Topher
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Would be interesting to see what the poll results would be if those were all included.
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Bloomberg: Microsoft will keep publishing Activision titles on PlayStation
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Would be interesting to see what the poll results would be if those were all included.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I can't speak for any mass polls, but it'd certainly elevate GP's value for me and my circle.
I might actually end up hosting a Family GP plan if/when that becomes official as well.
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Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Yup. Until current contracts run out. Then, maybe a few cash cows will stay multiplatform for up to a few years. But then those games are going to be Microsoft only. You don't buy properties to let your competition have access to them, that's not how business works.
Topher
Gold Member
If it were not for MS Rewards I'd only subscribe at times there were a game I'd want to play.
Andodalf
Banned
Well, if cod costs 70$ on PS, GPU is 5$ more expensive a month, so 60$ for a year.
Massive oof my guy. You have to have Gold/ Ps plus anyway, which costs more than the game! Might as well just get gamepass
yurinka
Member
Many PS players also have a gaming PC or a Xbox.
yurinka
Member
Why? Their market is growing: Hardware sales are supply constrained by active userbase (PSN MAU) has yearly increases and demand for hardware seems very high.
This growth could compensate the few million players they could lose if CoD goes to GP and gets console exclusive: yearly CoD games seems to be bought by around 10% or less of the PSN MAU. We're talking around 10M users or maybe less. Some of them also have a PC or Xbox, and may already have GP, so wouldn't change the userbases.
And even if 100% of them don't, and even if they would end making CoD exclusive (meaning Spencer, the MS president, Activision and MS lied to their investors and regulators, even in legal documens like the SEC filings), a important portion of these players could remain on PS playing other games, specially once they get new games by Bungie, Firewalk or Deviation. And even if those who firstly get GP due to CoD, even if it's to get it "cheaper", are you sure they would leave PS? Can't they buy competitive shooter from Sony and at the same time play CoD on GP?
They have capable teams making new IPs: Bungie who with Destiny got the best launch of a new IP record and well, made Halo, And also have two upcoming 2nd party games with former Bungie, CoD and Apex Legends key staff. And there's Guerrilla, Firesprite or London working on MP games that may be shooters as well. I think at least a couple of these projects will join the over half a dozen exclusives who sold or are in track to sell around 20M or more this generation.
I'd say if CoD would go exclusive way under 5M PS players would leave PS, maybe under 2M. Which can be compensated by the growth PS already has. So I think CoD going exclusive wouldn't affect PS hardware sales and wouldn't affect the potentital success to the Sony competitive shooters.
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Topher
Gold Member
Right. The questions are strange though as they seem to not care to drill down any further than PS gamers or Xbox gamers. Most surveys I've seen are more thorough.
remember_spinal
Banned
Love how people were celebrating the idea of call of duty (and overwatch) going exclusive to xbox when this was announced to now pivoting to gamepass day 1 being the big game changer.
In 2025 when CoD still isn’t on gamepass it will be another argument
In 2025 when CoD still isn’t on gamepass it will be another argument
Plantoid
Member
You're in for a rude awakening
remember_spinal
Banned
I bet
sircaw
Banned
Black hawk down
Topher
Gold Member
sircaw
Banned
The funny thing is, i made a post yesterday, jokingly saying, I am going to report him.
Fs, he is gonna think it's me lol
Topher
Gold Member
The funny thing is, i made a post yesterday, jokingly saying, I am going to report him.
Fs, he is gonna think it's me lol
We all know it was you. Don't make Will angry.
sircaw
Banned
and Fs, he is coming back from his ban one day after my birthday.
We all know it was you. Don't make Will angry.
I better start preparing now.
THANKS MODS
MasterCornholio
Member
and Fs, he is coming back from his ban one day after my birthday.
I better start preparing now.
THANKS MODS
Yeah he's going to put you in some salty water for sure.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Unless that IP does the twice as much money on PlayStation than on Xbox. You don't spend 70 billion on properties to cut its earnings later. They didn't do that with Minecraft. Sony will also not stop releasing Destiny properties on other platforms.
All these companies are doing is making the most money out of their properties. MS and Sony are getting quite platform agnostic right now.
Md Ray
Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Depends on when/if the deal closes. If it closes this year, MW2 will also launch on Game Pass, if it's next year, it'll be that.
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MasterCornholio
Member
Honestly I think they are doing this to fuel Gamepass more than anything else. Having those titles available day one on the service is a huge incentive to get people to join. However they can still release the games on competing platforms. The only reason why they wouldn't do this is if making them exclusive will increase their revenue.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
This years COD? It's not going to launch on game pass lmao
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Gotta love how people thinks out of the box to make anything positive about Microsoft to a negative.
"yeah, but are they true gamers, or hippie vegans who misunderstood the question tho"
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
and Fs, he is coming back from his ban one day after my birthday.
I better start preparing now.
THANKS MODS
sircaw
Banned
Haha brilliant as per usual
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah I'm not expecting the deal to close this year either.
You'll never see questions like that if it were the other way around. The door to the concern only swings one way apparently
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Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Yeah I'm not expecting the deal to close this year either.
You'll never see questions like that if it were the other way around. The door to the concern only swings one way apparently
It doesn't matter whether the deal closes this year or not. You're not going to see COD day one on game pass for at minimum until 2025
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The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Because it's their most expensive marketing deal and it should be obvious they'll want to cover their bases with subscription services.
I think that depends on how aggressive the ftc want to be other than that, it's going to be on GP.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Nothing to do with FTC demands. They won't be on GP.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Oh I don't think that's gonna be the case at all. I don't think Sony's perceived marketing agreement would prevent a day 1 game pass release.
What reason do you think it won't be on GP after the acquisition closes ?
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Topher
Gold Member
I would bet the marketing agreement covers things like Game Pass specifically. Of course, no way to be sure unless we were to see the language. We will not know for sure until the deal goes through.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Oh, yes it would. We already saw them do this with RE8. It should be a no brainer that they'll have covered their bases with their most valuable marketing deal.
Why do you all pretend to have blinders on?You'll never see questions like that if it were the other way around. The door to the concern only swings one way apparently
TheGodfather07
Member
What the fuck are you talking about? GPU costs $14.99 per month. How does that equal $60 a year?
Topher
Gold Member
We all became "insiders" when this stuff was leaked out of the Epic-Apple lawsuit.
You are correct. Here it is:
"During the term, Publisher shall not authorise, assist or encourage any third party to include the game in any Competetive Platform subscription service, including but not limited to Google Stadia Pro subscriptions, Microsoft's Xbox Live Gold, Project xCloud or Game Pass subscription service or similar Competetive Platform subscription service," it's written in the alleged contract."
Sony deal reportedly blocks Resident Evil Village's release on Xbox Game Pass
A full document that reveals a marketing deal between Sony and Capcom has been discovered in the leaked files. According to the deal, Resident Evil Village won't be coming to Game Pass at least for a full year since its launch.
www.altchar.com
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MasterCornholio
Member
Honestly I don't think comments like this add anything to the discussion. The door swings both ways here due to Gaf being host to many different communities.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Didn't know you were an insider at Microsoft. Your post history and avatar really fooled me.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
I didn't realise common sense was an insider exclusive trait
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
You are correct. Here it is:
"During the term, Publisher shall not authorise, assist or encourage any third party to include the game in any Competetive Platform subscription service, including but not limited to Google Stadia Pro subscriptions, Microsoft's Xbox Live Gold, Project xCloud or Game Pass subscription service or similar Competetive Platform subscription service," it's written in the alleged contract."
Sony deal reportedly blocks Resident Evil Village's release on Xbox Game Pass
A full document that reveals a marketing deal between Sony and Capcom has been discovered in the leaked files. According to the deal, Resident Evil Village won't be coming to Game Pass at least for a full year since its launch.
And i'll wager that's just a standard clause they copy n paste (w/ amendments if needed)
A handful on both sides of the blue and green temper tantrums keep it going day in and day out like it's their job to.
lack of introspection
confirmation biases
persecution complexes
We see you.
It'll sure be a shame if some of them are no longer here when all the big news starts rolling out this year.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
If you see how Jimbo is at the moment and how xbox was in the past, then you'd know how rare common sense is.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
We all became "insiders" when this stuff was leaked out of the Epic-Apple lawsuite.
You are correct. Here it is:
"During the term, Publisher shall not authorise, assist or encourage any third party to include the game in any Competetive Platform subscription service, including but not limited to Google Stadia Pro subscriptions, Microsoft's Xbox Live Gold, Project xCloud or Game Pass subscription service or similar Competetive Platform subscription service," it's written in the alleged contract."
Sony deal reportedly blocks Resident Evil Village's release on Xbox Game Pass
A full document that reveals a marketing deal between Sony and Capcom has been discovered in the leaked files. According to the deal, Resident Evil Village won't be coming to Game Pass at least for a full year since its launch.
That's one games specific contract, not a universally binding one.
We have no idea what the extent of restrictions, if any at all, on the CoD deals are.
We won't know this until the deal closes, until then it's a safer assumption that like all other first party games, the next one will land on game pass day 1.
A handful on both sides of the blue and green temper tantrums keep it going day in and day out like it's their job to.
lack of introspection
confirmation biases
persecution complexes
We see you.
It'll sure be a shame if some of them are no longer here when all the big news starts rolling out this year.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
It'll be universal. Hence why both Ghostwire and Deathloop also aren't on PC Gamepass
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That's not really the same case IMO. They were never on any platform where Xbox/Game Pass was in the first place. CoD is not timed exclusive to any one platform. Nor, unlike Village, either platform holder bought the publisher before the game released.
We'll see how this proceeds. But I fully expect CoD 2023 at least to be on GP day 1.
Topher
Gold Member
About as good an example as you are going to get though. I had actually forgotten about the leaks until
Ass of Can Whooping
mentioned it. Microsoft has said they are bound to honor the marketing deals in place. And frankly, I cannot imagine Sony making a deal with Activision that gives Sony sole rights to market the game and yet the game is allowed on Game Pass. That makes no sense at all if you think about it.Taking all that into consideration, I think
Ass of Can Whooping
is correct. More than likely, Call of Duty won't be on Game Pass until the marketing deal is done. Do we know for certain? No.
MasterCornholio
Member
A handful on both sides of the blue and green temper tantrums keep it going day in and day out like it's their job to.
lack of introspection
confirmation biases
persecution complexes
We see you.
It'll sure be a shame of some of them are no longer here when all the big news starts rolling out this year.
Not everyone is bad from either side. But unfortunately there are a few that can't control themselves and cause problems here. People just need to listen to their feedback and try to make improvements to their behavior.
You're right that we are still early in the year and there's still plenty of announcements to be made. Some are definitely going to lose their chance to participate in those discussions and it's a shame because sometimes they do make interesting points.
I'm not perfect myself and I do have some issues. But I always try to listen to feedback that's given to me. And I always try to show respect to others here even though I might not agree with their opinions.
Anyways I appreciate the reply. You guys deal with this on a daily basis so your definitely the experts on the situation with the communities.
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