Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Is that supposed to look great? or were you being sarcastic? Because that doesn't look very next-gen at all.Agreed. PCs couldn't possibly hope to run all that next-gen goodness.
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Star Wars Jedi Survivor PC Performance Discussion OT: May The Port Be With You
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REDRZA MWS
Member
I have a pc with specs, i9 9900k OC’ed, 32 GB ripsaw RAM, and an rtx 4090. How are these stuttering ports still a problem. guess im getting Jedi Survivor on my Series X. This is ridiculous.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
It is what it is. Consoles always have their limitations, be resolutions, performance, controllers, etc, etc. People choose to play on pc to avoid those problems...
MiguelItUp
Member
My understanding (for the most part) is that it's very much playable, still able to be played and enjoyed, etc. But everyone's thresh hold is different. I've noticed a lot of people that have exponentially beefy rigs are up in arms about it. I'm not concerned.
A lot of people are and will be streaming it today. I watched Cohh stream it for a bit on PC, and stopped as I don't want to be spoiled. He was having some weird horizontal black bar issue. But it was fixed, and disappeared. Everything I saw looked smooth, but this was still in the very beginning of the game, my understanding is the open world segments is when you notice instability.
SkillUp, who's one of the few I tend to agree with, said that if you're playing on PC it's best to avoid it until it's patched and improved. Which, come launch I'm sure it'll be BETTER. Maybe not perfect, but better. But we'll see.
Why are so many devs on other platforms up in arms defending this common issue?
You got paid and are moving on to your next project or stuck fixing your busted work and continue getting paid.
Sick of them thinking they are the most holy of industry workers and only have problems others don't.
I cannot think of any other type of job where people defend shoddy work, (or lesser work because of an actual issue) other than VFX artists that are being worked to the bone.
Also, yeah most of this is upper management pushing shit out before it's ready but let's not pretend other developers can make equally decent lookng games without these issues.
Otherwise I can't really say much until tomorrow and then the praise, or shit-show can begin.
Also, "But my bonus". lmao.
You got paid and are moving on to your next project or stuck fixing your busted work and continue getting paid.
Sick of them thinking they are the most holy of industry workers and only have problems others don't.
I cannot think of any other type of job where people defend shoddy work, (or lesser work because of an actual issue) other than VFX artists that are being worked to the bone.
Also, yeah most of this is upper management pushing shit out before it's ready but let's not pretend other developers can make equally decent lookng games without these issues.
Otherwise I can't really say much until tomorrow and then the praise, or shit-show can begin.
Also, "But my bonus". lmao.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
No, the difference between 4 and 8GB textures is the LOD pop-in. Not the actual textures themselves. I see pop-in all the time now that im forced to settle for 4GB when i was running the game just fine at native 4k 60 fps with hair strands on at high a couple of weeks ago.
RT does cause problems in both RE4 and Hogarts since its a vram hog, but i turned it off in both games. And yes, once you do that the stuttering goes away. But i bought the 3080 for its RT performance. Otherwise i wouldve just bought a 6950xt which was 20% better rasterization performance and way more vram.
P.S Go back and look at the hogwart PC thread. The game only became playable even without RT when we added 32GB of system ram and made changes to the config file that were patched in a couple of weeks later by the devs themselves. Without those changes to the config file, the game was damn near unplayable. RT off or on. Everyone who stepped out into the courtyard and saw their framerate dip to below 30 fps can attest to that.
P.P.S Gotham Knights with RT runs fine at a locked 60 fps at 4k dlss quality. Until it doesnt. It literally drops to single digit fps every 20-30 minutes. Even after they fixed all the UE4 shader related stutters. I played the game without RT because i hated those single digit fps drops. Hogwarts was a mess until i upgraded my ram, changed the config files thanks to reddit, and turned off RT. Witcher 3 went from 70-80 fps with RT on to fucking 25 fps even in smaller towns. RE4 kept crashing with RT on. Hell, RE4 looked like shit on the PS5 performance mode, they fucked up the XSX modes then fixed it then fucked up the PS5 IQ in the latest patch. This is not a PC exclusive issue. Just look at the star wars jedi survivor PS5 video we posted earlier in the thread. 15 seconds to load textures. At least R4 loads them within a second or two, this thing is taking 15 seconds to load textures on the PS5. We all know how shit forspoken looked on the PS5. This is affecting everyone.
Thebonehead
Banned
Fixed that for you
Strangely, it's also full of corporate loving Sony fangirls shitposting
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Unreal Engine 4 stutter struggle continues.
Sleepwalker
Member
Yep, ive said it before. AMD sponsored games end up having cancer performance on PC.
Now jedi survivor. Dead island 2 being the exception so far, but also that game is not that demanding afaik.
Alex11
Member
Yes, but how many can really have this mentality on forums, 20-30%? Maybe the ones that simply play games and don't comment anywhere, they can enjoy games, and have no problems with others enjoying games on different platforms.
When I see people genuinely happy about someone else's misery for a shit port or vice versa, I'm like '' wtf is wrong with you? ''. It's like they have some sort of investment or own the companies of their preferred platform for games.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Even the PS5 version has stutter
OverHeat
« generous god »
Sony GAF where is your I/O god now?
GymWolf
Member
Krappadizzle
Member
You playing Redfall with people or solo?
GymWolf
Member
It's an arkane game so i'm going solo.
But i'm open to some fuckery with gaf members if they wanna coop.
The problem is that i play in italy when you americans are probably still at work or something.
Zathalus
Member
Ah yes, because Dead Space and RE4 had issues on PC. No wait, that was PS5...
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Looks like another vrs + fsr2.0 tragedy... I hate this piexlated break up crap.
Just make the game lower res with normal good TAA or fsr1. maaaybe use checkerboarding but for gods sake fsr and vrs are terrible features
Kataploom
Gold Member
They've not been told that if PC players downgrade settings to PS5 levels games not only avoid most of bespoken issues but run better on mid range hardware than on it if the port isn't an absolute broken mess like TLOU.
BTW, I saw the TLOU P1 news and seems like it's getting most issues fixed, tho some are still complaining about "even more crashes" on Steam forums, was thinking on getting it while I wait for SW:JS to be fixed but seems I'm better off just playing something else
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Looks like a patch today fixed the GPU utilization issues:
- 3080 has 99% GPU utilization
- Game runs at 70 fps on 1440p using Ultra Setting RT Off.
- 1% Lows are just 53 fps
- VRAM usage is less than 9GB
- RAM usage is around 16GB. 32GB might be recommended here.
It's still the opening area so it could get worse as you go into the more open world areas.
I played the first one at native 4k 60 fps epic settings on my 2080 so to settle for 1440p 60 fps on my 3080 is going to be lame but i will take something that is playable on day one.
staticshock
Member
You do realize that DirectStorage 1.2 would get you the very 20GB/s bandwidth on your RTX 3080 that you claim you would need 4090 to hit?
The "God-tier I/O" cult will never cease to amaze me!
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
Also:
"I've seen some tests on RTX 4090 struggling to get 50fps, well, they weren't completely wrong, I was having the same issue when I got the game yesterday, even at the lowest settings I wasn't able to reach 60fps due to extremely low GPU Usage (it was around 60-70% and I was getting 40 to 55fps), but thankfully, a new update was released today, and my GPU Usage issue was fixed.
You SHOULD NOT trust tests released before today's update (6,5GB update), even though the port is still problematic, the performance is way better, and it is possible to get more than 60fps now."
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Expectation:
Reality:
Reality:
Doctor Hades
Member
Hahaha! I see AMD are doing their utmost to sponsor the PC's downfall as a gaming platform! They must be *so* proud!
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
They want to know if they paid $70 to play a inferior game.
Braag
Member
Buggy Loop
Member
So is it really fixed? Audio bugs too?
Oh it's not fixed performance..
Oh it's not fixed performance..
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ZoukGalaxy
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Buggy Loop
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Ooouf, those RT effects.
Thanks AMD!
Alex11
Member
Ooouf, those RT effects.
Thanks AMD!
That looks rough, I've seen better reflections non-RT in older games. What the hell happened? , I was so looking forward to this game, and all I see are disappointments, both graphically and gameplay wise, granted the gameplay ones are personal opinions.
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Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Anytime AMD are involved expect the raytracing to be a joke.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Alright. Preloaded. Off to play it. Pray for me.
Kataploom
Gold Member
I said it in a reply post but those estimations seem very conservative, my 5600X could run A Plague Tale Requiem at more than 80 fps before being bottlenecked by GPU at 1080p, at 1440p that CPU + RX 6700 XT ran the game from around 60 to over 70 fps... That's a game that is said to be bottlenecked on consoles by CPU so it's limited to 30-40 fps at 1440p upscaled to 4K, with Forspoken the story is basically the same, it just loads like 80% slower on my PC compared to PS5 (but that's just 3 seconds on PS5 vs 5 or so on my PC), I'm bottlenecked by PCIe 3.0 but people with beter GPU and PCIe 4.0 even beat PS5 on that regard, which has the most powerful I/O system of the consoles.
BTW, haven't seen new reports on PC version, how is it running to people here in GAF? Or basically everybody decided to hold up lol
StereoVsn
Member
4050 could be excused, IMO. It's a low end GPU (watch Nvidia charge like $350 for it). So if it has 8gb, that's acceptable.
4060Ti/4060 having 8GB is complete BS.
StereoVsn
Member
But that's not a developer call. It would be their publisher's which is EA in this case.
And yes, this port appears to suck, same as TLOU, Hogwarts and others. Then they get patched up.
Basically publishers dont want to wait anymore because they know that gamers will buy titles anyways. Then (hopefully) game gets patched up.
The key is just basically stop buying at release. After a month or three usually things get settled more or less, but not always of course.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Ok, first impressions. Not bad. My Specs:
Aside from the micro stutters every now and then, I havent seen any glitches or bugs or crashes. GPU utilization is roughly 75-99%. Definitely CPU bound in some areas. I didn't get the HDR bug GamingTech was talking about so maybe the day one patch fixed all these issues.
The game feels really really good. Kind of a slow opening but the combat feels tight, visuals remind me of Ratchet though not as pretty of course. I really like all the new changes to the stances and NPCs.
P.S EA App Uses 600 MB itself. But I did see it go down to 200MB after I quit out of the game. No idea why these apps need dedicated vram.
- 3080 + 32 GB RAM + i7-1700k
- 1440p Epic Settings No Ray Tracing 55-65 fps
- VRAM usage 7GB
Aside from the micro stutters every now and then, I havent seen any glitches or bugs or crashes. GPU utilization is roughly 75-99%. Definitely CPU bound in some areas. I didn't get the HDR bug GamingTech was talking about so maybe the day one patch fixed all these issues.
The game feels really really good. Kind of a slow opening but the combat feels tight, visuals remind me of Ratchet though not as pretty of course. I really like all the new changes to the stances and NPCs.
P.S EA App Uses 600 MB itself. But I did see it go down to 200MB after I quit out of the game. No idea why these apps need dedicated vram.
Kataploom
Gold Member
Say whatever about the game animations and graphics "not so much better than last gen", but damn I can see the areas being waaaaay bigger and graphics a little better on characters but noticably better on environments, and Jedi Fallen Order was already crawling on last gen consoles so I think graphics are good enough for me
Raelgun
Member
Running 5120x1440 (32:9), max graphics, ray tracing on, widest FOV, FSR2 off, vsync off
Getting like 55-65FPS in the opening mission on 4090
Not noticing stutters, crashes, audio bugs so far
Looks and plays fine - but 4090 should be getting way higher
hollams
Gold Member
4090 + Ryzen 7700
Same experience as you. I am playing 4k max everything with Ray Tracing and even though I didn't look at my FPS it felt pretty smooth except for the micro stutters. I wish they weren't there, but it's a very minor gripe. The game looks awesome and the HDR really pops on the OLED. The combat is good and the dismemberment is awesome. I finished a quick battle and there were arms and legs all over the place. I cut off another enemies arm and as I did you could see the bright red burn mark that reminded me of the old cigarette lighters in cars that would turn red on the ends.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yep. Combat feels weighty yet responsive and far more brutal than the first game. I legit said wow when the game switched stances on me bb and i cut through half a dozen stormtroopers.
I really like that they give you ask the abilities at the very start of the game instead of stripping him of them like they do in gow. Game feels fun to play from the start.
rnlval
Member
GTX 3070's 8GB VRAM issue is the same garbage tactics as expected from NVIDIA's GTX 970's fake 0.5 GB VRAM.
rnlval
Member
2GB VRAM PC GPUs were rendered obsolete with PS4 / XBO era.
4 GB to 8 GB VRAM target is mid-gen PS4 Pro / Xbox One X target. GTX 970's 3.5 GB VRAM + 0.5 GB fake VRAM is soured milk.
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