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This Is Halo Now

Halo has the most toxic fanbase in gaming.
Not even remotely close. Halo fans have not made death threats or drove to people's places of work or living.

Halo fans are lost and angry at most, and that's because they're one small step away from being irrelevant, much like fans of Quake and Unreal Tournament.
 
The first Halo didn't even have online MP.

The game was celebrated for it's SP campaign. I agree that the SP went downhill after Halo:CE, and it became more about MP then. But the series roots began in a stellar SP that was transformative for the genre on consoles.
The first Halo game was popular mostly because of its multiplayer PVP, LAN parties, split screen 4 player battles with friends passing the controller to others in the room when defeated. That is where the popular Red Vs Blue phenomenon came out off. This gaslight that "the series roots" were because of its single player campaign is revisionist history. The split screen Coop campaign was popular but you cant omit the couch/LAN party multiplayer craze. Combat Evolved is an inferior product to the originals art style and gameplay. Its soulless and trash and frankly its what you purple haired nose ring freaks deserve.
 
Another video just the tower, Chief!


Ok this might even make the entire situation worse now that I've given it a proper watch.

At one point, during the prologue missions, the Convenant literally stand in a line and their leader (a Prophet) introduces the races to Masterchief as if they're in some toy commercial.

The prologue which are, by the way, completely nonsensical from a story point of view or design perspective as it literally throws all the enemy and weapon types at you without proper introduction and also paints the Convenant as cartoon villains by making their motives paper thin rather than religious fervour. Bizarre.
 
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But the Halo soul and ART is completely and utterly destroyed 😭 /s
 
The first Halo game was popular mostly because of its multiplayer PVP, LAN parties, split screen 4 player battles with friends passing the controller to others in the room when defeated. That is where the popular Red Vs Blue phenomenon came out off. This gaslight that "the series roots" were because of its single player campaign is revisionist history. The split screen Coop campaign was popular but you cant omit the couch/LAN party multiplayer craze. Combat Evolved is an inferior product to the originals art style and gameplay. Its soulless and trash and frankly its what you purple haired nose ring freaks deserve.

Yeah Halo CE was par for the course, there wasn't Live yet so it banked on offline PvP.

Campaign Evolved basically offers nothing of the sort. You'd expect a 2026 remake to have some form of MP.
 
Ok this might even make the entire situation worse now that I've given it a proper watch.

At one point, during the prologue missions, the Convenant literally stand in a line and their leader (a Prophet) introduces the races to Masterchief as if they're in some toy commercial.

The prologue which are, by the way, completely nonsensical from a story point of view or design perspective as it literally throws all the enemy and weapon types at you without proper introduction and also paints the Convenant as cartoon villains by making their motives paper thin rather than religious fervour. Bizarre.
Halo have cartoon villains. They look like Power Ranger foes.
 
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Yeah Halo CE was par for the course, there wasn't Live yet so it banked on offline PvP.

Campaign Evolved basically offers nothing of the sort. You'd expect a 2026 remake to have some form of MP.

That, I can agree with. That's why I waited for the Game Pass version. No MP should have made it $30. I am happy to rent it.
 
Must share the clickbait BS from YouTube unable to form my own opinion after having played the game. Herpaderp
Ok so you are mad that there's a separate thread where it's objectively shown that the new release is a lesser game compared to its original counterpart?

But we're the embarrassing ones. Gotcha.

Halo have cartoon villains. They look like Power Ranger foes.
Yes with each new release after Reach they've gotten progressively worse in that respect.

However the original game(s) had a ton more backstory and motivation for their opposition towards humanity instead of just "we must kill dey humans, dis is hunting ground". With Campaign Evolved they're seemingly reduced to cartoon villains who's only purpose is to "do eee-EEevil!".
 
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Even Skill-Up (a guy who has become part of the access media) does not recommend this... Goes so far as to say that the only actual new content, in the form of the prequel missions, is truly awful.

Otherwise pretty much echoes what everyone else has noticed what with the worse art direction, poor sound design (especially the mix of the music or absence of it entirely), ruined weapon balance, removal of health kits, bad driving physics, newly added cutscene dialogue being a mess and the overal cutscene direction just not being up to snuff.
 
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As much as I think Laufey is stupid af, make sure to pick the dumbest shot with the strangest facial expression, likely from one frame from the trailer and compare it to a totally honest shot from a different korean game.

So fucking retarded already.
 
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Even Skill-Up (a guy who has become part of the access media) does not recommend this... Goes so far as to say that the only actual new content, in the form of the prequel missions, is truly awful.

Otherwise pretty much echoes what everyone else has noticed what with the worse art direction, poor sound design (especially the mix of the music or absence of it entirely), ruined weapon balance, removal of health kits, bad driving physics, newly added cutscene dialogue being a mess and the overal cutscene direction just not being up to snuff.



Skill Up is a clown with consistently terrible takes. This is the same guy who thinks God of War Ragnarök is a 10/10 masterpiece. I'd rate that game only slightly higher than BIG Rigs.

The prequel missions are weak. The cutscenes are weak. The dialogue is weak. There are still bugs that need polishing, and I've been very vocal about all of that. I'm not excusing those issues.

What I don't agree with is YouTube outrage merchants acting like this is some catastrophic failure that everyone should avoid.

Stick to the main campaign, enable the Remix Skulls, crank the volume up, and you'll experience some of the best Halo gameplay we've had in years.

I'm genuinely devastated that we probably won't get Halo 2 and Halo 3 remakes because of the constant clickbait and manufactured outrage surrounding this release.

The art direction is every bit as good as the original, and in many areas it's even better. The music and sound effects are perfectly fine on my Q800F soundbar, despite all the claims to the contrary. The weapon balancing is also being blown way out of proportion.

The driving physics are completely fixed once you switch back to the original control scheme.

The AI is fantastic. The visuals are fantastic. The gunplay is fantastic. At its core, it plays exceptionally well, and that's what matters most.
 
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As much as I think Laufey is stupid af, make sure to pick the dumbest shot with the strangest facial expression, likely from one frame from the trailer and compare it to a totally honest shot from a different korean game.

So fucking retarded already.
'It's just a shot'
'it's just one frame'


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O yeah the usual crybabies on the internet nowadays that complain about everything because that gets views and generated traffic.

Expect the same with every single major release or anything really goong forward, that is the current state of the media, complain and get traffic views and all that shit.
 
'It's just a shot'
'it's just one frame'


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C'mon man, out of all the "Western devs purposefully make womin' ugly®" takes, this is not it...

I have no interest whatsoever in GOW anymore or this particular game btw, it's just that this example is not proving what you're trying to prove...

Heck, you could take random screenshots from a movie starring some of the most beautiful actresses out there and reach the exact same conclusion just by pausing at the most unflattering frames.
 
The one on the left looks like a real woman in distress the one on the right looks like a fucking (under aged) porn doll.

You people need help.
Underage pron. Clearly has never seen Korean women before. You people get dumber by the minute.

Fact that you associate things immediately with porn is troubling.

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Underage pron. Clearly has never seen Korean women before. You people get dumber by the minute.

Fact that you associate things immediately with porn is troubling.

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Those are women, man, whereas the other one is a child. The Asian devs need to be locked up for making this shit.
People want to criticize the use of unattractive women in Western games; fair enough, that's a valid point but the sexualization of characters who look like children or teens is a different matter.
 
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Skill Up is a clown with consistently terrible takes. This is the same guy who thinks God of War Ragnarök is a 10/10 masterpiece. I'd rate that game only slightly higher than BIG Rigs.
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Even a broken clock... etc. In this case he seems to be on the money.

By the way, it's completely fine to like Campaign Evolved. Me and others aren't here to shit on those who enjoy the game. At least, speaking for myself, that is not my intention. What I do have issue with though is the "gassing up a mid" or "no criticisms allowed" sentiment that is being thrown around lately.

I've enjoyed my fair share of mid-games myself (dare I say, slop) in the form of stuff like Battleborn or Battlefield 2042, Suicide Squad, etc but I wouldn't go out of my way to deflect genuine criticisms of those titles by going "durrr but that's just a youtuber durrr you have no own opinion durrr". Am I supposed to reject my own eyes and ears by all the gameplay that I've seen or the side-by-sides?

I'm not touching this one with a barge pole and it seems like many others are in agreement looking at the Steam numbers...
 
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Holy shit 30 minutes of a crybaby. I can't.

The game has it's problem but FFS this is getting ridiculous.
It's all so tiring. Always crying about something. And they dare call others snowflakes, the fucking irony. All these youtubers in that sphere are just making a speed run of virtue signaling into not playing games. They're not gamers.
Yup, they want clicks and engagement and will do whatever they can to get it. It's so incredibly obvious. The worst part is of course it's working on some folks, it's ridiculous. Too many videos like this are posted on here all the time and it's someone whining about a bunch of nonsense. Most of the time it's full of reaching and grasping at straws, but somehow it's enough for people to sit through it (some how) and leave thinking they know something everyone else doesn't.

I'm not a big Halo fan so I never cared in the first place, but from what I gathered, yup, it's Halo. With some changes to make it work for a more modern audience. But a lot of the key elements and moments are there apparently.
 
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some changes to make it work for a more modern audience

Yes like having waypoints in one way corridors, hud elements over every little pickup, arrows pointing out stealth enemies, hitmarkers, a hud showing RT at all times because god forbid you forget how to shoot, Cortana spoiling stuff and calling out shit that has no need.

"Its Halo"

No its not lmao.
I'm not a big Halo fan so I never cared in the first place

Ok so you dont know what you're talking about, but wanted to showcase your ignorance for us?

You probably didnt even bother watching the video before you went on a rant about clicks and whining.
 
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Yes like having waypoints in one way corridors, hud elements over every little pickup, arrows pointing out stealth enemies, hitmarkers, a hud showing RT at all times because god forbid you forget how to shoot, Cortana spoiling stuff and calling out shit that has no need.

"Its Halo"

No its not lmao.


Ok so you dont know what you're talking about, but wanted to showcase your ignorance for us?

You probably didnt even bother watching the video before you went on a rant about clicks and whining.
I know enough dude, I played the original for hundreds of hours, I don't need to prove anything to you, lol.

You're right, I didn't, because a thumbnail like that tells me all I need to know, lol. I did better, I've watched 30-40 minutes of raw gameplay rather than having some talking head tell me how I should feel about it. Hell, even popping into the OT doesn't show it overflowing with whining and complaining.
 
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I know enough dude, I played the original for hundreds of hours, I don't need to prove anything to you, lol.

You're right, I didn't, because a thumbnail like that tells me all I need to know, lol. I did better, I've watched 30-40 minutes of raw gameplay rather than having some talking head tell me how I should feel about it. Hell, even popping into the OT doesn't show it overflowing with whining and complaining.

Riiight so you dont know what youre talking about, great.

How about going into my points on what they added for modern audiences and how all of that is shit?
 
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Yup, they want clicks and engagement and will do whatever they can to get it. It's so incredibly obvious. The worst part is of course it's working on some folks, it's ridiculous. Too many videos like this are posted on here all the time and it's someone whining about a bunch of nonsense. Most of the time it's full of reaching and grasping at straws, but somehow it's enough for people to sit through it (some how) and leave thinking they know something everyone else doesn't.

I'm not a big Halo fan so I never cared in the first place, but from what I gathered, yup, it's Halo. With some changes to make it work for a more modern audience. But a lot of the key elements and moments are there apparently.

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This is a message from a friend of mine who is a hardcore Halo fanatic. He's no longer getting the game due to the crazy amount of these videos that have bombarded his YouTube feed.

I had also organised a 4 player co op today with a bunch of friends. Was going to be awesome and was so fucking looking forward to it. They all cancelled and no longer getting the game.

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This is a message from a friend of mine who is a hardcore Halo fanatic. He's no longer getting the game due to the crazy amount of these videos that have bombarded his YouTube feed.

I had also organised a 4 player co op today with a bunch of friends. Was going to be awesome and was so fucking looking forward to it. They all cancelled and no longer getting the game.

....

Nah its just for clicks and engagement man! Its all lies and cries!

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Not lies and cries, just subjective. Some look for stuff to whine about, some don't. 🙃

From what I gathered the majority don't give two shits. Or just shrug it off.

Yeah because gamers are sheep, news at fucking eleven.

Rebuying games over and over because they slapped a new coat of paint on it is pathetic. The entire industry rn is pathetic.

People who keep buying these remakes for full price are contributing to the downfall of this industry.

There are people who bought Suicide Squad and defended it to the death. Not everybody has good taste or a valid subjective opinion.
 
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Yeah because gamers are sheep, news at fucking eleven.

Rebuying games over and over because they slapped a new coat of paint on it is pathetic. The entire industry rn is pathetic.

People who keep buying these remakes for full price are contributing to the downfall of this industry.

There are people who bought Suicide Squad and defended it to the death. Not everybody has good taste or a valid subjective opinion.
You're not wrong, water is wet.

Mainstream is gonna mainstream unfortunately, and that's just how things go.

Not sure why people feel like a remake is worth a full price, especially when it isn't even the full game. 🤷‍♂️
 
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