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[oxrock]

source: https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/20/entertainment/allison-mack-arrested/index.html

In summary, she was near the top of a pyramid cult/scheme called Nxivm (pronounced NEX-ium). Women would be branded on their pubic regions with the leader's initials, would be exploited for sex, etc. From other sources I've read that members would be kept as slaves, doing domestic chores as well as being blackmailed into having sex. Allison Mack was the co-creator of "The Source" which was a program within the organisation targeted toward actors.. The leader of this cult is a man named Keith Raniere and he was also arrested. There's obviously more in the article, so I suggest reading through it properly.

I don't normally make threads about things like this but I happened to be a fan of Smallville years ago and reading about this was just surprising. It's frightening how organisations like this exist and can get away with so much.

 

[Dunki]

wow thats really fucked up. I never thought she was such a person.

 

[Fbh]

Saw this on the news today in the morning.
I remember watching Smallville all the time back in like 2005. It's both sad and fucked up to see someone go from a promising career to basically owning and managing sex slaves

 

[Whataborman]

Tip of the iceberg.

It will be interesting to see if she starts naming names and implicating people to save her own skin. We already know that Hollywood has a sexual harassment issue, something tells me that quite a few well known people are worried right now.

 

[ickythingz]

Tip of the iceberg.

It will be interesting to see if she starts naming names and implicating people to save her own skin. We already know that Hollywood has a sexual harassment issue, something tells me that quite a few well known people are worried right now.

This.

She probably won't live long enough divulge much.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

The world has many monsters. Glad these ones are being taken down.

 

[rokkerkory]

what the heck geezus

 

[joshcryer]

TIL Allison Mack is married to Nikki Clyne, two of my favorite crushes in the early 2000s. What a clusterfuck. That guy seems to have brainwashed these women some fucking how and made a slave harem. It's extremely bizarre.

 

[Whataborman]

I do have to seriously wonder how many well known people are involved. It takes money to run this sort of operation and that money has to come from somewhere.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Very disturbing and yes, I agree this is probably just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[bucyou]

If not for scientology, this might of surprised me.

 

[Whataborman]

I think we'd be surprised by how much human trafficking goes on in the US today, and I'm talking about women being forced into prostitution either. Although that certainly happens a great deal. I'm talking about women and children being held against their will for the sole purpose of sex.

I used to think "Pizzagate" was a really far fetched conspiracy theory but then I read about people like Allison Mack and I'm not so sure anymore.

 

[Insane Metal]

Goddamn this is really fucked up. I heard about this months ago and I hoped this was just some hoax or misunderstanding... but nope... it's actually real. What in the flying fuck, man.

 

[oxrock]

If not for scientology, this might of surprised me.

I can't really think of any cult news without thinking of Scientology. I imagine that they're what every cult aspires to. That said, it seems like Nxivm got further than most.

 

[-Minsc-]

Hopefully this is one of the many steps for those involved, from the "goods" to the leaders, to be free of this mess.

 

[TGO]

Sounds like she was brainwash by this Raniere guy, I've seen loads of articles now and seen the videos which she seems smitten by him, and the video posted everywhere of her chasing the police when he was arrested (which she actually doesn't? I don't get that, getting clicks maybe? ) she looked confused.
Shame, seems like she was a victim too.

 

[Spheyr]

Sounds like she was brainwash by this Raniere guy, I've seen loads of articles now and seen the videos which she seems smitten by him, and the video posted everywhere of her chasing the police when he was arrested (which she actually doesn't? I don't get that, getting clicks maybe? ) she looked confused.
Shame, seems like she was a victim too.

Most sex offenders/abusers were victims themselves at one point or another. It's a vicious cycle.

 

[Geki-D]

Most sex offenders/abusers were victims themselves at one point or another. It's a vicious cycle.

This isn't exactly true, but either way it hardly applies because she isn't being accused of abusing/assaulting the people herself.

 

[Whataborman]

Sounds like she was brainwash by this Raniere guy,

Maybe, but it's just as likely that she's just a scumbag human being like Raniere

 

[kunonabi]

A damn shame. She was one of the best parts of the show during the first 8 seasons. Hopefully, she can do her time and get her mind right.

 

[ramuh]

Haha, man I would have never guessed.

 

[dispensergoinup]

somebody save me


on topic: i was reading a few articles about this and I guess Kristin Kreuk was also a founding member but then dipped out early?

 

[mckmas8808]

Haha, man I would have never guessed.

This is why judging a book by its cover can be so dangerous.

 

[Zog]

Sounds like she was brainwash by this Raniere guy, I've seen loads of articles now and seen the videos which she seems smitten by him, and the video posted everywhere of her chasing the police when he was arrested (which she actually doesn't? I don't get that, getting clicks maybe? ) she looked confused.
Shame, seems like she was a victim too.

Ah yes, blame the nearest man when a woman does something wrong.

https://pagesix.com/2018/04/23/alli...e-emma-watson-and-kelly-clarkson-to-sex-cult/

 

[EviLore]

This whole branding initials sex slave thing and the stupid-ass millennial startup name sounded familiar right away while reading the OP. Yeah, we had a thread about it last year when the NY Times covered the cult:

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/nyt-inside-a-secretive-group-where-women-are-branded.1450569/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/17/nyregion/nxivm-women-branded-albany.html

 

[Goro Daimon 71113]

Kristin Kreuk was a member!

 

[Fnord]

If the YouTube videos are still up, they're worth checking out just to see how screwed up this whole thing is. There's one with her "interviewing" the leader of the cult and it's super creepy.

 

[Whataborman]

Evidently her indictment has been unsealed and she's been accused of sex trafficking children.

Also, the Daily Mail is reporting that Raniere was having sex with girls as young as 12.

 

[joshcryer]

Ah yes, blame the nearest man when a woman does something wrong.

Yeah, that guy was just a normal alpha male chad who somehow was at fault for women being completely obedient to him and his MLM scheme, to the point where they recruited other women to be part of his harem and they were the ones at fault for being so enamored with him that they recruited other women.

These women don't just be a fucking sex slave without some serious fucked up shit happening. Apparently this all happened overnight with the top girls. He mixed an MLM scheme with a sex cult. It's beyond bizarre. Of course she and others are culpable. But to say she and the others weren't brainwashed is silly. A lot of Morman women do really shitty stuff at the behest of their leaders. It's the same thing here as far as I'm concerned.

She will probably serve a few years and people will cry because the guy responsible for the cult will serve hard time. Allison was arrested to roll on this guy.

Read the indictment here: https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/p...zation-and-actor-indicted-sex-trafficking-and

 

[Whataborman]

But to say she and the others weren't brainwashed is silly.

Why?

Why is it so hard to believe that she may be just as fucked up as Raniere is without being brainwashed?

 

[John Day]

Read a bit on the cult/company/entrepeneur thing this is. It’s crazy. I mean it has had connection with high profile people like the 14th Dalai Lama and such.

About “Chloe” being brainwashed to do this.... nah, she’s pretty much 2nd in command according to articles and info. Someone brainwashed wouldn’t reach that far.

There is all kinds of people in this world. Hopefully more info about all this is made clear in the future.

 

[BANGS]

I always thought she was kinda cute. I liked Lana way better tho...

 

[TGO]

Why?

Why is it so hard to believe that she may be just as fucked up as Raniere is without being brainwashed?

She may well be, but she has been within the group for a long time before cult started according to ex members.
She was groomed for years, she cut off ties after few years with Kristin Kreuk after she left the group who she was close to
She became Infatuated with him and probably did do all the stuff she is accused of and is guilty, no one is saying she isn't.
but she is definitely not the same person that joined the group over a decade ago

 

[Whataborman]

but she is definitely not the same person that joined the group over a decade ago

I'm not trying to be argumentative but we don't know that.

Plenty of people have a public persona that is completely different from their private one. Likewise, many of people hide parts of themselves from the public because those aspects of their personality wouldn't be socially (or legally in this case) acceptable. It's just as likely that she became so involved with the group because it allowed her to be herself. No brainwashing required.


In cases like these there's an automatic assumption that the woman was somehow the victim, no matter what she actually did. Words like "grooming" and "brainwashing" are used a lot to excuse the behavior when the fact is, she's evil no matter how you look at it.

 

[NahaNago]

Weird. I always thought she was just a tad bit crazy after watching the tv show.

 

[Grinchy]

I'm not trying to be argumentative but we don't know that.

Plenty of people have a public persona that is completely different from their private one. Likewise, many of people hide parts of themselves from the public because those aspects of their personality wouldn't be socially (or legally in this case) acceptable. It's just as likely that she became so involved with the group because it allowed her to be herself. No brainwashing required.


In cases like these there's an automatic assumption that the woman was somehow the victim, no matter what she actually did. Words like "grooming" and "brainwashing" are used a lot to excuse the behavior when the fact is, she's evil no matter how you look at it.

Yeah, you'd never see someone get on here and say that there must be some reason why the man involved did all of this. Maybe he was "brainwashed" by someone else too? Or nah...he's a man, so it makes sense that he'd be inherently evil. "Women are so great, and I respect them so much, that I'm going to just assume that a woman who did something this horrible had to be corrupted by an evil man."

 

[joshcryer]

Why?

Why is it so hard to believe that she may be just as fucked up as Raniere is without being brainwashed?

Because there's no history of this with her, yet there is a long history of it with Raniere. NXIVM is an MLM scam and the people at the top of MLMs are freakishly manipulative, that's how they extract money from people, they give them a big vision for some thing and then people just throw money at it.

I'm not trying to be argumentative but we don't know that.

Plenty of people have a public persona that is completely different from their private one. Likewise, many of people hide parts of themselves from the public because those aspects of their personality wouldn't be socially (or legally in this case) acceptable. It's just as likely that she became so involved with the group because it allowed her to be herself. No brainwashing required.

In cases like these there's an automatic assumption that the woman was somehow the victim, no matter what she actually did. Words like "grooming" and "brainwashing" are used a lot to excuse the behavior when the fact is, she's evil no matter how you look at it.

There is absolutely no evidence that Allsion Mack was some psychotic brainwashing nympho during the Smallville show, it would've got out so quick it's not even funny. Her "private persona" was secluded and distant, in fact when Smallville ended she wound up saying in an interview that she didn't know where to go from there because she had spent most of her young adult life on the show. Which prompted her to join Nxvim.

As far as "grooming" and "brainwashing" it's verbiage used in the court documents. If the two Jane Does can claim to have been groomed by Raniere and Alison why can't Alison claim to be groomed by Raniere? As that is almost certainly going to be her defense, and why she's rumored to be currently in a plea deal.

I say that this is bizarre because it's not usually the case where women just suddenly start worshiping a guy and being part of his harem, especially outside of cult or religious groups. I mean these women were quite literally branding one another to prove their loyalty. That's some insane shit.

This is not a normal person who is just evil on her own:

 

[LOLCats]

Someone definitely went a little overboard with their Skyrim modding.

 

[joshcryer]

https://artvoice.com/2018/04/25/mas...-raniere-and-seagrams-heiress-clare-bronfman/

More to the NXVIM story, apparently they used sex and blackmail and claims of sexual harassment as "tools" to keep people in line. The whole thing was an MLM fraud scheme and it's going to be interesting as more celebrities who got caught up in it get outed. It was very much like Scientology.

 

[RPS37]

Necrobump, because I’m watching the HBO series about this subject called The Vow right now.

 

[UnNamed]

I always thought she was the hotter chick in Smallville, and she's even more hot now, hot and nasty.

 

[MaestroMike]

Necrobump, because I’m watching the HBO series about this subject called The Vow right now.

how is it??? engrossing???

 

[RPS37]

how is it??? engrossing???

The first couple episodes were really weird because they focused on the like self-help aspect of it, then things eventually take a turn.

 

[oagboghi2]

how is it??? engrossing???

Very good so far

 

[RPS37]

Now there’s a Starz mini series about it.
I think I’m liking it better than the HBO doc.

 

[Whataborman]

Now there’s a Starz mini series about it.
I think I’m liking it better than the HBO doc.

I thought the HBO doc started slow and ended weak, but the middle episodes were good.

The Starz doc seemed like a cash grab by India and her mom so it's good to know it's decent.

 

[German Hops]

Oh damn, this was a bumped thread; I thought Chunky was back..

 

[Amory]

Nxivm (pronounced NEX-ium).

 

[oagboghi2]

There really doesn't need to be so many documentaries bout this.
It comes off as a cash grab.

And no matter how many times these documentaries try, they can't make these victims look like anything else but stupid as hell. I mean, as dumb as a box of rocks.

 

[xrnzaaas]

I'm surprised Allison Mack is still alive, you'd think someone would suicide her already if the cult actually had high ranking members.