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And with PS5, you get just a little bit more smoke and fire in the distanceWell if the top image was Xbox, We can happily agree that if you own an Xbox...You get more Birds!
Fire or birds, that’s the question…
And with PS5, you get just a little bit more smoke and fire in the distanceWell if the top image was Xbox, We can happily agree that if you own an Xbox...You get more Birds!
It's not matter about how much count for someone but how much are really perceivable for the most.Its subjective how much these visuals differences matter to people.
It's not matter about how much count for someone but how much are really perceivable for the most.
First one has better shadows, second one is sharper.
Another picture. Which is more aliased in the long lines?
PS5
Another picture. Which is more aliased in the long lines?
Why? You can't decide which one looks better without a label? A blind test is the best way to do it.I've labelled these because not labelling them is dumb.
Komachi from Twitter.
Edit:
We finally have RDNA2 die shot,
Maybe a new thread is needed for this.
Why? You can't decide which one looks better without a label? A blind test is the best way to do it.
Yeah I was curious and checked afterwards, but it's best without a label so people can talk about the differences between them without bias. If they are labelled someone might say X is better than Y just because it's their fave.No, i just want to know which is which.
Yeah I was curious and checked afterwards, but it's best without a label so people can talk about the differences between them without bias. If they are labelled someone might say X is better than Y just because it's their fave.
The blind people who wants to know or…what?I see your point, but its anoying for people who just want to know which console has the better looking version.
Multi console owners such as myselfThe blind people who wants to know or…what?
If you have to label them for your convenience, the difference can’t be big enough for it to matter in the endMulti console owners such as myself
If you have to label them for your convenience, the difference can’t be big enough for it to matter in the end
I think it was a fun experiment, I can’t tell them apart at all.
I don't know who started it, could be someone from reset.Ah ok.
But I don't ever remember Komachi saying the PS5 was vastly inferior to the XSX. I always thought the one who leaked it told us that.
Now I'm curious as to who started those claims.
Yup they still look the same to me. Just like the last picturesI can't care less. I just said ps5 can have better IQ in some shot even with less native pixels and I proved it. Never talked of abyssal difference. Find a single post by me about the superior version. Hardly I engage such conversation. I'm not Riky or Berndt.
On my phone zoomed they looked pretty much identical to me.Yeah I was curious and checked afterwards, but it's best without a label so people can talk about the differences between them without bias. If they are labelled someone might say X is better than Y just because it's their fave.
I don't know who started it, could be someone from reset.
But as to whom made it well known, I'll say.
blueisviolet -> colteastwood -> Digital Foundy
Yea, I still think it was tests related to backwards compatibility.Maybe but with Digital Foundry it seems like they didn't really understand what they were looking at. Blueisviolent and colt were definitely going full fanboy with it though.
1440p to 4k is a massive difference. The problem is that these games run at varying resolutions so it can be hard to perceive a drop from say 1800p to 1620p.Finally got a 4k TV now and… boy these small res differences can impossibly be noticeable to anyone.
I can’t tell 1440p from 4k.
Maybe I just need glasses, I’m getting old.
Finally got a 4k TV now and… boy these small res differences can impossibly be noticeable to anyone.
I can’t tell 1440p from 4k.
Maybe I just need glasses, I’m getting old.
I think the screen size and viewing distance matters too, I got a 55 inch one and I’m sitting about 3 meters away. I could probably tell the difference on a 65 inch TV. Its possible I haven’t viewed enough 4k content as well, I’ve mostly been playing and as you say, DRS makes it harder to get that A/B comparison.1440p to 4k is a massive difference. The problem is that these games run at varying resolutions so it can be hard to perceive a drop from say 1800p to 1620p.
I booted up my PS3 to look at the XMB just to get a prime example of a 1080p image. It simply looks really good as well. Maybe it’s just because I went from a old 2009 42 inch LCD-TV without HDR to an 55 inch LG C8. The biggest difference so far that I really noticed are that the blacks really are pitch black and that all colours are popping.I'm with you. Also feeling old. I could barely tell when the Series X dashboard updated to 4k.
4k is not doing much for me.
that texture filtering is nothing that can change performance probably will get fixed later like in Dirt 5. i was talking about the GPU gulf. Is there and is showing in pixel countConsidered in some shots IQ seems even better on ps5 who care? Still unbelievable see the same side continue to deny to see any difference when even El Analist noticed it. At least some intellectual honesty would be appreciable. Again can someone post a screenshot where XSX higher resolution is clearly evident? There are tons of sources. I just read excuse but not a factual single evidence of the superior 17% resolution in action.
Try playing a PC game in 4k then change to 1440p. It will look like you almost zoomed in. Pixels become twice as large.I think the screen size and viewing distance matters too, I got a 55 inch one and I’m sitting about 3 meters away. I could probably tell the difference on a 65 inch TV. Its possible I haven’t viewed enough 4k content as well, I’ve mostly been playing and as you say, DRS makes it harder to get that A/B comparison.
stop it ....is your mind generation bs because it want it to happenI can't care less. I just said ps5 can have better IQ in some shot even with less native pixels and I proved it. Never talked of abyssal difference. Find a single post by me about the superior version. Hardly I engage such conversation. I'm not Riky or Berndt.
There is no huge difference for anyone who bought a series x for multiplats and a PS5 for the exclusives. That was a very popular sentiment prelaunch. Game to game the differences are very small either way. If you want access to every single game that releases, then yes, by all means buy both. But if you can do without the exclusives from either company they are both strong consoles and it comes down to a matter of which exclusives you prefer. You’re not going to be deprived of anything.. Especially when PS gets the VRR update.in this game
the PS5 run tall 17% lower res
at the same fps
there is the gulf
Trees on the left look shaper along with the railing looking clearer (more full) in the second pic, shadows near the No Smoking thing look better in the first pic to me.Yup they still look the same to me. Just like the last pictures
On my phone zoomed they looked pretty much identical to me.
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Looking at the tower in the middle they both look equally shitty.
I'm with you. Also feeling old. I could barely tell when the Series X dashboard updated to 4k.
4k is not doing much for me.
This reminds me of Doom Eternal 120fps modes on PS5 and Series X. I have it for both systems and can’t see the difference between 1580p vs 1800p on my TV. Yet DF told me PS5 is noticeably softer.I posted the 300% zoom of the tower you mentioned looking a tiny bit better on Xbox. Don't think any of the differences aside from the big stutters would be noticable while playing though.
Dusk Golem, Colbert, Colt Eastwood, DukeBlueBalls, Timdog, Klobrie, and a bunch of other Xbox Era Discord members. Basically all the github truthers. They didnt get a hold of the github files Komachi pulled from until around november or December of 2019, but once that released, they were sure the PS5 was just 9 tflops and upped from 8 tflops in response to the XSX's 12 tflops rumors. They were sure that it would never hit 2.0 ghz in a console so they assumed the PS5 was actually an 8 tflops machine that would make xsx 50% more powerful. A lot of those guys are back on gaf now under different names. I can tell from the posting style.Ah ok.
But I don't ever remember Komachi saying the PS5 was vastly inferior to the XSX. I always thought the one who leaked it told us that.
Now I'm curious as to who started those claims.
Erm, my response has nothing to do with XSS. It was in response to "4K is not doing much for me". As in, yeah, you're right even John from DF thinks so too. As he says "Native 4K doesn't matter and isn't worth chasing", which I agree.Most XSS games look great on a 1080p set
1440p with TAA is fine for next gen consoles. If I want 4k I can always get a PC.Erm, my response has nothing to do with XSS. It was in response to "4K is not doing much for me". As in, yeah, you're right even John from DF thinks so too. As he says "Native 4K doesn't matter and isn't worth chasing", which I agree.
Ah ok.
But I don't ever remember Komachi saying the PS5 was vastly inferior to the XSX. I always thought the one who leaked it told us that.
Now I'm curious as to who started those claims.
Quoting myself because couldnt insert quotes in edit mode.Dusk Golem, Colbert, Colt Eastwood, DukeBlueBalls, Timdog, Klobrie, and a bunch of other Xbox Era Discord members. Basically all the github truthers. They didnt get a hold of the github files Komachi pulled from until around november or December of 2019, but once that released, they were sure the PS5 was just 9 tflops and upped from 8 tflops in response to the XSX's 12 tflops rumors. They were sure that it would never hit 2.0 ghz in a console so they assumed the PS5 was actually an 8 tflops machine that would make xsx 50% more powerful. A lot of those guys are back on gaf now under different names. I can tell from the posting style.
Gaf had its own share of github truthers, but most of them either self banned or were banned for spouting the 9 tflops nonsense. Too lazy to go back and pull up posts but most of those guys are gone so whats the point.
komachi and Apisak are just data miners. They have no allegiance.
What's clear is that there no 9 tflops clocks downgrade. No variable clocks bs. Cerny was right and if there is a downgrade in clockspeeds its only a couple of percent at best seeing as how it doesnt seem to matter that much. PS5 can go up to 230 Watts which suggests there is no reason to expect a massive downgrade in clockspeeds. The ingame results speak for themselves. These guys based everything on some outdated tests and ended up looking like idiots. I remember posting time and time again that the 1.8 ghz and 2.0 ghz clocks suggested that these consoles probably werent RDNA 1.0, but nope. They were convinced the PS5 had no ray tracing because the ray tracing column was empty lol.
I'm hearing that it's larger than what people expect.
I don't have that info. I was told that in realworld performance, it's a bigger gap than the theoretical performance (12T vs. 10T). I wasn't given any other details other than that, so take it with a grain of salt.
And yea, I think that was Far Cry that I saw. Thanks for clearing this up.
Sorry I must of got confused by the first 4 words being "The Xbox series S"Erm, my response has nothing to do with XSS. It was in response to "4K is not doing much for me". As in, yeah, you're right even John from DF thinks so too. As he says "Native 4K doesn't matter and isn't worth chasing", which I agree.
Based.John cares about 60fps 60fps 60fps 60fps 60fps 60fps 60fps 60fps
What was the AC Valhalla accurate statement?Quoting myself because couldnt insert quotes in edit mode.
This guy below was easily the worst offender of perpetuating the myth of the PS5 being vastly inferior.
I had these in my bookmarks because even then I knew this guy was a bullshitter.
The dude was a big bullshitter, smh.Quoting myself because couldnt insert quotes in edit mode.
This guy below was easily the worst offender of perpetuating the myth of the PS5 being vastly inferior.
I had these in my bookmarks because even then I knew this guy was a bullshitter.
He backpeddled on that one and suggested that Far Cry 6 would not be 60 fps on the PS5, only on XSX. Which was one of the rumors at the time.What was the AC Valhalla accurate statement?
Valhalla ended up performing better on the PS5.
This is after the patch which made the PS5 version worse and improved the Xbox version. It's also still a higher res on PS5.
This is after the patch which made the PS5 version worse and improved the Xbox version. It's also still a higher res on PS5.
The guys comment was from 2020 before the consoles came out. He was full of shit.That's the last metrics we have, framerate is better on Xbox with less torn frames.
This is interesting, I didn't know it has been patched and now ran better on Xbox. Do you have a link?
He doesn't care as long as the image quality holds up well by means of AI upscaling/reconstruction/checkerboard rendering and looks closer to native 4K.Sorry I must of got confused by the first 4 words being "The Xbox series S"
John of course doesn't care about 4k. John cares about 60fps 60fps 60fps 60fps 60fps 60fps 60fps 60fps
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SlimySnake haha I bet you the ps5 is larger than what people expected
Launch (DF)This is interesting, I didn't know it has been patched and now ran better on Xbox. Do you have a link?
Quoting myself because couldnt insert quotes in edit mode.
This guy below was easily the worst offender of perpetuating the myth of the PS5 being vastly inferior.
I had these in my bookmarks because even then I knew this guy was a bullshitter.