Daneel Elijah
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RIP.
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Shinzo Abe: Japan ex-PM injured after reported gunshot attack [Update: RIP]
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Razvedka
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If I recall, it's because Abe was something of a nationalist, militarist, and historical revisionist. He downplayed a lot of the awful things the Japanese did in WW2. Korean comfort women, POW abuse, genocide, etc and so on.
So if there are US people shrugging their shoulders or celebrating his death they're probably doing it for reasons similar to the Chinese.
Note: I'm just giving my guess here, that's all this post is.
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That's what happens when an entire populace is subjected to non stop anti Japanese propaganda, which is what the Chinese government wants, an enemy. I just laugh when it makes the CCP look bad in ways like this.
Lady Jane
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Those sentences are redundant
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I see what you mean.
That just seems weird. I could understand if it was an American Iraqi person making the comment.
Tams
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That's my point. They'll be shocked and...
I reckon we'll a few very deep bows, a lot of talk about what could be done, talk about what should be done, discussion about if it will be done, several iterations of meetings to decide about the next meeting on it, and then ultimately... nothing.
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Lady Jane
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China and the US-left does not care about Japan's previous war crimes. They hate Abe because he has nationalistic (or not generally US-left) views and they use everything else to justify that hate. This is the same side of politics that will try to silence you if you bring up Obama's 90% of drone causalities were civilians or beat around the bush when you bring up China's concentration camps. Make no mistake, they do no care about war crimes. They cherry pick issues to character assassinate political opponents.
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LQX
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Crazy, especially being that he was shot, so I wonder if this dude had foreign help.
I really don't think much of the US follows or cares about Japanese politics enough to hate this man or celebrate his assassination.
I really don't think much of the US follows or cares about Japanese politics enough to hate this man or celebrate his assassination.
InfiniteCombo
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RIP Mr. Abe. My condolences to his loved ones, and to the Japanese people in general. This has got to be the highest profile political assassination in... probably many years.
I wonder what Japan's capital punishment laws are, and if the perpetrator of this terrorist act is going to get the death penalty.
I wonder what Japan's capital punishment laws are, and if the perpetrator of this terrorist act is going to get the death penalty.
Insane Metal
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Holy shit that security absolutely SUCKS what the fuck.
ChuckeRearmed
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Well, nobody expected for there to be a shooter. However it is crazy that there was not a single guard behind him.
PuppetMaster
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Lol. Compared to where?
Porcile
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Yeah they definitely had the chance to push Abe out of the way or get in front of him, but either way someone was going to get hit if the shooter was still able to let off a second round (which he never should have been able to clearly.) Overall a very unfortunate series of calamitous events and mistakes right there. Damn.
DeepEnigma
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The help was probably his shitty security detail.
Porcile
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I'm not comparing to anywhere. Japan has violent crime. I live here. Even a couple months ago I wasn't allowed to leave my workplace because some woman stabbed her boyfriend and was running around the neighborhood with a kitchen knife.
Robot Carnival
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I'm not going to comment on his work within Japan since I'm not familiar with it for the most part. but, as someone with Chinese heritage, I have to say that Abe's denial on WWII war crimes from the Japanese forces definitely rubs me the wrong way. still, getting kill by a homemade blunderbuss is definitely not something that should happen to just anyone. hopefully he didn't suffer too much at least.
I've only read about the motive being that the perpetrator dislike Abe but apparently he said it's not political? wonder what's the reason for a former JDF Navy member to make a shotgun himself to shoot the former PM of the country?
I've only read about the motive being that the perpetrator dislike Abe but apparently he said it's not political? wonder what's the reason for a former JDF Navy member to make a shotgun himself to shoot the former PM of the country?
winjer
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Just because a violent crime happened near you, doesn't mean Japan is not one of the safest places on earth.
Kagoshima_Luke
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Of course they have have violent crime. Everywhere does. The point is they have far less violent crime then almost every other country in the world, so is comparatively safer.
Note: I lived in Japan for about 10 years.
Punished Miku
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I went to Nara once and it was lovely. Was there an entire day and didn't get stabbed. Even the deer didn't mess with me.
Gp1
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It's all about the sensation of security.
Remembering another part of Abe legacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abenomics
And of course...
He must have learnt that from his NATO buddies.
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sCHOCOLATE
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"At a press conference Prime Minister Fumio Kishida said Abe was in a critical condition (as of 14:56 JST) and that "currently doctors are doing everything they can, at this moment."
"He was critically wounded, showing no vital signs and was in cardiopulmonary arrest, then has been confirmed dead before 6 pm JST."
Assassination of Shinzo Abe - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The Shooting captured live
person of interest / alledged perpetrator.
Hadn't seen the video from that perspective. Christ, there was so much delay between shots, you would think someone from Abe's security detail could have tackled Abe onto the ground to protect him. The Japanese inquiry on this outcome will be interesting. RIP Shin-chan (repectfully, Abe Shinzo).
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sCHOCOLATE
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As another member posted, the "peaceful" narrative is inaccurate, if not wholly false.
Follow any of Japan Today, Japan Times, or other Japan (English) news sites for a week and you will get a clearer picture of reality.
Wherever we humans congregate, there will always be the potential for violence and death. Regardless of gender/sex, skin colour, religious belief, language spoken or culture.
chromhound
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what kind of weapon was he using wtf ?
rip
rip
Droxcy
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It was a double barrel type weapon so he didn't need to reload first shot was most likely just distance etc.
Shame no way to go out regardless if you agree with his politics or not. This is why any form of secret service should instantly act doesn't matter how safe your country is. 2-3 guys should get on the VIP and either surround him and extract him and the rest swarm the threat.
Also looks like the bullet hit the collarbone area and probably shattered and pieces hit his heart would be my guess.
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Gp1
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Of what? Japan still is one of the most secure countries in the world from the sensation or the statical POV.
Which doesn't mean that crime is inexistent there.
Pejo
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chromhound
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Pejo
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Man I feel bad for laughing, but... C'mon Greece.
YukiOnna
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It was handmade and taped together. It's evident security never expected something like that, so it made it easy for the guy to just walk up and fire two shots.
winjer
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And despite all you can say, it's still a fact that Japan is one of the safest countries in the world.
Aggelos
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Edit: beaten to the punch.
Guys, you're not going to believe this. Greek TV channel ANT1, flashed a couple of Hideo Kojima photos as the alleged killer of ex-PM Shinzo Abe.
Go at 1:44
ANT1 - Wikipedia
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Cyberpunkd
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Robot Carnival
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another angle of the gun. seems like it's not something 3D printed. just something put together with parts bought from hardware store.
also, seems like some Iranian news just went "they all look the same" and just put some pictures of Kojima wearing communist stuff to pass it as the shooter's. and then some French politician picked it up and start blaming the left or something.
also, seems like some Iranian news just went "they all look the same" and just put some pictures of Kojima wearing communist stuff to pass it as the shooter's. and then some French politician picked it up and start blaming the left or something.
Gp1
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killatopak
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Did that really air on a news channel?
What are their standards for research sheesh.
I thought only games journalist rush to release any news instead of accurate news. Sad to see this is also true on a national level.
What are their standards for research sheesh.
I thought only games journalist rush to release any news instead of accurate news. Sad to see this is also true on a national level.
Aggelos
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DeepEnigma
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Edit: beaten to the punch.
Guys, you're not going to believe this. Greek TV channel ANT1, flashed a couple of Hideo Kojima photos as the alleged killer of ex-PM Shinzo Abe.
Go at 1:44
ANT1 - Wikipedia
another angle of the gun. seems like it's not something 3D printed. just something put together with parts bought from hardware store.
also, seems like some Iranian news just went "they all look the same" and just put some pictures of Kojima wearing communist stuff to pass it as the shooter's. and then some French politician picked it up and start blaming the left or something.
This had to be some 4chan bait they fell for... it has to be.
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sCHOCOLATE
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Despite?
I've visited Japan six times over the last 22 years visiting friends I've known for as long.
I've used train, shinkansen, rental car and domestic flights to see as much of Hokkaido, the Tohoku, Kanto and Kansai regions, Shikoku, Kyushu and Okinawa as possible.
Fortunately, I never witnessed or experienced any violent activity first-hand.
I wouldn't hesitate to visit Japan again.
But...human beings, including Japanese, are human beings.
Some shoot to kill.
Some commit arson, setting fire to animation studios. Some abandon just-born babies (quite literally) in public toilets. Some interfere with underage children.
Some steal women's undergarments for kicks.
That last one is a notoriously, and regrettably still active, Japanese trait.
Japan is a safe country, but the all encompassing "peaceful" narrative is inaccurate.
winjer
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You still don't understand that the statement that "Japan is one of the safest countries on the world", does not mean it is without crime.
sCHOCOLATE
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I'm Canadian. I've visited the States many times and Japan several times. I understand the context of your statement just fine.
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