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Forza Horizon 5: Hot Wheels Expansion is out - MS, start a new IP!

KyoZz

Tag, you're it.
Really loving the DLC, and it look AMAZING

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Kagey K

Banned
Hi all, I don't want to start a new thread, just wondered if one of you could confirm for me. Is Forza Horizon 2 available on the store ?(I bought it years ago and the Storm Island addon) but they aren't showing up in the store. I'm using Series X BTW.
Don't waste your time going to the store for games you've already bought. Go My games and Apps < Full Library and then just click the game and download it.
 

Nydius

Member
They definitely went above-and-beyond with this. FH3 Hot Wheels DLC was amazing but this is a whole level higher than that. Larger in scope and design and just better designed all around. The graphical improvements between FH3 and FH5 are a major contributing factor as well.

Just unlocked the S1 tier and flying around the course in my Lamborghini is sublime.
 

Fredrik

Member
Just unlocked the S1 tier and flying around the course in my Lamborghini is sublime.
The Centario?
That’s my favorite car in the base game, flying is the right word lol

Can’t believe the work they’ve done with this update. Only thing I miss is more Hot Wheels cars, that’s what would be needed if they turned it into a separate IP, and better music.

My kids are loving it too now, they’ve been kinda uninterested in the base game but this one catched their interest big time, reminds them of toys and thought it was easier to play with walls on the tracks.
 

CamHostage

Member
They definitely went above-and-beyond with this. FH3 Hot Wheels DLC was amazing but this is a whole level higher than that. Larger in scope and design and just better designed all around. The graphical improvements between FH3 and FH5 are a major contributing factor as well.

So, it's fun?
The graphics look phenomenal and the base gameplay control of FH5 is enjoyable, but the trailer and play videos made it seem a little simple and limited in actual gameplay (wide tracks, mostly on the plastic course despite the wild exteriors, automatic "magnetized" physics,) I kind of got the vibe of a great tech demo or motion simulator off of it more than than full-on game with challenge and technique. Am I super wrong about that? (Never played FH3 Hot Wheels; I also haven't played Hot Wheels Unleashed and that seems like it's a little dry too at times but the vehicle density and track obstacles made sense to me what the challenge is.) Will check out more playthroughs to see what else it's driving at.
 

hlm666

Member
So, it's fun?
The graphics look phenomenal and the base gameplay control of FH5 is enjoyable, but the trailer and play videos made it seem a little simple and limited in actual gameplay (wide tracks, mostly on the plastic course despite the wild exteriors, automatic "magnetized" physics,) I kind of got the vibe of a great tech demo or motion simulator off of it more than than full-on game with challenge and technique. Am I super wrong about that? (Never played FH3 Hot Wheels; I also haven't played Hot Wheels Unleashed and that seems like it's a little dry too at times but the vehicle density and track obstacles made sense to me what the challenge is.) Will check out more playthroughs to see what else it's driving at.
I didn't enjoy fh3 hotwheels much at all. They are doing some much more interesting things with the track in this so ive actually been playing this. As for it not being hard or challenging, it's pretty much like the base game so until you get to the s class cars it isn't overly hard on expert drivatars. Once you get to the fast cars you do need to start actually braking and hitting the apexs right, it can be a little harder than the base game in that aspect because if you come in too tight you can't just cut the inside in the dirt because you hit the wall.

I'll probably finish it, but would have preferred dlc trying some else. I'm not sure what but that's not my job to work out ;) They could probably put together a pretty good wipeout type game pretty quickly with what they have here though.
 

Robb

Gold Member
It definitely looks like a lot of fun. As someone who’s not all that into racing sims I think I would have enjoyed this way more than the base game.

Shame it’s not on GamePass.
 

Lognor

Banned
It's sitting at 72 to 78 percent depending on the platform. Pretty good. My point stands about there already being a modern Hotwheels game. Tell me about how much you love it when it comes to gamepass.
You know what the OP means. We need a Hot Wheels game developed by Playground Games. They make the best racing games in the world (not even close) so imagine a full fledged Hot Wheels game developed by them. This game you posted...it probably bombed. With Playground's name on a Hot Wheels game it would sell millions. It's almost a no brainer.
 
This is not especially hot wheels related but after the latest update, does anyone else have extremely bumpy cameras? Specifically in cockpit, dash and hood cams. I don't know if it's a suspension bug or a camera bug, but it makes driving in the said cameras really difficult.
 

CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Playground has to be the greatest studio of all-time. I HATE driving games. Playground changed that for me with FH5 and now this looks even better and unbelievably fun.

My nephews were PlayStation and Switch players until they discovered Forza Horizon now they're Xbox/PC.
 

anthony2690

Banned
You know what the OP means. We need a Hot Wheels game developed by Playground Games. They make the best racing games in the world (not even close) so imagine a full fledged Hot Wheels game developed by them. This game you posted...it probably bombed. With Playground's name on a Hot Wheels game it would sell millions. It's almost a no brainer.
Hot Wheels Unleashed sold over a million very quickly and became Milestone's best/fastest selling game ever.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ga...shed-is-milestones-fastestselling-title-ever/

We can enjoy Forza Horizon 5 Hot Wheels expansion without crapping on another Hot Wheels licensed game you know.

The game is genuinely great & I highly recommend people purchase it whilst it is £15.99 on this ultimate sale too.



They are both excellent experiences.

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Absolutely loved the expansion, easily the best expansion Playground games has put out.
 
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Fredrik

Member
GG but the wow factor is not there if you already played FH3 Hot Wheels expansion.

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It is for me, I’ve played both but Hot Wheels in FH5 is much better, much crazier tracks, new track types, and more variety from the biomes.

I think they should’ve skipped the A class cars though, that’s my main complaint, it feels too slow until you’ve progressed a bit.
 

anthony2690

Banned
It is for me, I’ve played both but Hot Wheels in FH5 is much better, much crazier tracks, new track types, and more variety from the biomes.

I think they should’ve skipped the A class cars though, that’s my main complaint, it feels too slow until you’ve progressed a bit.
I thought the opening race alone in FH5 HW was leagues better than the whole off FH3 Hot Wheels expansion in all honesty.
 

Goalus

Member
Hot Wheels Unleashed sold over a million very quickly and became Milestone's best/fastest selling game ever
Milestone, aka the people who made Screamer? It wouldn't surprise me that it is good then. I have fond memories of their early games, they also made 'Racing Evoluzione' on OG Xbox.
 
Hey amigo! Have you heard about Papa Fernando, Superstar? Come meet his familia, they are loco!

Someone got paid to write this shit. I cringe every time. Can't imagine how Spanish speaking people feel hearing that drivel.
Forza is a great game, but I fucking loathe the vibe of the characters.

Everyone is cheery and wants to be your friend to a seriously cringy fault
 

MidGenRefresh

*Refreshes biennially
I think the Lego one and the new hot wheels one are leagues above the other expansions, that I never went back too after completing.

But the Lego one and this one I really enjoy driving around & I'm sure I'll revisit.

Obviously everyone likes different things.

This new Hot Wheels DLC is probably better than the old one, it would only make sense. But to say that the opening race alone is better than the entire previous DLC is just silly. The opening race is not even a race. You don't race against anything. It's just there for spectacle. You don't even need to break once to finish it.

I need to play more but so far it seems like FH3 Hot Wheels but turned to 11. That's why I said that the wow factor is not there, at least for me. Also. FH3 Hot Wheels > FH4 LEGO, it's not even up for discussion.
 
It wasn't always like that. We all know why this is happening.
I've only played 4 and 5, why is it happening? Is motorsport the same way? (serious question idk)

Honestly my assumption is that they are just quadrupling down on it being a cheesy arcade racer available for kids
 

Fredrik

Member
That's probably a portion tbh, but I think the larger one is that they are quite literally casting the widest net possible, I think appealing to children is the larger issue
It’s not that easy for children tbh, mine are playing it and they’re going like ping pong balls between the walls and use the rewind mechanic for every other turn.

I think they’re just trying to have some fun really, to be more positive. It’s like Miles Morales, everybody is happy there too. I kinda like it. But the Neeeed for Geeees line at the intro race makes me want to mute the sound lol
 
It’s not that easy for children tbh, mine are playing it and they’re going like ping pong balls between the walls and use the rewind mechanic for every other turn.

I think they’re just trying to have some fun really, to be more positive. It’s like Miles Morales, everybody is happy there too. I kinda like it. But the Neeeed for Geeees line at the intro race makes me want to mute the sound lol
I wasn't particularly referring to the gameplay, but I see what you mean.

Miles morales definitely does it too, but it feels a lot more organic, forza definitely feels try hard lol. Don't get me wrong I still love the game, but I shouldn't have to cringe quite literally near every "story" moment, if you know what I mean.

I don't know if motorsport has any sort of overarching story kind of beat as I haven't played any, but if it does, I certainly hope it's tuned way, way down lol
 

twilo99

Member
It definitely looks like a lot of fun. As someone who’s not all that into racing sims I think I would have enjoyed this way more than the base game.

Shame it’s not on GamePass.

Yeah... what are the chances that it will be on game pass at some point?
 

Fredrik

Member
I wasn't particularly referring to the gameplay, but I see what you mean.

Miles morales definitely does it too, but it feels a lot more organic, forza definitely feels try hard lol. Don't get me wrong I still love the game, but I shouldn't have to cringe quite literally near every "story" moment, if you know what I mean.

I don't know if motorsport has any sort of overarching story kind of beat as I haven't played any, but if it does, I certainly hope it's tuned way, way down lol
The hobby is usually so dark and depressing so I don’t mind it when someone tries to add a more positive vibe. But I get what you’re saying, they’re definitely pushing it.

Motorsport is more serious, no story or character or anything like that there, it’s just cars.
 
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Goalus

Member
I've only played 4 and 5, why is it happening? Is motorsport the same way? (serious question idk)

Honestly my assumption is that they are just quadrupling down on it being a cheesy arcade racer available for kids
Funnily what you are describing started to become prominent with FH4. FH1 was criticised for sexism iirc (by some ultra-woke critics at least, and this was 2012!), FH2 just felt like a really beautiful vacation, and FH3 was pretty neutral in this regard too. You might be spot on with your assumption.
 

Fredrik

Member
Played a lil bit. Same old shit. This makes you guys go wow? You barely have to turn or steer. Track design is horrible.
Increase the difficulty if it’s too easy, it should suggest it for you if you keep winning even when you hit walls. When it’s right you should have to play like old school Ridge Racer, perfect turns every time and some bastard number 1 driving as if he’s locked to a
railroad track that you might pass at the final lap if you don’t mess up.
 

jaysius

Banned
Then they'd have to give it away 'free' with Gamepass (which I presume is not the case with this DLC?)
The entire point of Forza Horizon is being a husk to fill with DLC it’s full of toxic microtransactions, with shitty rewards for leveling up as a “wheel spin” gambling mechanic, with races that getting first place in is barely more rewarded than finishing in any place.

FH 1 was amazing,had a completely different feel, and a real sense of progression, cars all felt different to drive, they dropped all that in 2 onwards.

FH series is all about the dlc and mtx.
 
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