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Xbox business Showcase Announced for February 15

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Nonehxc

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Bojanglez said:
BREAKING!

The cover art for the podcast has just leaked, and In the interests of all involved it looks like Phil has secured a podcast host that will absolutely not let him get away with spouting propaganda unchallenged.


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'Xbox didn't start the Console War...it was the Playstation. In fact, Playstation never existed, it was all along a part of the Xbox ecosystem, Tucker.' 🤨
 
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Aguero9320

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For the last week: “they could end this with a tweet, the fact that they haven’t is proof that it’s “joever!”

Today: “It’s only a podcast not a full event? That’s proof that it’s “joever!”
 
Killjoy-NL

Killjoy-NL

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King Dazzar said:
If all of this Xbox Everywhere approach does indeed turn true. It does bring us full circle in thoughts though and where we are with future hardware rumours. Why would anyone with a Switch by a MS handheld and same parallel for PS5 owners... maybe they're no longer bothered.
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Should be a given.

Been a point of discussion for years.
 
thicc_girls_are_teh_best

thicc_girls_are_teh_best

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Topher said:
Warren is doubling down on multiple Xbox games going to PlayStation and Switch.

"Sources familiar with Microsoft’s plans tell The Verge that the company is getting ready to launch a select number of Xbox games on PS5 and Nintendo Switch. Weeks of rumors suggest that Hi-Fi Rush, Sea of Thieves, and even Bethesda titles like Starfield and Indiana Jones could appear on non-Xbox platforms."
www.theverge.com

Microsoft prepares to take Xbox everywhere

Some Xbox games are coming to PS5 and Switch.
www.theverge.com www.theverge.com
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Tom definitely has an inside track at Microsoft, so this basically confirms at least that part of the rumors.

At least, it does for me.

IDKFA said:
I reckon I'm flexible enough to gargle my own nutsack. It's just exotic masturbation.

Anyway, interesting that this is the same day as the Nintendo Direct.

It could be likely that Microsoft and Nintendo have teemed up. Microsoft will release thier games on Nintendo switch (and it's successor), but give Sony the two finger treatment 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Maybe it's more like Microsoft does the SEGA thing initially where some games go to one platform, some go to another etc. But instead of being new exclusives, it's with ports of older games...

...which really makes no sense, but Microsoft have made a good number of business decisions this gen that make no sense anyway.

King Dazzar said:
If all of this Xbox Everywhere approach does indeed turn true. It does bring us full circle in thoughts though and where we are with future hardware rumours. Why would anyone with a Switch by a MS handheld and same parallel for PS5 owners... maybe they're no longer bothered.
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Hardware could still have a future at MS for gaming but IMO, only if it's married closely to being a lot more PC/tablet/laptop etc.-like. Meaning among other things, focused more on being optimized Windows gaming systems with some console-like design language and customization options where appropriate like on PC. Pricing model would also shift to accommodate that type of change.

Still probably at least two years out from that taking place though.

Banjo64 said:
To be honest, memes aside. Should have just been a statement published on the website.

Sony just drop bad news like a stinking turd through their blog and don’t worry about a clean up op.

MS are too worried about the optics. I doubt any of us really care about Booty, Spencer and cyborg trying to tell us the key facts in a roundabout way.

Just say ‘yeah we’re porting X and X to these platforms, this is the date, this is the cost’.
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TBF, Sony's not made any singular business strategy change near as significant as the likely multiple ones Microsoft will most likely announce for their gaming division on Thursday. The closest things were the PS5 price increase (due to economics), the PS+ price hike (legit bad way of handling it, but it is what it is), and possibly having heavily readjusted the GaaS (and maybe PC port) plans internally.

But the last one doesn't really need a formal announcement or such because changes to both those things would likely be favorable adjustments for majority of the diehards and core fans in the PS community, and you'd just see the effects of the changes over time through changes in actions.

JohnnyFootball said:
Matt Booty should have been fired over him. Matt's job was to manage first party studios. Those have been an unmitigated disaster. Gears and Forza have been fine, but so many cancellations, budget over runs and overall poor studio management.
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The fact Matt got promoted to head not just XGS but now also Zenimax AND ABK is just insane to me. What private parties did he host to pull that type of promotion off? 😂
 
Shin-Ra

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Papa_Wisdom said:
True story* me and Natasha beddingfield played strip poker over Xbox live using the 360 camera back in the day

*thats not true
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You played strip UNO with Daniel Bedingfield using his sister’s XBLG account.



Kenneth Haight said:
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Bojanglez said:
BREAKING!

The cover art for the podcast has just leaked, and In the interests of all involved it looks like Phil has secured a podcast host that will absolutely not let him get away with spouting propaganda unchallenged.


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Looks like Kermit with the flappy legs.

 
ReBurn

ReBurn

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Aguero9320 said:
For the last week: “they could end this with a tweet, the fact that they haven’t is proof that it’s “joever!”

Today: “It’s only a podcast not a full event? That’s proof that it’s “joever!”
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The dramatic theater around Microsoft expanding to other platforms is funny. People seem to forget that Phil was running around signing multi-platform deals with Sony and Nintendo while trying to acquire Activision. They were officially a multi-platform publisher the day they closed that deal and whatever this change is started then. It just took until now for people to notice.
 
nemiroff

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I guess a few warriors will show up at the beach party in a funeral attire. But if anything, a couple of games going multiplatform should be celebrated.
 
DJ12

DJ12

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thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
Maybe it's more like Microsoft does the SEGA thing initially where some games go to one platform, some go to another etc. But instead of being new exclusives, it's with ports of older games...

...which really makes no sense, but Microsoft have made a good number of business decisions this gen that make no sense anyway.
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Doesn't make much sense selling it on the platform that historically is only bought for first party content, with third party stuff floundering for the cash at the back of the sofa.

I mean look at this:

en.wikipedia.org

List of best-selling Nintendo Switch video games - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

A switch only strategy is one that's going to fail instantly.
 
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ReBurn said:
The dramatic theater around Microsoft expanding to other platforms is funny. People seem to forget that Phil was running around signing multi-platform deals with Sony and Nintendo while trying to acquire Activision. They were officially a multi-platform publisher the day they closed that deal and whatever this change is started then. It just took until now for people to notice.
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Agreed. And I don’t see what the problem is with any of it… People just got giddy and thought the sky was falling (which upset some and excited others).

I’m hoping to hear news of XCloud coming to more devices (Apple TV app please, and expand beyond the newer Samsung TVs) and getting beefed up a bit, or news on the Ubisoft cloud deal, which has been really quiet, along with the ABK to Game Pass news that hasn’t materialised yet.

I think they’ll expand on a leadership reshuffle too.

Hopefully once it’s out in the open people here will calm the fuck down a bit, or at lease get moderated a bit more strongly. Been a complete anti Xbox shitshow on here the last week - painful to read
 
FewRope

FewRope

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Topher said:
Warren is doubling down on multiple Xbox games going to PlayStation and Switch.

"Sources familiar with Microsoft’s plans tell The Verge that the company is getting ready to launch a select number of Xbox games on PS5 and Nintendo Switch. Weeks of rumors suggest that Hi-Fi Rush, Sea of Thieves, and even Bethesda titles like Starfield and Indiana Jones could appear on non-Xbox platforms."
www.theverge.com

Microsoft prepares to take Xbox everywhere

Some Xbox games are coming to PS5 and Switch.
www.theverge.com www.theverge.com
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NateTheHate maybe has to check out his sources again
 
thicc_girls_are_teh_best

thicc_girls_are_teh_best

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bitbydeath said:
Only two bullets to go.

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Gestridens: "You wanna fire me, Microsoft? Go ahead. Fuk around and find out."
ReBurn said:
The dramatic theater around Microsoft expanding to other platforms is funny. People seem to forget that Phil was running around signing multi-platform deals with Sony and Nintendo while trying to acquire Activision. They were officially a multi-platform publisher the day they closed that deal and whatever this change is started then. It just took until now for people to notice.
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That's a bit of an underselling of whatever shift this new direction represents. The initial deals they were offering Sony for ABK were just long enough to ride out Sony's marketing deal with COD, but short enough to leverage COD in a foreclosure strategy with a next-gen Xbox console. Then they offered the choice of either 3 years of ABK games, or 10 years of COD, maybe thinking Sony would choose the former but even if they chose the latter, still let Microsoft use foreclosure tactics for stuff like Diablo, WOW, Tony Hawk, Crash, Spyro & whatever else.

I think them being forced not only into concessions for Sony, but various cloud gaming providers, Nintendo, Nvidia, and especially giving up cloud streaming rights for 15 years to Ubisoft, might've caused Microsoft to re-evaluate their path going forward. If they had any big plans to leverage ABK content in foreclosure to give a boost to the next Xbox console, a lot of those plans were probably destroyed thanks to the concessions made to get the deal approved (and they're still contending with the FTC in getting everything finalized in the US).

From their POV, is it worth slugging about another 10-15 years with Xbox consoles and that business model, for the chance to use games like COD as exclusives and maybe gain back some market share? How many more billions would they have to risk losing over that period by biding their time? Is it really worth sinking in hundreds of millions/billions again for yet another generation of Xbox consoles that have to be manufactured at large scale, sold at a loss, and have massive marketing campaigns around...just to maybe do a bit better against Sony and Nintendo?

At some point, it just stops making sense, and no longer seems worth doing. Microsoft are probably at that point now, especially after already sinking $80+ billion in acquisitions. They can't make Xbox profitable or successful as a traditional console business, so maybe it's time to pivot towards a fully platform-agnostic publisher model and skew the hardware (if it remains) into a market that's better off for them (PC and PC-like devices) instead.

Aguero9320 said:
Agreed. And I don’t see what the problem is with any of it… People just got giddy and thought the sky was falling (which upset some and excited others).

I’m hoping to hear news of XCloud coming to more devices (Apple TV app please, and expand beyond the newer Samsung TVs) and getting beefed up a bit, or news on the Ubisoft cloud deal, which has been really quiet, along with the ABK to Game Pass news that hasn’t materialised yet.

I think they’ll expand on a leadership reshuffle too.

Hopefully once it’s out in the open people here will calm the fuck down a bit, or at lease get moderated a bit more strongly. Been a complete anti Xbox shitshow on here the last week - painful to read
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Microsoft: "Fortunately we have a place for people who aren't able to harsh truths about the Xbox brand, it's called ResetERA"
 
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ReBurn

ReBurn

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thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
Gestridens: "You wanna fire me, Microsoft? Go ahead. Fuk around and find out."


That's a bit of an underselling of whatever shift this new direction represents. The initial deals they were offering Sony for ABK were just long enough to ride out Sony's marketing deal with COD, but short enough to leverage COD in a foreclosure strategy with a next-gen Xbox console. Then they offered the choice of either 3 years of ABK games, or 10 years of COD, maybe thinking Sony would choose the former but even if they chose the latter, still let Microsoft use foreclosure tactics for stuff like Diablo, WOW, Tony Hawk, Crash, Spyro & whatever else.

I think them being forced not only into concessions for Sony, but various cloud gaming providers, Nintendo, Nvidia, and especially giving up cloud streaming rights for 15 years to Ubisoft, might've caused Microsoft to re-evaluate their path going forward. If they had any big plans to leverage ABK content in foreclosure to give a boost to the next Xbox console, a lot of those plans were probably destroyed thanks to the concessions made to get the deal approved (and they're still contending with the FTC in getting everything finalized in the US).

From their POV, is it worth slugging about another 10-15 years with Xbox consoles and that business model, for the chance to use games like COD as exclusives and maybe gain back some market share? How many more billions would they have to risk losing over that period by biding their time? Is it really worth sinking in hundreds of millions/billions again for yet another generation of Xbox consoles that have to be manufactured at large scale, sold at a loss, and have massive marketing campaigns around...just to maybe do a bit better against Sony and Nintendo?

At some point, it just stops making sense, and no longer seems worth doing. Microsoft are probably at that point now, especially after already sinking $80+ billion in acquisitions. They can't make Xbox profitable or successful as a traditional console business, so maybe it's time to pivot towards a fully platform-agnostic publisher model and skew the hardware (if it remains) into a market that's better off for them (PC and PC-like devices) instead.
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What I'm saying is that Microsoft had to make decisions about the future of Xbox as part of the process of closing the largest tech deal in history. They didn't buy ABK for $70b and then suddenly realize after closing that Xbox and Game Pass numbers weren't where they needed to be. They didn't try a Hail Mary of dumping as much of the ABK catalog as possible onto Game Pass to try to win the holiday. They knew then that this was the path they were going because they knew there was no way Xbox alone could sustain the revenue stream they were buying.

When bumped up against the histrionics of the past week it could seem like underselling what's happening, but I don't think it is. I think the writing was on the wall the whole time.
 
Elysium44

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JohnnyFootball said:
Matt Booty should have been fired over him. Matt's job was to manage first party studios. Those have been an unmitigated disaster. Gears and Forza have been fine, but so many cancellations, budget over runs and overall poor studio management.
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Well not Forza Motorsport, that was a disaster too.
 
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