So....Atkins diet then?
I know Taubes references Atkins a couple of times saying Atkins was aware of the science and research showing the carbs/insulin connection, but I dont know that he endorses it.
So....Atkins diet then?
Not really. Atkins didnt have enough fat and went away from even carb loaded veggies.So....Atkins diet then?
You do realize that sentence 1 and sentence 2 kind of contradict each other right?I have to disagree, calories in and out really does work. Of course a small glass of say skim milk is better for the calories vs protein of a little bag of chips but calories matter.
I think one of the things about your body knowing what it needs is part of all this though. I feel like the processed grains and sugars are fooling the body into responses it should not be making. In this case secreting a lot of insulin and signaling fat storage.
On the other side of that though, if you're feeling drained of energy and blood sugar is spiking all the time your body is telling your something.
It's funny because most medical organisations appear to say the opposite, or are at least very cautious about these diets.
There is a lot of nutritional value to some of these foods.
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I personally don't get how this is a micromanagement-heavy diet. Low carb boils down to not eating the shit we were incorrectly told to eat in large quantities. It's nothing like actual diet plans with meal calendars, measuring food quantities and nutrient intake, and going out of your way to prepare unusual meals.
I cut out significant carbs from nearly all of my breakfast and lunch meals at work. Bloated feeling and digestive problem are gone, feel less sluggish, and don't get insane hunger pangs not long after eating. A couple of eggs and a few strips of bacon (a relatively small amount of food) get me through the morning much better than a pile of pancakes or potatoes. Unlike the sudden ravenous hunger from before, my appetite builds slowly and naturally from one meal to the next. It's almost shocking how different it was when I first tried it. Whenever I slip up, I physically regret it.
Whoever said something about 10,000 calories... not really possible on low-carb. You will become satiated much quicker and on a smaller pile of food. A decent cut of steak and a side of greens and I'm done. Not in a "I won't eat anymore" self-control manner, but in a "I no longer feel like eating" satisfied way. It's a major contrast from having to eat a mountain of rice and beans with extra servings to feel full.
Honestly, no. It's not some cheap cop-out for some other right way of living. Low carb itself is a lifestyle makeover, although not a very difficult one like overly-complicated fad diets.
I'm 275 right now and you're telling me that if I eat bacon and hamburgers I can lose weight?! Don't take this the wrong way but I think I love man lol.I started low carb/keto in 10 months ago. I've lost 70 pounds (300 to 230). I eat burgers and steak and bacon all the time. All of my blood work has come out great. Good blood pressure, good cholestorol, good everything.
My eating habits have changed permanently. I have become more aware of what I eat, and eat better overall permanently and will continue to do so for the rest of my life.
This guy has some pretty vocal critics...which is to be expected I suppose, but buyer beware all the same.
This guy has some pretty vocal critics...which is to be expected I suppose, but buyer beware all the same.
I'm 275 right now and you're telling me that if I eat bacon and hamburgers I can lose weight?! Don't take this the wrong way but I think I love man lol.
I'm 275 right now and you're telling me that if I eat bacon and hamburgers I can lose weight?! Don't take this the wrong way but I think I love man lol.
Very anecdotal, but I knew a guy in college who was diabetic and had insulin regulated via injections. He had a little sensor he had to wear all the time that would beep when he needed to shoot some more insulin. I don't know if theoretically he should have been fat but this guy ate a TON and did not try to keep really healthy (burgers, burritos, pizza were regular parts of his diet) and he was like 200 pounds of pure muscle. People thought he did 'roids but he never did. I wonder if the diabetes/insulin regulation had something to do with it.
He did also work out like 5 days a week, but I would have trouble believing he burned more calories than he ate (which was a lot).
Anyway, I'm very interested in what this guy has to say. I talked to a doctor about it and he said it all makes sense based on what we know about how human bodies work. It doesn't seem like anyone who refutes these claims counters with any real science. I don't mean dubious studies, I mean biochemistry. WHY would this be bad or not work, based on everything we know?
I'm 275 right now and you're telling me that if I eat bacon and hamburgers I can lose weight?! Don't take this the wrong way but I think I love man lol.
I never exercise, can eat anything (and enjoy it too; there are many things with carb that just taste good). I'm also pretty skinny.
Now, an honest question: why should I be interested in making any changes? What would the benefits be, that outweigh the sacrifices (can it help me with my on and off backpains as well a sore wrist? because that is basically the only thing I can really complain about)
It's true. Insulin is the biggest growth hormone in your body. There's diets based around spiking your insulin on purpose with the dirtiest food you can find to get jacked.
I never exercise (like running and weight-lifting etc; I do some isometric stuff so I don't get completely stiff from work), can eat anything (and enjoy it too; there are many things with carb that just taste good). I'm also pretty skinny.
Now, an honest question: why should I be interested in making any changes? What would the benefits be, that outweigh the sacrifices (can it help me with my on and off backpains as well a sore wrist? because that is basically the only thing I can really complain about)
I somewhat do this right now since I lost most of my fat. I eat tons of carbs after I workout. ice cream, pop tarts, veggies of course, tons of sweet potatoes, rice, and brown potatoes
Yea same. www.carbbackloading.com
Not really. Atkins didnt have enough fat and went away from even carb loaded veggies.
Paleoish you can have potatoes and yams everyonce in a while. Just the bulk of your meals will be veggies, fruits nuts, a fat (very important) an protein.
For me though this diet is more of a statement because humans need to get away from reliance on genetically modified food and feeding corn to their beef. Gmo corn and soy are Destroying out planet and potentially our future food supply witb continuous tweaking.
Yup that's basically what I follow along with intermittent fasting.
You could try it. Carbs are inflammatory. Fat is anti inflammatory. Alot of my joint issues went away.
How old are you?
Alright, that's enough to pique my interest. I'll read up on it.
23.
I never exercise (like running and weight-lifting etc; I do some isometric stuff so I don't get completely stiff from work), can eat anything (and enjoy it too; there are many things with carb that just taste good). I'm also pretty skinny.
Now, an honest question: why should I be interested in making any changes? What would the benefits be, that outweigh the sacrifices (can it help me with my on and off backpains as well a sore wrist? because that is basically the only thing I can really complain about)
I started working with a new client today and this thread immediately came to mind. They are a family of four that collectively weigh over one thousand pounds. I was told to go through the cabinets to find food to make for lunch and found an entire cabinet full of hostess products. They also have three 4 packs of two liter bottles of Mountain Dew. This thread is a lie.
The worst part is that they have healthy options in the fridge and cabinets but they also horrible options like those that are mentioned above. The healthy options are completely full and look like they haven't even been touchedDamn. That's pretty sad.
I dont think you're really paying attention to whats being said.I ate bread this morning. I'm now at the gym. Afterwards I'll eat pasta.
Will I become fat or stay skinny??
I started working with a new client today and this thread immediately came to mind. They are a family of four that collectively weigh over one thousand pounds. I was told to go through the cabinets to find food to make for lunch and found an entire cabinet full of hostess products. They also have three 4 packs of two liter bottles of Mountain Dew. This thread is a lie.
Sarcasm due to the thread title. I know what the actual thread is about.Wait what? They eat and drink a fuckton of sugar and are obese. Am I missing where this contradicts the thread or some sarcasm?
The worst part is that they have healthy options in the fridge and cabinets but they also horrible options like those that are mentioned above. The healthy options are completely full and look like they haven't even been touched
Who needs a bun on a burger, just use 2 meat patties and sandwich your toppings in between them. so fucking good
been paleo/primal for about a year now, best decision I've ever made! didn't realize how much the excess grains/sugar was affecting me until I removed them
It's funny because most medical organisations appear to say the opposite, or are at least very cautious about these diets.
There is a lot of nutritional value to some of these foods.
Satiation is not the point, dismiss it. The question was theoretical.
What people are thinking is they can eat whatever they want. As long as it doesn't have carbs. After a squat workout, I can easily pile down 3-4 or 5 lbs of chicken wings or 2-3+ lbs of meat and eggs. At my size and weight, no way is my body going to be burning 4k - 5k or more calories per day. My activity for the day: Squats, sit at desk coding. I'd just get fat, I promise.
That being said. I only eat bread / pasta / wheat once or twice a week. I do, however eat oats and quinoa nearly every day. Is that supposedly bad, too?
I have to drink milk, I just have to, should I replace dairy milk with something like almond milk?
hmm so arent any grains ok? we need fiber right? i like my oatmeal!