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News Analysis Hardware Digital foundry Saw the Xbox Series S in March, (Analysis Video)

pyrocro

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I think people should have a greater appreciation that most of these things are settled months and years in advance after seeing this.


EDIT: I guess a MOD updated the title to series S thank you whoever you are. (y)
 
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It's probably not a good sign that even our OPs can't tell the difference. 😋

So, all those educated guesses and theory videos were hints all along? Lol. This is a good thing to keep in mind for the future -- they have access to stuff way before we do, so when they make a 'guess'...
 

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ethomaz

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Of course they knew... they even made a video saying how developers were dissatisfaction with the machine.
 
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Jtibh

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You mean df was paid and sponsored by microsoft all along?
You dont say captian obvious.
Sure they knew. But sony is not giving a shit about them knowing they are xbox operatives.

Why you think they are so pissed at sony not releasing any info to them
 

ethomaz

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THAT video was right after E3 2019, when microsoft only mentioned xbox series X, and they presumed there is no second machine
You are crossing trolling territory reaching plain lying. Does that give you some kind of satisfaction?
They made a video in Feb 2020 even with a table with "suppose" S with 4TFs lol
They are telling you now... it was not a supposition... it was a real machine they couldn't talk about.

Do you want to take another L? The last one was not enough?
 
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They made a video in Feb 2020 even with a table with "suppose" S with 4TFs lol
They are telling you now... it was not a supposition... it was a real machine they couldn't talk about.

Do you want to take another L? The last one was not enough?

Did you watch this video? March 2020 is when they visited and got confirmation. Now this might be tough for you, but February is actually BEFORE March. I know this is a lot to take in, maybe take a few days off to think over it?

Do you want to take another L? The last one was not enough?
 

ethomaz

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Did you watch this video? March 2020 is when they visited and got confirmation. Now this might be tough for you, but February is actually BEFORE March. I know this is a lot to take in, maybe take a few days off to think over it?

Do you want to take another L? The last one was not enough?
February 29th... just go find the video.
 
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Punished Miku

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You mean df was paid and sponsored by microsoft all along?
You dont say captian obvious.
Sure they knew. But sony is not giving a shit about them knowing they are xbox operatives.

Why you think they are so pissed at sony not releasing any info to them
Do you have any evidence DF was paid by Microsoft?

This looks similar to what any other journalist does at E3 every year when they get invited to closed door previews, and then release the information when the company allows it.
 

onQ123

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It's probably not a good sign that even our OPs can't tell the difference. 😋

So, all those educated guesses and theory videos were hints all along? Lol. This is a good thing to keep in mind for the future -- they have access to stuff way before we do, so when they make a 'guess'...


I think they have also seen games running on Xbox Series X & that is the reason them & others have been pushing for the old consoles to be dropped.
 

Jtibh

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Do you have any evidence DF was paid by Microsoft?

This looks similar to what any other journalist does at E3 every year when they get invited to closed door previews, and then release the information when the company allows it.
You mean the last 3 years of xbox ass licking is not enough?
Do you want me to go through each of their videos to make a list with time stamps to point out the obvoius?
I charge by the hour btw
 

Punished Miku

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You mean the last 3 years of xbox ass licking is not enough?
Do you want me to go through each of their videos to make a list with time stamps to point out the obvoius?
I charge by the hour btw

So you have no evidence at all that they were paid. You just don't like their opinions?

I don't like to ask people to do tons of work for forum arguments. Feel free to make some time stamp lists if you want. I'll check it out. I can't imagine what they would have said that made you so mad though. They're literally some of the only journalists that even understand anything about game development.
 
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They made a video in Feb 2020 even with a table with "suppose" S with 4TFs lol
We had this conversation in the troll "xbox - ps5 analysis" thread the other day, and I asked for the video.
Turned out it was a video recorded with general comments right after E32019, when their knowledge was way more limited.
They THOUGHT that there cannot be raytracing on nextgen consoles, and they THOUGHT there is no second machine, and were laughing about that.
I am sure you know this very well, we had this conversation the other day!

but here is the link from the video (June 11 2019 E3) for those who -just like me two days ago- don't know what are you referring to:

First they laughed about h/w assisted ray tracing, then they laughed about series s.
At 17:54 they say "this year (E3) it was down to a singular (console). I have spoken to developers across the year (E32018 "plural"announcement - E32019 "singular xbox announcement") and there has always been a degree of suspicion and worry. If we look back at console generations, the lowest spec'd machine was pain in the butt"

Using these words spoken so long ago as general comments of E3 presentation, and when they clearly didn't have a clue, and transforming them to
"Of course they knew... they even made a video saying how developers were dissatisfaction with the machine."
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/digi...n-march-analysis-video.1565347/post-260081475
well, that's not a good practice. actually, that's a very bad practice.
So tell me, what kind of enjoyment do you get out of that?
 

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We had this conversation in the troll "xbox - ps5 analysis" thread the other day, and I asked for the video.
Turned out it was a video recorded with general comments right after E32019, when their knowledge was way more limited.
They THOUGHT that there cannot be raytracing on nextgen consoles, and they THOUGHT there is no second machine, and were laughing about that.
I am sure you know this very well, we had this conversation the other day!

but here is the link from the video (June 11 2019 E3) for those who -just like me two days ago- don't know what are you referring to:

First they laughed about h/w assisted ray tracing, then they laughed about series s.
At 17:54 they say "this year (E3) it was down to a singular (console). I have spoken to developers across the year (E32018 "plural"announcement - E32019 "singular xbox announcement") and there has always been a degree of suspicion and worry. If we look back at console generations, the lowest spec'd machine was pain in the butt"

Using these words spoken so long ago as general comments of E3 presentation, and when they clearly didn't have a clue, and transforming them to
"Of course they knew... they even made a video saying how developers were dissatisfaction with the machine."
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/digi...n-march-analysis-video.1565347/post-260081475
well, that's not a good practice. actually, that's a very bad practice.
So tell me, what kind of enjoyment do you get out of that?

Such MS Shilling. So much SonyGAF not manipulating at all. Wow.
 

prinz_valium

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You mean df was paid and sponsored by microsoft all along?
You dont say captian obvious.
Sure they knew. But sony is not giving a shit about them knowing they are xbox operatives.

Why you think they are so pissed at sony not releasing any info to them
Just like they called the PS5 36CUS specs a year ago. They just know better than fanboys on the internet
 

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I'm a platform agnostic guy, who is not a fanboy of any company, but it's no secret that my current opinion is that MS sucks right now (well since 2010 to be honest...) , but I don't understand where the posters come from who say DF are biased. I never got this impression. In fact the other day I just watched their "look back" videos about the PS4 and X1 reveals and they praised Sony while they destroyed MS. They are quite fair I think, though Alex is a pc fanboy, but his Horizon 2 video was pretty good. I don't know, I really like their work, especially John's 🤷‍♂️
 

Jtibh

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So you have no evidence at all that they were paid. You just don't like their opinions?

I don't like to ask people to do tons of work for forum arguments. Feel free to make some time stamp lists if you want. I'll check it out. I can't imagine what they would have said that made you so mad though. They're literally some of the only journalists that even understand anything about game development.
I think you ment to say nxgamer understands game development but i forgive you.

Look as a business owner myself and doing marketing and stuff for myself plus forming relationships i see what i see.

Show you proof haha you want me to go through their books?

I am happy to give you time stamps AND the timestamp where they bitch about sony not giving them a bone.

But i charge by the hour and i aint cheap
 

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You mean df was paid and sponsored by microsoft all along?
You dont say captian obvious.

Then you should have no problem presenting the evidence that persuaded you.
Let's see it then.

Sure they knew. But sony is not giving a shit about them knowing they are xbox operatives.

Citation is needed to back up this statement.

Why you think they are so pissed at sony not releasing any info to them

I can think of prosaic reasons, you know, like them requiring and appreciating factual info in order to do their job.
I know.
It's so trivial.

It's certainly not nearly as entertaining and exciting as cooking up a shady story for which no evince will likely ever be provided, because in Dark La La Land, who needs evidence, right?
 
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Jtibh

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Then you should have no problem presenting the evidence that persuaded you.
Let's see it then.



Citation is needed to back up this statement.



I can think of prosaic reasons, you know, like them requiring and appreciating factual info in order to do their job.
I know.
It's so trivial.

It's certainly not nearly as entertaining and exciting as cooking up a shady story for which no evince will likely ever be provided, because in Dark La La Land, who needs evidence, right?
I see you are from B universe. Time to come down to A universe maybe then u get it