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Genshin Impact |OT| 4.0 (Fontaine) - Je m'appelle "la baleine"

Dregnel

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Venti got a huge nerf when enemies got fat.
venti ready to fight a monster in inazuma
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crumbs

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Interesting thanks for taking time to explain stuffs. BTW do you consider Ganyu still solid without Amos.

Ganyu is pretty versatile (charged shot, skill, and burst are valuable; can be used on and off-field) and easy to build without a ton of resources. I use her charged shot, so she's got a 4 piece Wanderer's Troupe (which you should have ton of if you've been farming bosses) and the craftable Prototype Crescent bow (apparently the Inazuma craftable bow also works well on her).

I understand not liking the aimed shot play style, but Ganyu does have a lot of additional value compared to someone like Kokomi.
 
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Pejo

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Interesting thanks for taking time to explain stuffs. BTW do you consider Ganyu still solid without Amos.

I know about Venti nerf, but i still want him specially after playing his quest. Kazuha is great too, will consider about him.
Ganyu is good no matter which weapon you use. Blackcliff is a F2P accessible non-gacha option that a lot of people use with her. You can also build her as an off-field cryo applicator with her Burst for perma-freeze comps. She's very very versatile.

I get liking Venti, but I haven't touched mine since Inazuma, which sucks. For a while I would just roam the overworld and look for a group of small enemies because he's so fun to use when he can succ them all, but he just can't anymore. Kaz's elemental skill has the mega succ, it provides good particles, low cooldown, and his Burst is great for reactions and increasing overall elemental damage. He's the perfect Viridescent Venerer user too.
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SSfox

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Ganyu is pretty versatile (charged shot, skill, and burst are valuable; can be used on and off-field) and easy to build without a ton of resources. I use her charged shot, so she's got a 4 piece Wanderer's Troupe (which you should have ton of if you've been farming bosses) and the craftable Prototype Crescent bow (apparently the Inazuma craftable bow also works well on her).

I understand not liking the aimed shot play style, but Ganyu does have a lot of additional value compared to someone like Kokomi.
Ganyu is good no matter which weapon you use. Blackcliff is a F2P accessible non-gacha option that a lot of people use with her. You can also build her as an off-field cryo applicator with her Burst for perma-freeze comps. She's very very versatile.

I get liking Venti, but I haven't touched mine since Inazuma, which sucks. For a while I would just roam the overworld and look for a group of small enemies because he's so fun to use when he can succ them all, but he just can't anymore. Kaz's elemental skill has the mega succ, it provides good particles, low cooldown, and his Burst is great for reactions and increasing overall elemental damage. He's the perfect Viridescent Venerer user too.

This is exactly it.

I see, one of the part i like about this game is aren't force to pull for weapons to make it work.

Main reason i also want a DPS Cryo if for those Shild guys in abyss, they aren't that strong but their shield waste too much time, Chongyun helped me a bit in one level but i need another Cryo damage character.
 

crumbs

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I see, one of the part i like about this game is aren't force to pull for weapons to make it work.

Main reason i also want a DPS Cryo if for those Shild guys in abyss, they aren't that strong but their shield waste too much time, Chongyun helped me a bit in one level but i need another Cryo damage character.

Multi-dimensional characters like Ganyu or Kazuha also provide protection (at least compared to one-note characters) when the devs decide to mess with the game balance. Venti was considered OP last year due to his CC burst, but once the devs started to f*ck around with enemies and their weight and poise, he lost a lot of value. The CC element of Kazuha's skill may have issues with certain enemies or future enemies, but his burst and the exploration aspect of his skill still have a lot of value in many team comps.
 

InterMusketeer

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Got a 5 star on the standard wish early at 40-ish wishes in. Wolf's Gravestone. Don't really have anyone to give it to and I think it's ugly as sin, but good to have I guess. Still would've preferred Mona or Jean or virtually any other weapon, but beggars can't be choosers.
 

crumbs

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Got a 5 star on the standard wish early at 40-ish wishes in. Wolf's Gravestone. Don't really have anyone to give it to and I think it's ugly as sin, but good to have I guess. Still would've preferred Mona or Jean or virtually any other weapon, but beggars can't be choosers.
No Diluc? Fortunately, it's a pretty universal weapon that works on a bunch of claymore characters. The attack boost passive for all characters is pretty handy.
 

Dregnel

Member
if mihoyo wants to power creep/nerf kazuha they just need to make alot of enemies that take only physical damage, physical specters?
what about monsters that have a lot of bombs and throw them on the ground, when kazuha uses his e and attracts all the bombs under him he could die instantly.

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the possibilities are endless.
 

crumbs

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if mihoyo wants to power creep/nerf kazuha they just need to make alot of enemies that take only physical damage, physical specters?
what about monsters that have a lot of bombs and throw them on the ground, when kazuha uses his e and attracts all the bombs under him he could die instantly.

Revenge Of The Sith Evil Laugh GIF by Star Wars

the possibilities are endless.

And the bombs reduce player energy and ignore shields and inflict TRUE DAMAGE while also causing corrosion.

Let's not give them too many ideas :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 

Pejo

Gold Member
if mihoyo wants to power creep/nerf kazuha they just need to make alot of enemies that take only physical damage, physical specters?
what about monsters that have a lot of bombs and throw them on the ground, when kazuha uses his e and attracts all the bombs under him he could die instantly.

Revenge Of The Sith Evil Laugh GIF by Star Wars

the possibilities are endless.
You forgot Kaz at launch, he actually took the same amount of damage he would dish out from multi element Swirl reactions like Overload and Electro charged and it would kill him every time he used his elemental skill with multiple elements. It was pretty funny.
I don't use that potato face. But yeah, seems decent even for supporting characters.
Sayu surprisingly makes good use of it if you time it right when you have an enemy at low health for a party buff. Also, Eula, Beidou, Chongus all make good use of it. It's a pretty universally good weapon.
 

Fake

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Got a 5 star on the standard wish early at 40-ish wishes in. Wolf's Gravestone. Don't really have anyone to give it to and I think it's ugly as sin, but good to have I guess. Still would've preferred Mona or Jean or virtually any other weapon, but beggars can't be choosers.

Works well with 4 * chars. Wish I had for Chongyu.
 

deanote666

Gold Member
why do you guys farm ore? I have thousands and thousands of those minerals sending expeditions.
I'm using more crystal than I'm farming right now.

I leveled up several weapons at once and went below 1000 purple xp crystals. Got those back up to around 2000 but started leveling up another weapon so those are going back down.

My crystal ore is now below 1000 from making the purple xp crystals.
 

YukiOnna

Member
2.5 Stream (JP seems to title it: When the Sakura Bloom/Fade) confirmed for the 4th w/ Concert after.

 
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Pejo

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2.5 Stream (JP seems to title it: When the Sakura Bloom/Fade) confirmed for the 4th w/ Concert after.
Can't wait to sit and watch them tell us about stuff we've been discussing in the thread for about a month now. It'd be nice if they held on to a few surprises that they don't put into the beta. Like if they were to ramp up creation and distribution of costumes and reveal them during the stream.

And not that censored shit.
 

YukiOnna

Member
Can't wait to sit and watch them tell us about stuff we've been discussing in the thread for about a month now. It'd be nice if they held on to a few surprises that they don't put into the beta. Like if they were to ramp up creation and distribution of costumes and reveal them during the stream.

And not that censored shit.
Sucks I feel zero excitement when we know everything, but maybe they'll do the new region concept art or something for Chasm or the Mondstadt area. No hope that any gameplay systems are new with how their beta's work.
 

Fake

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So I was just randomly thinking - how the fuck did Zhongli make a fake dead dragon body?

Just flesh and blood. The dragon is just like Zhongli, a vessel. If they really are gods, can easily do that. Remember Signora and Childe conversation? Signora said a snap of the fingers Zhongli would revert and the Water God battle.
 

Pejo

Gold Member
Are you talking about Exuvia? I remember reading that it was basically like an exoskeleton for him that he can take shape in or manipulate.
But how would it stick around after he exited/transformed to human form? What's it made out of?
Just flesh and blood. The dragon is just like Zhongli, a vessel. If they really are gods, can easily do that. Remember Signora and Childe conversation? Signora said a snap of the fingers Zhongli would revert and the Water God battle.
Does that mean it's like cutting off an arm?
 

YukiOnna

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But how would it stick around after he exited/transformed to human form? What's it made out of?
The way I interpreted it is it's like what a snake does so it's "him" as Fake said- part of his own body. So he can have it remain for an extended period of time if he wants it to.
 

Pejo

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So apparently this means Ayato and Chasm in 2.6, but not the mustache guy whoever that is.

Also, no Dendro in Chasm, apparently.

Also also looks like we're finally getting an Inazuma festival in 2.6.

The way I interpreted it is it's like what a snake does so it's "him" as Fake said- part of his own body. So he can have it remain for an extended period of time if he wants it to.
So like a husk? Interesting. We've never actually seen the Adepti transform in the game, so we still have no idea how they do it. From my understanding, Zhongli is just a beefed up Adepti, so I wonder if they can shed their animal bodies too.
 

YukiOnna

Member
Also also looks like we're finally getting an Inazuma festival in 2.6.
Finally. Only took 3 centuries.
So like a husk? Interesting. We've never actually seen the Adepti transform in the game, so we still have no idea how they do it. From my understanding, Zhongli is just a beefed up Adepti, so I wonder if they can shed their animal bodies too.
Yeah. It was implied that he only used Exuvia for formal events so he should be able to have multiple "forms". I'm guessing some were for combat. I kind of wish Zhongli did interrupt the Osial battle so we could see him do it. Maybe the other Adepti also have human forms that are similar to Ganyu in appearance rather than the full extent of what ZL does.
 

Pejo

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So I've been pissing around with team comps since the game is basically dead right now. I've had a surprising amount of fun with Shenhe (main dps), Chongus (to apply cryo to her normal attacks), Kokomi, and Yun Jin. It's a pretty effective and fun freeze comp. I changed Shenhe's build a bit to be stacked towards ATK and Cryo damage. Her animations don't do her any favors, but the buffs from both her own skill and Yun Jin's burst make her hit decently hard and there's no break in the freeze application.

It certainly isn't breaking any speed records, but it's at least something different that could have its uses.

It also means that I have to actually level and build YunJin and Chongus now.

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Looks like in 2.6 we get a free Thoma from the Inazuma festival and Qiqi gets a story quest.

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crumbs

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So apparently Zhongli moves around Liyue Harbor after you speak with him at the restaurant following the end of the Lantern Right quest line. I found him near the blacksmith in Liyue today, but I'm not sure if you need to talk to him to trigger the next move or if he randomly moves around.
 
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Pejo

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The problem with QiQi quest is... you know... she is an undead, almost incapable of doing things for her own... so they gonna rely in the dendro guy, this popular fellow of reddit.
There's an interesting theory going around that she's at least part Adepti but lost her memories, instead of a Zombie. It'd be cool if they explored that a bit.

Her background has the Adepti symbolism instead of the human stuff:
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YukiOnna

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Final cutscene was really nice. I can't believe they gave me another date with Keq. Still sad Ganyu isn't getting any sort of importance unless it's in one of the side quests of this event, but hope we get to see her form a connection with Shenhe next time. Happy to see more of ZL and Hu Tao together though. I also wish these stories wouldn't bother with Treasure Hoarders every time.

Thank fuck for no lantern crafting.
 
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Pejo

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Final cutscene was really nice. I can't believe they gave me another date with Keq. Still sad Ganyu isn't getting any sort of importance unless it's in one of the side quests of this event, but hope we get to see her form a connection with Shenhe next time. Happy to see more of ZL and Hu Tao together though. I also wish these stories wouldn't bother with Treasure Hoarders every time.

Thank fuck for no lantern crafting.
I was genuinely surprised when they showed Ganyu/Shenhe, they didn't seem to know each other at all. That indicates the timeline a bit. Ganyu has been gone from the Adepti for long enough that she never met Shenhe who's been living there since she was a child. Surprising that Cloud Retainer never mentioned Shenhe when Ganyu would come to visit.

Anyways, apparently there's rumblings that we're either getting an anime short for Genshin, or at least a few anime cutscenes in the next patch.

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YukiOnna

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I was genuinely surprised when they showed Ganyu/Shenhe, they didn't seem to know each other at all. That indicates the timeline a bit. Ganyu has been gone from the Adepti for long enough that she never met Shenhe who's been living there since she was a child. Surprising that Cloud Retainer never mentioned Shenhe when Ganyu would come to visit.

Anyways, apparently there's rumblings that we're either getting an anime short for Genshin, or at least a few anime cutscenes in the next patch.

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Yeah, I thought they'd have known each other, but guess not. Probably because Shenhe was added in so late.

And cool I hope it's true. They did ask about an anime in one of the survey's and it's closer to what Honkai does.
 

Pejo

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Yeah, I thought they'd have known each other, but guess not. Probably because Shenhe was added in so late.

And cool I hope it's true. They did ask about an anime in one of the survey's and it's closer to what Honkai does.
Not sure what Crunchyroll has to do with it, but...
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crumbs

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Ganyu not knowing Shenhe was an awkward story beat. The writers should have included Ganyu in Shenhe's story archon quest, maybe something like "Ganyu's too busy to have spent much time with young Shenhe, now their relationship is distant". Then use the cutscenes during Lantern Rite to show that they're becoming closer now that Shenhe is visiting Liyue Harbor more and integrating with humans.

Establishing that Shenhe knows all the other Adepti well, but somehow never meets Ganyu, doesn't make much sense. Especially since we've seen that Ganyu will go to Jueyun Karst to visit Cloud Retainer.

Not that big a deal, but it could have been handled better.
 
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