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HBO Original | The Last of Us - Review Thread

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Nvzman

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Represent. said:
Point of the show is to grow the franchise and show it to audiences that will never pick up a controller in their life.

I truly don’t understand how a simple character Death can cause you to lose interest entirely in a series, and a studio as a whole. It makes no sense at all to me and is kind of childish.

I thought the people who stopped watching The Walking Dead because Glenn died were weird as well.

When my fav character dies in a fictional piece I don’t suddenly hate the goddamn existence of the show and the studio that makes it. That is weird.

Different strokes I suppose.
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I also don't understand how you can just generalize me not liking TLOU2 because of one thing.
The writing in general for that game was just garbage and basically shat all over the first game. Ellie went from the most likable character to being an absolute jerk, Joel is oblivious and an idiot (how he gets killed is incredibly out of character), and the whole cycle of revenge thing is so tired and overdone. It just basically felt like Druckmann had complete creative freedom because he successfully forced all the people that kept him on a leash out of the company (his original ideas for TLOU1 were fucking terrible), and as a result you get "subverting expectations: the game", but not once is it ever actually written well.
It's insulting because I genuinely love the first game. It was amazing when it came out.
 
Hugare

Hugare

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Majima Everywhere System said:
I like that season 3 idea! Round 2 of hours upon hours dedicated to a character audiences hate, with your old favorites no where in sight.

The point of making a story should always be to put as much effort in getting the audience attached to characters and certain scenarios, then withholding and goining neener neener.
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By the 3rd season they would have a huge audience already, so I see them taking this risky approach

"Round 2 of hours upon hours dedicated to a character audiences hate, with your old favorites no where in sight.".

Yeah, well ... that was the whole point for the half of the game. Try making you care about this character you hate.

Worked for me (and many more), and will probably work for even more people with the TV format since you are not actively controlling the character

I'll sincerely be disapointed if they dont take this approach now. Sounds too good.

Abby reaching the theater and shooting Tommy and Jessie is the perfect climax for the end of the season.
 
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remember_spinal

remember_spinal

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the last of us part 1 and 2 sales gonna have sales gaf (bundurus) committing seppuku

GIF by FirstAndMonday
 
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Mibu no ookami

Mibu no ookami

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elcapitano said:
I wonder when they'll release a director's cut of Part 2 on PC and a dedicated ps5 version. It makes too much sense not to considering the show and the fact Part 1 is coming to PC
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They have to be careful. They can't really promote it right away due to increased spoilers. My guess is they'd wait to market it with Season 2.
 
Elysion

Elysion

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Twist: Joel gets infected and sacrifices himself in the middle of the season, while Tess is the one who continues traveling with Ellie. Basically the reverse of what happened in the game. Instead of a father-daughter bond, we get a mother-daughter relationship in the show. A change like this would surprise those in the audience who played the game, without actually changing the overall story too much. Would they dare to pull a MGS2 on us like that? If they hadn’t chosen a well known actor like Pedro Pascal as Joel, I would’ve said yes.

Anyway, I expect this show to follow Westworld‘s trajectory: a phenomenal 1st season, followed by a steep decline in interest with each consecutive season. Ellie will be the new Dolores; a well liked character in the 1st season, who later turns into an unlikable pos. And Joel‘s absence from later seasons (except for flashbacks maybe) will leave a similar unfillable void as the absence of Anthony Hopkins in Westworld after his death. And just like Westworld, TLoU doesn’t need more than one season in the first place (just like the first game didn‘t really needed a sequel tbh, at least not with the same characters).
 
SLB1904

SLB1904

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Nvzman said:
I also don't understand how you can just generalize me not liking TLOU2 because of one thing.
The writing in general for that game was just garbage and basically shat all over the first game. Ellie went from the most likable character to being an absolute jerk, Joel is oblivious and an idiot (how he gets killed is incredibly out of character), and the whole cycle of revenge thing is so tired and overdone. It just basically felt like Druckmann had complete creative freedom because he successfully forced all the people that kept him on a leash out of the company (his original ideas for TLOU1 were fucking terrible), and as a result you get "subverting expectations: the game", but not once is it ever actually written well.
It's insulting because I genuinely love the first game. It was amazing when it came out.
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El Pistolero

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Tiago Rodrigues said:
Except for Netflix literally every series has weekly releases both on tv and streaming services...why would this be any different?
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streaming ala Netflix has introduced this "binge the whole thing in a weekend" mentality...a disastrous one, imo. I fell under the spell myself, becoming a gluttonous viewer, which soured me on so many interesting shows that I abondoned in my perpetual quest for the next best thing, halfway through the season. I would normally not disembark from an adventure were it to be enjoyed in moderation: The build-up after a few days of abstinence makes for an exhilerating, more intense and more focused viewing.
 
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remember_spinal

remember_spinal

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El Pistolero said:
streaming ala Netflix has introduced this "binge the whole thing in a weekend" mentality...a disastrous one, imo. I fell under the spell myself, becoming a gluttonous viewer, which soured me on so many interesting shows that I abondoned in my perpetual quest for the next best thing, halfway through the season. I would normally not disembark from an adventure were it to be enjoyed in moderation: The build-up after a few days of abstinence makes for an exhilerating, more intense and more focused viewing.
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Its way more fun to do weekly watches with people and be able to talk about it on monday. Typically when something is all released at once everyone binges it in one day and spoils it for everyone else who doesn’t have the time, and by the next week conversation is over.

Netflix knows its a bad business model which is why they’ve been making so many of their shows weekly or breaking them up into 3rds. They even did it with Stranger Things
 
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Mibu no ookami

Mibu no ookami

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Hugare said:
By the 3rd season they would have a huge audience already, so I see them taking this risky approach

"Round 2 of hours upon hours dedicated to a character audiences hate, with your old favorites no where in sight.".

Yeah, well ... that was the whole point for the half of the game. Try making you care about this character you hate.

Worked for me (and many more), and will probably work for even more people with the TV format since you are not actively controlling the character

I'll sincerely be disapointed if they dont take this approach now. Sounds too good.

Abby reaching the theater and shooting Tommy and Jessie is the perfect climax for the end of the season.
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Because you aren't actively going to be controlling Abby, my guess is the 2nd season won't be split up the same way the game is. You're not going to have 1 season or 1 half of the season dedicated to Bella Ramsey and the other dedicated to an actress playing Abby.

Abby is going to be the deuteragonist of season 2 with the season probably showing both of their plotlines at the same time.
 
Mibu no ookami

Mibu no ookami

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El Pistolero said:
streaming ala Netflix has introduced this "binge the whole thing in a weekend" mentality...a disastrous one, imo. I fell under the spell myself, becoming a gluttonous viewer, which soured me on so many interesting shows that I abondoned in my perpetual quest for the next best thing, halfway through the season. I would normally not disembark from an adventure were it to be enjoyed in moderation: The build-up after a few days of abstinence makes for an exhilerating, more intense and more focused viewing.
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remember_spinal said:
Its way more fun to do weekly watches with people and be able to talk about it on monday. Typically when something is all released at once everyone binges it in one day and spoils it for everyone else who doesn’t have the time, and by the next week conversation is over.

Netflix knows its a bad business model which is why they’ve been making so many of their shows weekly or breaking them up into 3rds. They even did it with Stranger Things
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I think it depends. When it comes to long form story telling and long form TV, I think being able to binge something can really push things forward as well.

Netflix has been able to create way more buzz with their shows than HBO has over the last few years. HBO really had Game of Thrones and that was it. They had that last 8 years and had books to go off of for the first like 5 years.

Stranger Things, Squid Game, Money Heist... all really became global phenomenon and we're all more or less binge-able in their entirety. I'm not sure that having any of these shows release week to week would have benefited their popularity. In fact with Money Heist is started weekly and went to a full release.

Andor probably would have been more popular had it been released all at once.
 
Tiago Rodrigues

Tiago Rodrigues

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El Pistolero said:
streaming ala Netflix has introduced this "binge the whole thing in a weekend" mentality...a disastrous one, imo. I fell under the spell myself, becoming a gluttonous viewer, which soured me on so many interesting shows that I abondoned in my perpetual quest for the next best thing, halfway through the season. I would normally not disembark from an adventure were it to be enjoyed in moderation: The build-up after a few days of abstinence makes for an exhilerating, more intense and more focused viewing.
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Imagine binge watching a show like House of the Dragon and TLOU, etc like that...House of the Dragon was talked about for over 2 months non-stop, every damn week...and then once it was over people kept talking about it for some more time.

I always felt that the reason why Netflix never got a lot of iconic tv shows is literally because they do this. People talk about these shows for 2 weeks and they are "forgotten". Then they end up canceling 99% of them after 1 or 2 seasons, lmao. It's about quantity and not always quality, while HBO is a lot more consistent. It's also extremely annoying how when a tv show is released like that, you're full of spoilers everywhere online including the ending, while a TV show that has an episode a week it's much easier to manage that.

Can you imagine shows like Lost back in the day if you could just binge watch each season in like 20 hours?

A lot of the most iconic shows have a fanbase because people talk about what happened the past episode...and then all the theories about the next one, etc...it creates a lot more excitement. I can see TLOU being glued to the best selling titles on steam for a while as the show airs tbh...
 
Kerotan

Kerotan

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Represent. said:
Point of the show is to grow the franchise and show it to audiences that will never pick up a controller in their life.

I truly don’t understand how a simple character Death can cause you to lose interest entirely in a series, and a studio as a whole. It makes no sense at all to me and is kind of childish.

I thought the people who stopped watching The Walking Dead because Glenn died were weird as well.

When my fav character dies in a fictional piece I don’t suddenly hate the goddamn existence of the show and the studio that makes it. That is weird.

Different strokes I suppose.
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You fucking dickhead not marking that walking dead nugget under a spoiler.
 
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JediMind

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I have seen the first episode and trust me, it's great. Everything just works and it feels like a premium show. Really looking forward to see the remaning episodes, can't wait! :)
 
Spaceman292

Spaceman292

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AeonGaidenRaiden said:
Damn, 10 pages or arguments and the show isnt even out yet lol. Can imagine what will happen when everyone watches the first episode.
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It'll turn out to be a nicely made but fairly standard zombie survival story that's not worth arguing about. But yeah that won't stop the crazies and their hot takes.
 
mckmas8808

mckmas8808

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remember_spinal said:
Typical “video games have bad writing or are for nerds” meta commentary by normies, it’s rolling stone. It’s a magazine that featured Selena Gomez on the cover last month
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And yet video games are one of the largest entertainment drivers on Planet Earth. We are at least 15 years past the time when gaming was considered "nerdy".
 
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