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Bond Producer on Craig’s Replacement: “ I don’t think a woman should play James Bond”

HoodWinked

Member
My brain feels like it's melting. The fact that this is even brought up is the tragedy. Why is it that the most absurd stuff is what is fixated on.

I don't think we should play in traffic.
I don't think Bond should be a woman.
 

voidenberg

Member
I think they should. Not because it would be good but because it would be hilarious to watch the trainwreck.

The truth is men want to be Bond. Women want to get fucked by Bond. James Bond is a male power fantasy.
 
He's the same age Craig was when he started. And if they stick to the "every two years" tradition instead of taking such long breaks like they did with Craig, he probably wouldn't be 53 when they end his run.
Huh, I didn't know that Craig was 38 when Casino released (although Cavill will be more like 41 or even 42 when the next one releases, as they aren't anywhere near ready to start filming). I still think that Cavill is older and more famous than what they want, though.
 

Croga

Member
I can see it now...

Bad Guy: "Hello Mr. Bond"
...
They/Them/Whatever Bond: "Did you just mis-gender me? How dare you!"

Yeah this kind of shit can fuck right off.
 

jason10mm

Member
Congrats, you're the only person who doesn't get that Bond is supposed to be a misogynist.
But Bond ISN'T a misogynist. He LOVES women, perhaps a bit too much :p

Bond was derived from the 40's and 50's experiences of Fleming. There would have been precious few female commandos or spies back then. There are STILL precious few even now. So a lack of lady 00s or archvillians really shouldn't stump anyone.

But Fleming wrote competent women whose only flaw as falling for Bond. Just like a major flaw of Bond, and one that gets exploited over and over, is him falling for a woman he shouldn't. Thats character, not misogyny, unless you think that men and women should be sexless beings who only procreate through a hole in a sheet.

Bond lives in the moment. He knows he could be dead 15 minutes from now. That quality, paired with his training, ruthlessness and love of country, makes him a good spy/assassin and very appealing to the women he runs across in his line of work. This stuff shouldn't be mysterious or incomprehensible to anyone, provided you go out and do some dangerous work every now and then.

That he, nor (m)any of the women he meets are happily married is a bit of a troupe of the genre and is present across the entire thriller genre.
 
But Bond ISN'T a misogynist. He LOVES women, perhaps a bit too much :p

Bond was derived from the 40's and 50's experiences of Fleming. There would have been precious few female commandos or spies back then. There are STILL precious few even now. So a lack of lady 00s or archvillians really shouldn't stump anyone.

But Fleming wrote competent women whose only flaw as falling for Bond. Just like a major flaw of Bond, and one that gets exploited over and over, is him falling for a woman he shouldn't. Thats character, not misogyny, unless you think that men and women should be sexless beings who only procreate through a hole in a sheet.

Bond lives in the moment. He knows he could be dead 15 minutes from now. That quality, paired with his training, ruthlessness and love of country, makes him a good spy/assassin and very appealing to the women he runs across in his line of work. This stuff shouldn't be mysterious or incomprehensible to anyone, provided you go out and do some dangerous work every now and then.

That he, nor (m)any of the women he meets are happily married is a bit of a troupe of the genre and is present across the entire thriller genre.
Um, no, but have a nice day. I'm checking out of the thread now.
 

Hari Seldon

Gold Member
They should reboot Bond every 3 movies tbh. Just do continuous trilogies with a coherent plot and then start over after the trilogy ends. That way any woke shit that is teh current trend on twatter is quarantined to just a single trilogy.
 

jason10mm

Member
I hope they cast an unknown as Bond. I don't want someone who's already basically played a generic version of Bond like Cavill or Elba.
Why? Having earlier "Bond-like" roles is a good audition for Bond and helps sell it to the audience. Been that way for Moore, Brosnan, and Craig. Don't recall if Lazenby had much before and Dalton didn't either and those were the two "least" successful bonds. I'd say Cavell, Hiddleston, and Rob Stark have the best "preview" roles to be able to walk on set and hold their own.
 
Why? Having earlier "Bond-like" roles is a good audition for Bond and helps sell it to the audience. Been that way for Moore, Brosnan, and Craig. Don't recall if Lazenby had much before and Dalton didn't either and those were the two "least" successful bonds. I'd say Cavell, Hiddleston, and Rob Stark have the best "preview" roles to be able to walk on set and hold their own.

I don't have a rational reason why, other than "Eh I feel like I've already seen their take on the property".

I'd rather see a more unconventional take. I felt like Craig was a good choice for that reason.
 
I think it should be an origins style reboot and start with the need of creating the ‘00’ program. The first movie deals with this and finds potential recruits from all walks such as Navy officers, SAS soldiers etc. They get trained up in the ways of MI6’s new ultra spy initiative, license to kill at their discretion etc. Then the final 3rd of the film is some real life scenario where the one designated as 007 begins to be known as the best of the bunch. Something like that.
 

Flutta

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Why not just make another new copy franchise
Because that shit would bomb hard and they know it.

Just let a female be ”Jane Bond” or whatever, i dont care anymore tbh. We all know its coming, its basically inevitable at this point. Im just not gona watch it like i do with everything else that is woke infested 😂
 

Reallink

Member
There is no chance whatsoever Hollywood casts a straight white male. Will almost definitely be black or bisexual, but I'd entertain a slim possibility of Indian, phenotypically LatinX, or Asian. Certainly will not be nonbinary or tran though, cause that's a bridge too far to play to a wide audience.
 
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ntropy

Member
I thought Cavill was great in Man from UNCLE and MI Fallout, but he's 38 and I'd be surprised if they want to go that old. I mean, if he's 38 now he might be 41 by the time they start shooting his first movie, and just ask Daniel Craig how tough they are on the body.

I think they'll go for a relative unknown.
the reason Craig got the role over Cavill was because the latter was too young and not fit enough at the time
 
In the movies though?

I can't think of any

 
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