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Cliff Bleszinski: "Just got a text from my lawyer about... LawBreakers. Stay tuned."
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SkylineRKR
Member
He seems to be very butthurt all the time. You're as relevant as your last project.
Portugeezer
Member
Nobody:
Cliff: "lawbreakers has a ton of support now"
Cliff: "lawbreakers has a ton of support now"
ToTTenTranz
Banned
Before having people "rooting for a game to fail" they'd need to know it existed and care about it.
Which AFAIK they didn't.
Which AFAIK they didn't.
ZehDon
Gold Member
"It confuses the hell out of me how people were rooting for the game to fail and when it did now there's a ton of support for it."
I've never seen, read, or heard anyone say anything about Lawbreakers. Not people "rooting for the game to fail", not expressing a "ton of support" - literally nothing about this game. Ever. If Cliffy thinks he made some kind of cult classic, with a hardcore fan base itching for its return, he's really misreading the room. Maybe he can "Morbius" the shit out of it and re-launch it so it can fail again.
I've never seen, read, or heard anyone say anything about Lawbreakers. Not people "rooting for the game to fail", not expressing a "ton of support" - literally nothing about this game. Ever. If Cliffy thinks he made some kind of cult classic, with a hardcore fan base itching for its return, he's really misreading the room. Maybe he can "Morbius" the shit out of it and re-launch it so it can fail again.
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TheGodfather07
Member
Your game sucked. Get over it!
ozz ex machina
Member
I was in the lawbreakers beta/alpha early on. It felt like absolute shit for a good while. Then one of the later tests they had fixed everything. It felt amazing, was fun to play, somewhat balanced etc. I really thought it would be a success. But everyone was just going "waaah soooo generic" - in an age when there was like no fucking arena shooters.
It was shocking how poor the numbers were. I've played a lot of shooters and understand arena shooters etc. That was not a bad game. I guess the marketing was bad?
It was shocking how poor the numbers were. I've played a lot of shooters and understand arena shooters etc. That was not a bad game. I guess the marketing was bad?
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Hobbygaming
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SCB3
Member
It came out at a similar time to Overwatch's peak success, it was completely overshadowed as it looked really simialr
MMaRsu
Banned
It was never an Overwatch clone.. Thats Battleborn
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I never played it, but I thought it looked pretty good. I know people don't like Cliffy B, but it seemed (seems) weird how gamers have the energy to continue sneering and pouring scorn on things.
Goalus
Member
Even though I will forever highly respect him for creating the GOAT game and universe, I cannot forget that Lawbreakers was not on Xbox.
That was a heinous stab in the back, and I don't think I am the only one who feels that way. In a sense, Lawbreakers' failure was an invocation of justice by the universe itself.
That was a heinous stab in the back, and I don't think I am the only one who feels that way. In a sense, Lawbreakers' failure was an invocation of justice by the universe itself.
Hobbygaming
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He should've focused on a true SP game with good shooting mechanics like he did with Gears. Maybe it would've been successful
Bragr
Banned
I also liked it, and I also didn't understand the criticism against it.
People are still complaining about how it was similar to this and that, or how it ripped off this or that, but I can't really see those arguments. I thought the gravity part of it made it feel different.
Cliffy B did the game a huge disservice by how he was hyping it up, it made the game feel snobby in a way, that it was forced on you as a "fan-favorite shooter" because was making it. Before you even tried it you were supposed to like it.
And some of the jumping and flying around likely put a good chunk of the audience off, as frankly, the casual masses want straightforward stuff.
ozz ex machina
Member
Yeah. It was a well made shooter. I think the other issue was it came at a time where free to play was starting to pick up. If it launched F2P with better marketing it could have really done well imo.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Ha! It's the first thing I think of when it's mentioned!
cireza
Member
Really ? It looked quite fun actually. Had this Unreal Tournament vibe. It is simply that nobody cared because the genre is saturated. At least that's what I think.
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He's just tweeting, it's not that deep. When was the last time you heard anything from him?
crackajack
Member
The success of many games (especially shooters?) seems to be almost entirely luck based.
Killzone 2, Resistance 3, both Titanfalls, MAG, Hellgate London, Vanquish, Deus Ex (especially 3&4), later Unreal Tournaments, Quake Live&Champions, NOLF1&2, XIII
I guess most people would say those are at least competent works but they seem to not have impressed in sales, while other games I rate on the very same level were much more talked about.
Maybe some of them were considered sufficiently succesfull, some got successors but overall they were either too late or maybe even too early or some other unfortunate reason. I am actually surprised that now and then some games still manage to find success in genres that are highly saturated. And not only find a new small niche but actually shake things up on the top by adding or focusing or twisting just one tiny thing.
Patrick S.
Banned
I never played it myself, but I remember watching a Twitch stream of it and it looked really good. If it somehow comes back, I'll play it. CliffyB is a bit of a loudmouth, but I don't care about that. I'm playing the game, not the guy.
Revolutionary
Member
Every time I hear of Cliffy B, I think back to that time he said that Macklemore was the first rapper with something to say.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
That and his tweet about roger ebert are internet hall of famers.
Holammer
Member
I remember when CliffyB teased the game and a lot of my friends got interested, hoping for a tactical shooter in the Counterstrike/COD style.
Expectations were high, then they presented it as a futuristic arena shooter with gravity, movement mechanics, edgy design and gender neutral toilets.
Expectations were high, then they presented it as a futuristic arena shooter with gravity, movement mechanics, edgy design and gender neutral toilets.
TheGodfather07
Member
01011001
Banned
people didn't root for it to fail, people pointed out WHY IT WOULD fail... and people were correct.
1: not releasing on Xbox, when your core audience up until that point was on Xbox.
2: releasing it as a paid game instead of free 2 play, when the landscape was already extremely competitive and your game is multiplayer only.
3: boring artstyle with forgettable characters in a hero shooter.
4: suboptimal controller options in a super fast shooter.
1: not releasing on Xbox, when your core audience up until that point was on Xbox.
2: releasing it as a paid game instead of free 2 play, when the landscape was already extremely competitive and your game is multiplayer only.
3: boring artstyle with forgettable characters in a hero shooter.
4: suboptimal controller options in a super fast shooter.
abacab driver
Banned
Yikes.
Johnny Concrete
Member
Lawyers often talk about lawbreakers.
What’s the big deal?
What’s the big deal?
