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Jim Ryan and Playstation must be sued for misleading PS5 buyer

sircaw

Banned
I really don't get all this negativity about PlayStation games going to the pc.

Chances are, your going to have to wait on PC the majority of time for sony games to show up, sometimes over a year to play said exclusive games.
By the time the game has gone to PC, most of the people that wanted to play it have and moved on to the next game, why are you wanting to stop other people from playing sony's masterpieces?

People on PC are still going to have to pay full price when it gets to them, that's more money for Sony.
More money for sony means they can invest in more studios, making more of the games we love to play

Does some guy on PC really affect you a year after you have finished God of war, uninstalled it and moved on to something new?

They are still PlayStation games, under the logo, they are not valves, Xbox or Nintendo....


How does this give you sleepless nights?

I really love Sony stuff but this Stuart little shizzle needs to stop.
 
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Swift_Star

Banned
MS not need to sell console hardware. Sony have to. Again from a customer perspective is great play ps games on PC. But I'm not that sure it's a brilliant move for the future of next consoles not have no more exclusives to count.
you all have to understand that console, pc and mobile markets don’t overlap.
 
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//DEVIL//

Member
The day MS announced Xbox games will be on PC, it's the day I sold my Xbox one back then. And the same applied for the playstation 5 after owning one for few month and the hype wore off. I can wait couple of years to play the game on PC if this means
- hardware wise, 1 system to rule them all instead of having few them . In this case it's the PC.
- not to worry about backward compatibility issues ever
- software wise, all games to own under 1 platform.
- will always perform better than any console . The more advanced hardware you have the better.
- community mods in some games if needed.

Honestly it's not even close at this point. If you can save some money to own a PC. Its more than enough.

Hell you can even play switch games 4k 60 frames on PC. Just buy the game and dump it.
 

Guilty_AI

Member

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kyliethicc

Member
I really don't get all this negativity about PlayStation games going to the pc.

Chances are, your going to have to wait on PC the majority of time for sony games to show up, sometimes over a year to play said exclusive games.
By the time the game has gone to PC, most of the people that wanted to play it have and played it, why are you wanting to stop other people play sony's masterpieces?

People on PC are still going to have to pay full price when it gets to them, that's more money for Sony.
More money for sony means they can invest in more studios, making more of the games we love to play

Does some guy on PC really affect you a year after you have finished God of war, uninstalled it and moved on to something new?

They are still PlayStation games, under the logo, they are not valves, Xbox or Nintendo....


How does this give you sleepless nights?

I really love Sony stuff but this Stuart little shizzle needs to stop.
Agreed. Plus Knack remains a full PlayStation exclusive "lollipop_disappointed:
 
The day MS announced Xbox games will be on PC, it's the day I sold my Xbox one back then. And the same applied for the playstation 5 after owning one for few month and the hype wore off. I can wait couple of years to play the game on PC if this means
- hardware wise, 1 system to rule them all instead of having few them . In this case it's the PC.
- not to worry about backward compatibility issues ever
- software wise, all games to own under 1 platform.
- will always perform better than any console . The more advanced hardware you have the better.
- community mods in some games if needed.

Honestly it's not even close at this point. If you can save some money to own a PC. Its more than enough.

Hell you can even play switch games 4k 60 frames on PC. Just buy the game and dump it.
Is this post a parody of something?
 
Giving preference to their own platform and ecosystem is a valid reason not to release day one on PC. I hope they get to day one releases on PC (along with trophy support), but I can certainly understand why they would want to favor their own platform first.
Unfortunately, the war in Ukraine and above all the semiconductor crisis has highlighted the business risk of the world of consoles. We must understand that companies like Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are here on the market because they are primarily interested in selling software. Obviously, as long as they could have the privilege of keeping users inside their walled garden, they did, but this era has come to an end and we have to get used to the idea that sony like microsoft will treat exclusives and their hardware in a manner different from the past.
 

assurdum

Banned
Lmfao. That's bullshit. Microsoft is on "I never liked her anyway" mode. Greenberg is bragging about vgchartz. They tell you they don't want because their numbers look terrible compared to the competition
Of course they have to sell hardware. But you are naive if you think hardware sales is their priority as Sony playstation.
 

Topher

Gold Member
Unfortunately, the war in Ukraine and above all the semiconductor crisis has highlighted the business risk of the world of consoles. We must understand that companies like Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are here on the market because they are primarily interested in selling software. Obviously, as long as they could have the privilege of keeping users inside their walled garden, they did, but this era has come to an end and we have to get used to the idea that sony like microsoft will treat exclusives and their hardware in a manner different from the past.

None of which necessitates day one releases on PC. I think every PS game going forward will be a timed exclusive on PS.
 
All those games were only on PS at the time of release.

If your argument is that your assumed "forever" while never stated by Sony was somehow implied (based on nothing), then I'd love to see how far you get with this lawsuit.

Just prepared to have to give up your children's trust fund in legal fees.
 
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Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
And what tremendous job Jim Ryan did that all the previouses CEO didn't?

12 Live Service games by 2026.
Live Service Center for Excellence
A+ on acquisitions and partnerships.
Supporting the Marvel + Insomniac pipeline.
Targetting PC + Mobile future.
Telling employees to respect people with opposing viewpoints.

Guy is crushing it. GOAT status achieved.
 

assurdum

Banned
Telling employees to respect people with opposing viewpoints.

Guy is crushing it. GOAT status achieved.
This is pure good.
Cracking Up Reaction GIF by MOODMAN

Are you his PR or what? Telling to the people to not express their opinion it's respect the other opinion? Are you fucking serious?
 
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SLB1904

Banned
Of course they have to sell hardware. But you are naive if you think hardware sales is their priority as Sony playstation.
Yes they are. You are naive to think otherwise.
If wasn't priority they wouldn't pay for priority chips.
There isn't even a debate to be add to it.
Only fools think otherwise.
You are selling a 500 dollars product mate. That's a billion dollar business right there.
 

Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
I guess the difference here is that I disagree with your opinion that PS4 was mediocre. I'll leave it at that.

I'm not talking about personal preferences.

The PS4 should have positioned Sony for 2022 - 2027 better than it did.

People love the PS4 but leadership didn't leverage its future impact near well enough.
 

assurdum

Banned
Yes they are. You are naive to think otherwise.
If wasn't priority they wouldn't pay for priority chips.
There isn't even a debate to be add to it.
Only fools think otherwise.
You are selling a 500 dollars product mate. That's a billion dollar business right there.
Mmm. Sure. Lets talk about the big revenues of xbox one X.
Playstation 5 has the best launch line up than any playstatio before it by a mile.
Uh no?
 
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SLB1904

Banned
So why Nintendo not release their games on pc?
It's a natter of time mate.
People always say the same thing about Nintendo

"They don't release dlc"
" they don't charge for online"
" no mobile"

When you reach is higher than ever is hard to ignore.

Playstation games are selling better than ever. And with the social media era more people are getting reach. And there is the Chinese Market as well.

Don't get me wrong, I understand what people are trying to gate keep but the market is too big to ignore.

What playstation had better launch line up than 5?
 
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HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
I really don't get all this negativity about PlayStation games going to the pc.

Chances are, your going to have to wait on PC the majority of time for sony games to show up, sometimes over a year to play said exclusive games.
By the time the game has gone to PC, most of the people that wanted to play it have and moved on to the next game, why are you wanting to stop other people from playing sony's masterpieces?

People on PC are still going to have to pay full price when it gets to them, that's more money for Sony.
More money for sony means they can invest in more studios, making more of the games we love to play

Does some guy on PC really affect you a year after you have finished God of war, uninstalled it and moved on to something new?

They are still PlayStation games, under the logo, they are not valves, Xbox or Nintendo....


How does this give you sleepless nights?

I really love Sony stuff but this Stuart little shizzle needs to stop.
I don't get the problem either as to me the more gamers playing the better

People really going to lose their shit when day and date starts happening and it will start happening
 

assurdum

Banned
It's a natter of time mate.
People always say the same thing about Nintendo

"They don't release dlc"
" they don't charge for online"
" no mobile"

When you reach is higher than ever is hard to ignore.

Playstation games are selling better than ever. And with the social media era more people are getting reach. And there is the Chinese Market as well.

Don't get me wrong, I understand what people are trying to gate keep but the market is too big to ignore.
Again I just said it's a dangerous move and can impact the hardware sales. Nothing more. I'm more in line with the Layden "philosophy" and I'm not convinced to the Ryan lead. The supposed playstation live service seem a mix bag of unsureness and unclear perspective of what should be. Something he did because he have to.
 
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winjer

Gold Member
Yes they are. You are naive to think otherwise.
If wasn't priority they wouldn't pay for priority chips.
There isn't even a debate to be add to it.
Only fools think otherwise.
You are selling a 500 dollars product mate. That's a billion dollar business right there.

Sony is not paying for priority chips. Sony is buying 7nm chips.
The one who is buying top end node is Apple, who bought all of TSMC's 5nm production in 2020.
Sony might start buying 6nm chips soon. But this is at a time when TSMC is transitioning to 3nm, again with Apple being the main buyer. Intel has also bought some part of the 3nm production allocation.
 

SLB1904

Banned
Again I just said it's a dangerous and can impact the hardware sales. Nothing more.
It won't. Trust me on that. People will lose their shit as soon as the next spiderman 2 is coming out or whatever Sony is doing.
Spiderman is a 4 year old game. The sales will slow down. Playstation success is hard to ignore. Why are we mad retural might be coming to PC?
The game probably sold over a 1mil copies a gem like that?
Deserves more sales Housemarque deserves more success. Playstation needs more money. More blockbusters. People don't care they just want great games.
 

Kilau

Member
Yeah, That’s not how this works. You don’t devalue your product by raising its price.
Yes actually you can. You can price customers out of the market, lose money and devalue your product. You are arguing a completely separate point though, I never brought up the price, you did.
 

assurdum

Banned
It won't. Trust me on that. People will lose their shit as soon as the next spiderman 2 is coming out or whatever Sony is doing.
Spiderman is a 4 year old game. The sales will slow down. Playstation success is hard to ignore. Why are we mad retural might be coming to PC?
The game probably sold over a 1mil copies a gem like that?
Deserves more sales Housemarque deserves more success. Playstation needs more money. More blockbusters. People don't care they just want great games.
It will. Could be significant or irrelevant. But again I don't like a single thing what Ryan do with this lead, so. As the stupid Bungie acquisition. I mean not for such ridiculous price.
 
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SLB1904

Banned
acted intransparent- that’s all there is to it.
They didn't. And that's nonsense. The picture is 4 or 5 years old. Why none of you are selling your ps5? Shit still valuable.
All you guys gonna do is bitch and buy gow day one

It will. Could be significant or irrelevant. But again I don't like a single thing what Ryan do with this lead, so.
Ryan is a pragmatic dude. Is making loads of money while giving you loads of great games to play. Enjoy the games man. Who cares if the games might come to PC or not. You are not the one waiting
 
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sircaw

Banned
I don't get the problem either as to me the more gamers playing the better

People really going to lose their shit when day and date starts happening and it will start happening
It's a strange type of loyalty.

At the end of the day, are people in it for the games or for the piece of hardware.

I love PlayStation for their games, but i also love sitting back on the couch with a controller, its simplicity at its finest.

Even if I had the money to buy the most expensive PC rig, i would still prefer to play on the console.
 

Darius87

Member
That's not true at all. The PC was all their main development machines anyway. The PS5's SSD can pass data to the GPU faster than the GPU can render the pixels. I don't think you have anything to worry about there.
why then PS5 has 16GB of RAM?
 

Shmunter

Member
That's not true at all. The PC was all their main development machines anyway. The PS5's SSD can pass data to the GPU faster than the GPU can render the pixels. I don't think you have anything to worry about there.
Bwahahaha. 20gig/s is faster than the GPU can render!!!

You heard it here first, the height of technical prowess,

Sony needs to strip the wasteful 400gig/s RAM asap and make the console cheaper.
 
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