Spaceman292
Banned
Dear Cliff,
Lawbreakers sucked lmao.
Sincerely Lawyer
xxx
Lawbreakers sucked lmao.
Sincerely Lawyer
xxx
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Cliff Bleszinski: "Just got a text from my lawyer about... LawBreakers. Stay tuned."
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Nobody cared, nobody cares, Biffy.
Spaceman292
Banned
It was all surface. No one actually tried it out because it just looked kind of unappealing. No memorable characters and no style. Just greyness. They just needed some cool artists and they would have been alright. It also didn't help that Charisma Vacuum Cliffy on the face of the marteting.
Overwatch had adorable Pixar characters with big asses, it exploded.
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Punished Miku
Gold Member
I dont get why people are so obsessed with trashing this guy. He's trying to make games. Oh no ...
He probably got a call from his lawyer because someone want to use the name "Lawbreakers" as a brand for toilets.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
It was a "bad game" in the sense that the market no longer wants arena shooters. It failed in the same way a great version of Pong or a great Block Breaker would in 1997.
Marketing, imo, had nothing to do with its failure. It failed because 5,000 people played it on launch day and only 10% of those 5,000 people enjoyed it enough to play it two weeks later.
Someone finally Got a Hold of his Coke Dealer.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
He left Microsoft to be able to feed his and his Co workers families and being able to live.
How did that work out?
indigo-cyclops
Member
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CuteFaceJay
Member
I suggest he doesn't bankroll a lawyer to begin with then that way his Gears money might last a little longer 
He wasn't even at MS, he was at Epic games.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Yeah. It’s probably a Tweet taken out of context. My fav games of his are Jazz and Gears. I also liked Jazz as a kid. Bucky and Jazz should be in a game together.
bluecowboys
Banned
Everyone is allowed to make games that fail.
Just learn from it and do better next time.
Just learn from it and do better next time.
Shadowstar39
Member
Is anyone else blocked from his Twitter? How does someone block someone they don't know, don't you need to physically hit block or does he do an "approved group" that gets to see his tweets? Is that how Shitter works now? If so that's horrible as it's elitist and creates a virtual hugbox.
Only approved people that don't disagree with me and fawn me may see my tweets.... Gross. Did Elon start this shit? Why, I get Twitter as a whole was Banning people but this is just as bad, as people doing shit won't get pushback at all.
Regardless. Cliffy b has always been an insufferable miserable elitist snobby cu$t. What happened to talented humble or at least thick skinned western devs like John Carmack, Romero, Warren specter, Ken Levine, D. Jaffe, Sid Meier, Will Write, Peter Moleauneaux, etc.....
Jaffe's similar style game Drawn to Death bombed (it was an arena shooter f2p game that just didn't hit) you don't see him blocking everyone and insulting the fans.
Only approved people that don't disagree with me and fawn me may see my tweets.... Gross. Did Elon start this shit? Why, I get Twitter as a whole was Banning people but this is just as bad, as people doing shit won't get pushback at all.
Regardless. Cliffy b has always been an insufferable miserable elitist snobby cu$t. What happened to talented humble or at least thick skinned western devs like John Carmack, Romero, Warren specter, Ken Levine, D. Jaffe, Sid Meier, Will Write, Peter Moleauneaux, etc.....
Jaffe's similar style game Drawn to Death bombed (it was an arena shooter f2p game that just didn't hit) you don't see him blocking everyone and insulting the fans.
Nydius
Member
Cliff comes across as a guy who is salty af that no one fell for his trend chasing crap games. Remember what he did after Lawbreakers shit the bed? He tried to copy/paste Fortnite BR with his own “I’m so edgy” half-baked cartoony BR game, Radical Heights. Emphasis on copy/paste because it was pushed out in 5 months with stock engine assets and most of the buildings were nothing but gray boxes, inside and out.
He captured lightning in a bottle with Gears. Everything he’s done since has exposed him as a mediocre talent in game dev. Then he takes out his frustration by trashing the very people he wants to buy his games.
Edit: I just scrolled through the responses to his Tweet and buried among them are his own posts including one where he says “Don’t be a dick please.” ROFL, that’s fucking rich… he wants to be in the public space, but only if people praise him, while he, himself, has repeatedly been a massive dick toward gamers (and especially Xbox gamers), since leaving Epic.
He captured lightning in a bottle with Gears. Everything he’s done since has exposed him as a mediocre talent in game dev. Then he takes out his frustration by trashing the very people he wants to buy his games.
Edit: I just scrolled through the responses to his Tweet and buried among them are his own posts including one where he says “Don’t be a dick please.” ROFL, that’s fucking rich… he wants to be in the public space, but only if people praise him, while he, himself, has repeatedly been a massive dick toward gamers (and especially Xbox gamers), since leaving Epic.
If it had been that, I might have stuck with it. But it was a weird mashup of UT paced arena shooter with fixed character hero shooter designs. It tried to blend two genres and did neither particularly well.
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FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
Damn beaten to it.
Drizzlehell
Banned
He seems so extremely out of touch, lol.
But I enjoyed LawBreakers. Didn't care about the hero shooter crap but it was promising as a return to form for arena shooters, and that's what I was psyched about the most. Too bad that it ate shit and died.
But I enjoyed LawBreakers. Didn't care about the hero shooter crap but it was promising as a return to form for arena shooters, and that's what I was psyched about the most. Too bad that it ate shit and died.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
bentanchorbolt
Banned
CliffyB is a weird dude. Like I am grateful for all he did for gaming and what have you, but he grew up and made some bad choices and he can't seem to let it go. Dude should check his ego and go work at an established studio and lend his skills to the industry or just full on retire.
Wildebeest
Member
I never gloated about the failure of Lawbreakers. I liked the people making it and the concept of the game.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Very excited about a cliff b game it’s been a while, gears of war is a classic and you can improve on that.
dorkimoe
Member
This actually drives me nuts about gamers. Games come out, suck, flop then years later everyone wants a remaster or remake or sequel Yet nobody bought the first one
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I remember hearing him in an interview say "It's like Overwatch with a much higher skill ceiling. So one player can enter a room with 4 enemies and kill them all. In Overwatch that's much harder to do."
That, imo, killed the game. When 90% of your players are feeder fish in an aquarium, they find a way to leave the aquarium.
That, imo, killed the game. When 90% of your players are feeder fish in an aquarium, they find a way to leave the aquarium.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Well maybe don't act like a hivemind then!
You act like the general grouping of "gamers" seems specifically referential to you.
Seems like you only want the collective invoked when it suits. Hmmm....
hemo memo
Gold Member
Esca
Member
Iirc back then with this game came out people were getting tired of his big mouth. I heard the game was actually good when it came out iirc as well.
I use to really like cliffy in the UT days. He would put out lots of tips for making your own levels and he would pick good maps the community made. The gears fame went to his head
I use to really like cliffy in the UT days. He would put out lots of tips for making your own levels and he would pick good maps the community made. The gears fame went to his head
Nydius
Member
I haven't heard a single person talk about LawBreakers in several years, let alone supposedly ask for a remaster or a remake. The only reason it's being talked about now is because CliffyB posted a vague click-baity tweet. The notion that there's suddenly "a lot of interest" in a middling game that couldn't compete with its contemporaries and died nearly 5 years ago is laughable at best.
Battleborn had a stronger playerbase, ffs.
Pointing this out isn't reveling in the death of the game or hoping it fails, but simply stating facts. It had a niche audience and arena shooters no longer hold the sway they once did -- which is also evident in the sharp drop off of Halo Infinite's multiplayer community despite being free to play. Edit: Forgot about Splitgate, which came out, burned brightly for a short bit, and then fell off as well. Arena shooters just don't seem to be what people want anymore.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Where’s the support coming from? I haven’t seen Lawbreakers mentioned anywhere.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I saw the leaked text:
Dear Mr. Bleszinski,
We are suing you for selling Lawbreakers. It is giving lawyers a bad name.
Dear Mr. Bleszinski,
We are suing you for selling Lawbreakers. It is giving lawyers a bad name.
nightmare-slain
Member
I don't know who he is or what this is. Good for him I guess. I think?
AtomicStarving
Member
LegendOfKage
Member
You should play Splitgate. It's the best free to play arena shooter I've played in years. Even though development has stopped and they're working on a followup, it has a lot of features and content, and the developers left it in a pretty good place.
No, that was going on long before Musk. It's people who can't stand being disagreed with, and who think everyone who doesn't share their worldview is a bad person. They all started adding themselves to block lists, where if one of them on the list blocks someone, everyone on the entire list auto blocks them as well.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If I was his lawyer, I'd be concerned too.
Wouldn't your law office be nervous if their legal fees to trademark the name costs more than the total revenue Lawbreakers made?
They're probably on a 15 year payment plan and the last few installments were late.
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