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Gameplay wise, which era/generation of Assassin's Creed games you do prefer?
LectureMaster
Member
Syndicate is the classic system at its finest. The grappling hook addition was very fun as well.
Also, Valhalla should not technically be categorized with the previous two. The combat and gear systems changed a lot. It's enjoyable.
Also, Valhalla should not technically be categorized with the previous two. The combat and gear systems changed a lot. It's enjoyable.
trikster40
Member
I actually prefer the Origins/Odysey/Valhalla formula but I wish they’d cut out all of the typical Ubi bullshit from their game just to pad the hours.
thegame983
Member
Origins/ Odyssey.
Do not lump Valhalla in with those two gems
Do not lump Valhalla in with those two gems
thegame983
Member
100% correct on all counts. Enshrine this comment.
Hey Blinkin
Member
Black Flag is still my favorite Assassin's Creed experience, but I prefer the game play style of Valhalla.
Facing down rogue waves and battling legendary ships was great fun for me. It's also the last AC I actually had the desire to finish despite enjoying the game play improvements of each new game in the series.
I would love more AC like that with Valhalla style game play.
Facing down rogue waves and battling legendary ships was great fun for me. It's also the last AC I actually had the desire to finish despite enjoying the game play improvements of each new game in the series.
I would love more AC like that with Valhalla style game play.
Larxia
Member
I'm a bit conflicted, I like many of them from the different eras for different reasons, but most importantly, I'm not sure what I exactly think about Black Flag anymore.
While I don't particularly want the loot based system in Odyssey, the freedom in that game was absolutely fantastic and it really improved on Black Flag on that point.
Black Flag used to be my favorite with 2, but even back then I was frustrated that you didn't have a total seamless freedom, most of the islands are fake and you can't land on them, and the big ones have loading transitions to get to them, so it's not particularly immersive either.
Once you are on these islands, the freedom is also quite limited because you have different boundaries everywhere, which is fine, not all games need to be 100% open I understand it, but I really wanted more exploration in this game, being able to explore some desert islands, jungles etc, it would really fit the theme and I think it was a bit lacking on that point.
Odyssey on the other hand... 100% total freedom. You can take your boat and go to ANY island you can see, even stuff super far in the ocean. You will never have any loading, everything is seamless, you can land everywhere, you can swim underwater everywhere, you can climb anything, any moutain, there's almost no limit, it's incredibly satisfying and enjoyable, and it reminded me of what I was dreaming for Black Flag before it came out.
The only negative for exploration in Odyssey that frustrated me is that for some reason they don't allow you to explore with the little boat, sometimes you have 2 islands really close to each other but you can't travel between each with the little boat, it will sink automatically, it's useless, so you have to go to the big one which makes it more tedious, especially since I don't see a reason for this limit.
So I guess the ideal would be a sequel to Black Flag, but with the same freedom as Odyssey. Big scale pirate game with immense freedom of exploration, but with less content bloat.
While I don't particularly want the loot based system in Odyssey, the freedom in that game was absolutely fantastic and it really improved on Black Flag on that point.
Black Flag used to be my favorite with 2, but even back then I was frustrated that you didn't have a total seamless freedom, most of the islands are fake and you can't land on them, and the big ones have loading transitions to get to them, so it's not particularly immersive either.
Once you are on these islands, the freedom is also quite limited because you have different boundaries everywhere, which is fine, not all games need to be 100% open I understand it, but I really wanted more exploration in this game, being able to explore some desert islands, jungles etc, it would really fit the theme and I think it was a bit lacking on that point.
Odyssey on the other hand... 100% total freedom. You can take your boat and go to ANY island you can see, even stuff super far in the ocean. You will never have any loading, everything is seamless, you can land everywhere, you can swim underwater everywhere, you can climb anything, any moutain, there's almost no limit, it's incredibly satisfying and enjoyable, and it reminded me of what I was dreaming for Black Flag before it came out.
The only negative for exploration in Odyssey that frustrated me is that for some reason they don't allow you to explore with the little boat, sometimes you have 2 islands really close to each other but you can't travel between each with the little boat, it will sink automatically, it's useless, so you have to go to the big one which makes it more tedious, especially since I don't see a reason for this limit.
So I guess the ideal would be a sequel to Black Flag, but with the same freedom as Odyssey. Big scale pirate game with immense freedom of exploration, but with less content bloat.
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SpongebobSquaredance
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The Sands of Time era.
Has to be 2. It improved upon almost every aspect of the first and it's an enjoyable game, however, the next one already gave me franchise fatigue and it didn't get much better from there
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EDMIX
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Truth. I was really hype to get it around launch and never did. Got it years later and was surprised to see it wasn't as bad as people kept making it out to be
I hope it gets a remaster though to correct those issues, put in better frames, resolution etc. I love the setting of that title.
In terms of my favorite era of AC, hard to say. I like some in each and I didn't play Valhalla yet to really tell if I like ALL the light open world RPG ones, for all I know I just end up liking Origin and Odyssey a lot lol
ShaikhCroft
Member
Ezio trilogy, specially Brotherhood!
Spaceman292
Banned
The parkour animations were a little fucked up but it felt the best. But the combat sucked.
Braag
Member
I very much hope that the series goes back to its roots into a large urban environment without all the RPG mechanics with a smaller yet more focused scope.
Valhalla was such a drag that once I finally forced myself to finish it, I felt like I'm done with the series until they change it drastically again.
The RPG mechanics are also incredibly pointless... in Valhalla when I started the game at lv. 1 when I attacked a normal grunt enemy it took me 3 strikes with the axe to kill him. As I progressed and was at lv.100+ with end game gear and had upgraded my axe and gear to max level guess how many axe strikes it took me to kill a normal grunt enemy, 3 strikes with the axe. Amazing RPG mechanics.
Unity combat was slightly janky but it was also the most challenging because it didn't rely completely on riposte but finding openings and dodging gunfire. I died more in that game than all the other AC games combined. I'd argue it was one of the better combat mechanics if they just fine tuned it a little bit without making Arno too OP.
Valhalla was such a drag that once I finally forced myself to finish it, I felt like I'm done with the series until they change it drastically again.
The RPG mechanics are also incredibly pointless... in Valhalla when I started the game at lv. 1 when I attacked a normal grunt enemy it took me 3 strikes with the axe to kill him. As I progressed and was at lv.100+ with end game gear and had upgraded my axe and gear to max level guess how many axe strikes it took me to kill a normal grunt enemy, 3 strikes with the axe. Amazing RPG mechanics.
Unity combat was slightly janky but it was also the most challenging because it didn't rely completely on riposte but finding openings and dodging gunfire. I died more in that game than all the other AC games combined. I'd argue it was one of the better combat mechanics if they just fine tuned it a little bit without making Arno too OP.
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TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
The new guard. Valhalla may be a bit excessive, but I had a good time with Odyssey and I legit think Origins is a fantastic game, even outside of the Assassin's Creed confines. Origins, Ezio trilogy, and Black Flag are definitely the AC standouts.
Gandih42
Member
Really liked the original (for its ambition and scope at the time) and the 2nd (for massive improvements on the original formula). Of the new ones I've only played Odyssey and really liked that too, although for very different reasons. Overall my vote goes to the Ezio trilogy, for me it was the perfect synthesis of what they could do at the time and how well they achieved it. Plus Ezio is so god damn lovable.
Rockondevil
Member
Definitely the Ezio era for me. I loved Ezio and I, though probably one of the few, liked Desmonds story too.
sobaka770
Banned
It's a tough one... I really liked AC2 era but it would feel dated now, especially the one-trick combat and the slowness of it all.
I'm going with Unity just for parcour and somewhat interesting combat. It's not perfect but going back it still holds up and the games actually get to stop before it gets boring after 30-40 hours.
Modern AC has ok combat but no interesting parcour, going for large open world instead which - to me - is a step in a wrong direction. Especially with 100+ hour of repetitiveness, I've had enough of it.
I'm going with Unity just for parcour and somewhat interesting combat. It's not perfect but going back it still holds up and the games actually get to stop before it gets boring after 30-40 hours.
Modern AC has ok combat but no interesting parcour, going for large open world instead which - to me - is a step in a wrong direction. Especially with 100+ hour of repetitiveness, I've had enough of it.
Despiralman69
Member
Played quite afew assassin creeds while in lockdown, thoght id give the franchise another chance since i stopped playing after black flag, personally i found unity and origins to be the best in the series, probably would of been revelations if i played it at the time, i found unity to be incredibly under rated but i never did any of the side missions because ubi through a ridiculous amount to that game, dlc was abit shite though
Portugeezer
Member
Between AC2, Black Flag, and Origins.
AC2 probably the best one.
AC2 probably the best one.
Laptop1991
Member
Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla, the last one was a bit disappointing in the end, i still enjoyed it though, the 3 open world games are my preferences,
I only played AC 2, Brotherhood and Revelations 2 years ago, so i don't have any memories from when they were new, they are still really good games though.
I only played AC 2, Brotherhood and Revelations 2 years ago, so i don't have any memories from when they were new, they are still really good games though.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
Yeah that was a common complaint from people who were bad
balls of snow
Member
Syndicate (and ac 3 I guess) has the best multikills. Seriously the combat was underated af and was incredibly well animated.
01011001
Banned
honestly, this stupid excuse should be a bannable offense on here. how the fuck can you be "bad" in a fighting system that's a fucking QTE?
guess what, the whole time I played the game I didn't die once... why? because it was a braindead shitshow
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
For Gameplay I voted Odyssey etc. since they have a lot of similarities of WRPGs and Cassandra and Bayek were such a great characters. I also really love AC2 and Brotherhood. Ezio is probably THE best character in all of video games and the dungeons and puzzles were quite compelling.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
Your response is trash. The million threads about the combat in unity being too hard must just be in my imagination
01011001
Banned
I don't care what casuals think is hard combat. if you think Unity is hard you should try a career in Game Journalism I guess
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
How does it feel to be so awesome? Wow you certainly are the best. Must be lonely up there all by yourself.
Enough jokes.
Do you know how opinions work?
Let me fill you in. I can like something and you don't have to. You can like something and I don't have to. None of those things makes something bad.
01011001
Banned
you came here accusing me of being too bad to find the god awful combat in Unity good... I simply told you the game's combat is braindead
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Josemayuste
Member
I felt combat to be very engaging and satisfaying, while it was a little bit button mashing, I considered it a nice evolution from previous installments, but I can understand why some people don't find it good too.
I agree with you about parkour feeling the best indeed, in fact I consider parkour in Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla even though a little bit better in some departments, a little bit worse in global. (just a little bit).
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
No no no I said your complaint was common from people who were bad at the game. I made no comments on your amazing awesomeness that never died once.you cam here accusing me of being too bad to find the god awful combat in Unity good... I simply tood you the game's combat is braindead
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Voted for the last ones but I did love Black Flag.
Kuranghi
Member
I've not played one properly since Unity, I was quite burned out on the formula by the time Syndicate came out and I played never played Origins due to the combat system. Odyssey I tried for 10-12 hours and I found aspects of it fun but the gear system/stealth was now burbo tufts after how much fun I had stealthing and slicing in Unity.
I wanted to replay Unity recently but its far too hard to run with MSAA on at 4K and achieve 60fps, this is on a 1080 but I believe even a 2080 ti wouldn't be able to do it, the game is extremely crusty so it really needs the MSAA to look good at 4K. I still think the facial animations are some of the best nearly 10 years on, Valhalla is an embarrassment in this regard, for the most part anyway. The dynamic time of day system makes them look so shit so much of the time, the best ones are the big story ones or where the event happens at a specific time of day and it jumps to that time.
I wanted to replay Unity recently but its far too hard to run with MSAA on at 4K and achieve 60fps, this is on a 1080 but I believe even a 2080 ti wouldn't be able to do it, the game is extremely crusty so it really needs the MSAA to look good at 4K. I still think the facial animations are some of the best nearly 10 years on, Valhalla is an embarrassment in this regard, for the most part anyway. The dynamic time of day system makes them look so shit so much of the time, the best ones are the big story ones or where the event happens at a specific time of day and it jumps to that time.
Fbh
Member
Voted for Black Flag because that one is my favorite game in the franchise but I think all the games in the franchise have issues.
Modern has the best melee combat but I don't like the traversal (too automatic) and at least in Odyssey the stealth sucks (even making a stealth build I'd often encounter enemies I couldn't kill with a backstab...what?)
Classic has better traversal and I like the stealth better but melee combat sucks and it relied a bit too much on things like tailing missions and repetitive "activity" based design.
Black Flag shares many of the issues of "classic" AC but overcomes them by focusing on the ship which was awesome.
Modern has the best melee combat but I don't like the traversal (too automatic) and at least in Odyssey the stealth sucks (even making a stealth build I'd often encounter enemies I couldn't kill with a backstab...what?)
Classic has better traversal and I like the stealth better but melee combat sucks and it relied a bit too much on things like tailing missions and repetitive "activity" based design.
Black Flag shares many of the issues of "classic" AC but overcomes them by focusing on the ship which was awesome.
Dr.brain64
Member
Black flag and rogue are my faves. The controls are perfect.
R6Rider
Gold Member
Decided I'm going to buy the Ezio Collection as soon as it's on sale again. I grabbed Rogue Remastered (on sale for $9 on the Xbox store).
I'll play through most of them again probably later this year, and I can see my favorites changing. Haven't played any of the Ezio entries since around launch.
I'll play through most of them again probably later this year, and I can see my favorites changing. Haven't played any of the Ezio entries since around launch.
Shadowstar39
Member
AC1 had actual challenging assassination missions, where you had to scout out your target and their movements. It also had tougher combat from what I remember. The psp spinoff Bloodlines (which probably no one here played) was also really good for a psp AC Game. It also started off with a cool premise for the animus and the astergo parts with Desmond were good story wise.
AC2 though is my all time fav. It was such a large game and Ezio had character, desmond they fleshed out too. He was relatable. The game itself always felt like you were progressing somewhere. Between the different locations and building your village/castle in Montigerno.
Haven't played brotherhood or revelations yet. I own them on steam and switch. Working on replaying ac2 on switch now.
AC 4 was fun but not a ac game. I hated the Abstergo current time crap. After they got rid of Desmond that had to go.
Now all current time/abstergo sections are just some lesbian no personality zoomer and her handler for a few minutes.. basically blocking you from the main game. They are there just to be there. Its been the same bland no name zoomer for the last 4+ games, ever since syndicate or unity i think. Black flag just had generic corporation and skipped most of real world stuff.
At least Desmond had some personality and Niles was an asshole you loved to hate.
Best protagonist was Ezio, followed by Altier(ac1) and Bayek(ac origins). The others were lacking in unique personality, The unity guy, Arlo (i don't even remember his name) was like carbon copy of Ezio in both looks and personality.
The worst character was the Aya, who betrays Bayek over vengenance and power, that she really doesn't even portray right. You never feel any emotion from her for Bayek or her son. I personally couldn't stand her.
Vahalla had the blandest characters. The female version (and most women in that game) look like skinny dudes. It really takes me out of it. Woke take over of ubisoft complete. Her voice is manly, her face is manly and her body is manly. They didn't have this problem before twitter people blasted them. sucsk as this era could of had some really jaw dropping, kick ass babes, but not what we get .
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Assassins creed 1 is overrated, the historical games work on story and do a lot of combat better.
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