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Digital Foundry: Redfall Xbox Series X/S - DF Tech Review - Big Issues And Unfulfilled Potential
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Lucifers Beard
Member
His attitude towards the whole thing is great and he’s spot on. Drop the game, move on and let it be a lesson.
MacReady13
Member
The 30 fps for series x and hiding it from us is really poor in my opinion. He admitted it but why do it in the 1st place?
Topher
Gold Member
I'm about 5 hours in. Like I said in the other thread, I think there is a decent game here underneath all the issues. Needed a few more weeks in the oven.
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Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
"It's not the Xbox hardware booehoee" They would never say that if it was a PS5 game. In fact, they would question the PS5 hardware.
How are people getting the impression John went easy on them? He spent soo much time showing the abysmal texture issues and joked around with the rubbish AI, if it's about the comment "It's not the Xbox hardwares fault" then boo hoo, he's right, loading games from an SSD should NOT take that long to stream in a texture, the game feels like it's capped at 5400rpm hard drive speed.
Lysandros
Member
That is why he awards XSX victories left and right due to VRR and posted his 'very objective' comparison list which show how XSX has won much more comparisons against PS5? He often sings the praise of XSX hardware and even here is quite gentle even defensive about it and that is fine. All this to say that his behaviour doesn't seem to support "the Xbox hate" at all.
Physiognomonics
Member
I actually like this. We are playing a videogame, and if the game is already bad they should clearly not put time and money on cutscenes.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The real persecution complex was the friends we made along the way.
No, seriously, half the stuff about "John doesn't hold back criticizing PS5" is just straight up tales out of some of you guys' butts here. Just look up his Forspoken feature, a game that drops as low as 20 FPS and 720p in DRS. Point out to me in the feature where he cited the PS5 hardware as being the issue there.
Senua
Member
How embarrassing
jonnyp
Member
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
No it’s true. Sure this whole shitshow of a game has mostly nothing to do with these consoles, but DF loves to defend the 12TF narrative to this day and still question the PS5 hardware in comparisons.
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01011001
Banned
what a fucking dumb ass ignorant and/or intellectually dishonest post you made there... of course expected, but still...
if VRR helps to make a game more playable he points it out... SHOCKER, it's almost like it's his job. and your lamppost* brain might shortcircut from hearing this, but, Elden Ring plays better on Series X if you have a good TV
Lysandros
live reaction to the previous statement:
and he posted said list because people like you, called him a Sony fanboy that only talks about the positives of PlayStation and the negatives of Xbox, due to old NeoGaf posts he made.
it's lampposts like you that not only made him leave Neogaf, but also made Digital Foundry stop comparing console versions too in depth anymore aside from obvious differences.
because as soon as they do show interesting details the fuckface brigade from the "winning" system come along and use it to console war in their comments and on twitter, completely failing to understand that version differences can simply be oversights by the developers.
and as soon as they give specific resolution numbers people shit on them when another channel posts different numbers, failing to understand, with their little lamppost brains, that counting arbitrary resolutions is never exact, and especially not if the resolution is dynamic, and dynamic resolutions don't always follow logical patterns, so you can't really hunt for lowest and highest numbers if the engine has a setup where the GPU is rarely the bottlekneck and so framedrops dont coincide with resolution drops.
so nowadays they simply say "typical resolution" or "could be dynamic" in every test so that lampposts like you can't yell at them if they missed that the shittily coded game they tested drops resolution randomly due to a broken scaling system.
*disclaimer, I used the word lamppost here, because I'm trying to be nice
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
for some reason I read that in the "LOOK ATH ALL THOSE THICKENS" kid video.
They do it for both..there becoming a Joke.
Its about not willfully distorting reality by wearing kids gloves. Shits gaslighting at this point.
SirKicksalot
Member
Unless their technical staff left they probably should have used CryEngine. They did some pretty smart stuff with Prey's open world and now they're streaming basic bitch textures for 20 seconds. Grim.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Prey had "open ended" game play, but most of it was connected by corridors, it didn't have anywhere near the kind of open world this game has. It was far more curated and bespoke in its creation and execution.
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akaFullmetal
Member
Woof, game needed to bake for a bit longer. The drop to 20 fps looking at fire or traversal stutters, texture loading, weird lighting artifacts, just bad. Ai is just broken! What were Microsoft expecting?
KURDISTAN YPG
Member
if you guys were developers.....based on specs, how much of downgrade would you need to do for xbox series S vs X,
Lysandros
Member
They are defending it even better than Microsoft i would say, unlike Microsoft they are not backtracking from their position.
Barakov
Gold Member
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
This is the result you get when your team 'works' from home. Enough with this shit, get back to work.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
I don't know, they in general have this "nice" attitude, which makes it really fucking boring to watch, so I no longer doing that and instead, reading
adamsapple
posts. I just need some edge, I will repost this as I believe more people know about the guy, the better, not just a technical analysis, but something really on point:
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Because there's some sort of texture loading bug.how is this even possible 12 teraflops against 4
kuncol02
Banned
It's your first time seeing how garbage texture streaming is in UE open world games?how is this even possible 12 teraflops against 4