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About review bombing games like TLOU II, Battlefield 2042 and Cyberpunk 2077

Concern

Member
Tl;dr


sad chris crocker GIF


Leave Battlefield alone.


Played the trial and its fun but its a buggy and incomplete pos. People under maps killing you, hovercraft climbs buildings, ar is bugged, and no voice chat lol. How tf do you defend releasing a team based fps with no voice chat?

Best thing about threads like this is most people defending it will shit on another game for the same reason just cuz they're not fans of it.
 

nani17

are in a big trouble
Tl;dr


sad chris crocker GIF


Leave Battlefield alone.


Played the trial and its fun but its a buggy and incomplete pos. People under maps killing you, hovercraft climbs buildings, ar is bugged, and no voice chat lol. How tf do you defend releasing a team based fps with no voice chat?

Best thing about threads like this is most people defending it will shit on another game for the same reason just cuz they're not fans of it.
No scoreboard either and no squad options. Amazing for a battlefield game not to have these
 
I didn't say that. There is a huge difference between doesn't like and review bombing 0s.

You do understand that and are just pretending you don't, right?

Right?
You do understand that offhand dismissal of any criticism is exactly what you're doing though, right?

Right?

Edit: lmfao at you trying to act like I'm the triggered one here, when you're just upset that people have a problem with "MY FAVORITE GAME". Self-awareness is an elusive creature
 
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Shut0wen

Member
I honestly can't even begin to understand how so much misinformation happened around TLOU2's story. I remember how somehow Abby was criticized for being a trans character...and then ended up not even being that. Then suddenly it's just not realistic how she looks so big. But somehow that was never a problem when male characters in a post-apocalyptic world look all bulky. The goal post just kept moving around for a few months.

Also...for a game that's supposedly so "woke" i found it weird how all black characters died like they did, lmao.

that Abby boss battle with that huge dude at the end of the Seraphite's island...holy shit, what was that about? lmao or how Isaac died for no reason after being hyped since Ellie's days.

I feel those leaks damaged a lot of the promo campaign for that game release and never understood how Ellie being a lesbian affected this game...but somehow that was never an issue with the DLC of the first game.

It definitely felt...targeted.
Exactly and even if the criticism was all legit i still dont see the problem because its a story neil and naughtydog wanted to tell, i understand criticism when it comes to bugs and bad video game designs but when it comes to a games story it should never be changed no matter how shit it is because no matter if you change it to the way fans want itll never reach there expectations
 

u4ea

Member
Most people don't seem to understand that there are scores other than 10/10 or 0/10. It's always so black and white these days.

I haven't played BF 2042 but I played the beta. Which was a buggy, bland mess.
Does it deserve 10/10? No
But does it deserve 0/10? Also no

Did you guys also receive a 0 on your report card because you made spelling mistakes and wrote a 150 word report instead of 200? No>
You might get a fail or slightly above passing grade, but surely not a 0 right?

You teach companies nothing with review bombing because no-one takes a 0/10 serious.
Make it a 6/10 average, then they'll listen.
 

Cyborg

Member
TLOU II is a masterpiece, well-polished game! People (grown-up men acting like babies) didn't agree with the story, characters and decided to ''act''.

BF2042 and Cyberpunk; promised so much but delivered an unfinished product. BF20422 doesn't feel like a BF game and all the bugs make it unplayable at certain points and Cyberpunk just mislead all the early adaptors. Both deserve the backslash.
 

McCheese

Member
I don’t think review bombing is the right term for the games mentioned.

if a game is released with a load of bugs, it’s not a review bomb. If a game pisses off the fans by killing the main character then it’s not a review bomb.

my definition of a review bomb is, say, someone on the development team pisses people off and so people decide to slate the game to get back at them. But if the negativity is around the game itself, even if the game is subjectivity “good”, then that’s the review system working as intended.
 

Filben

Member
I don't think you can apply the same standard to these games in OP. TLOU2 was "bombed" or in other words got a a lot of bad reviews because some people had issues with the portrayal of characters and how some characters were treated. This was more or less a personal issue because some people felt offended and fell into their own insecurities. This is was a political issue because the game is political.

BF2042 on the other hand is riddled with bugs and technical and gameplay issue. Frostbite engine and their servers can barely handle 128 players; the balancing is a mess; some people can't even play the game; the maps are badly design, not in a way that you simply don't like them like a character, but because it doesn't work at certain points and it's impossible to take a certain objective due to intertwined issues with map design, weapon and vehicle balance; some functions simply don't work, like pressing Q for the communication wheel and it closes immediately and only works like 2 out of 10 times; design choices that feel more like they wanted to be a mix of Fortnite and Apex Legends, like what's with the voice lines at the end of a match? Only thing that's missing is """cool""" dance moves and hats. Why is this an issue? Because it's fucking Battlefield and it always had a grounded tone until they went full "Fast and Furious" with this one.

Cyberpunk is in the same ballpark although I don't think it got bombed really. However, they promised things they haven't, and never will, deliver and it was also a technical mess, at least on consoles. This game should have not been released on PS4/XOne due to technical and performance issues, but they did it anyway because "MONEEEEY bitches!".

And "review bombing", practically reviews in a very short time period often addressing issues with the game itself OR peripheral issues, does work because it's going to hurt future sales. And when sales are involved, so is money. And that's what they care most and above everything else.
 
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MrTentakel

Member
I don't think you can apply the same standard to these games in OP. TLOU2 was "bombed" or in other words got a a lot of bad reviews because some people had issues with the portrayal of characters and how some characters were treated. This was more or less a personal issue because some people felt offended and fell into their own insecurities. This is was a political issue because the game is political.

Are the 10/10 GOTYs for the game political as well?

Could you imagine people not liking the writing, pacing and combat or are those just right wing insecure cry babies?
 

Amiga

Member
I feel certain games are being targeted, I remember TLOU II had great industry reviews, but bad user reviews...not because the game deserved it but...It wasn't what trolls and specialist groups wanted it to be...The majority loved the game...It pushed the industry forward and is a milestone in every category, even the report form Microsoft agreed. I feel unjustified review bombing is happening to Battlefiled 2042..YES it has problems but thats with most games releasing today needing patches at launch...I feel its being unjustly review bombed. Same thing they tried to do with BFV because it was "woke". I do feel companies need to be held accountable for unfinished buggy products...

IMOO people who pay to play the game have a more honest opinion than people who get paid to review the game.

don't get trapped in the bubble.
 
I feel unjustified review bombing is happening to Battlefiled 2042..YES it has problems but thats with most games releasing today needing patches at launch.......... I do feel companies need to be held accountable for unfinished buggy products...
A broken game should not get a good review score by anyone, if the games needs a patch it should be released with the patch, not be patched after the fact.

As for the political thing, what are we going to do? Often the user score is more meaningful, but in some cases the backlash (or good professional reviews) is not deserved.
 

Guilty_AI

Member
Could you imagine people not liking the writing, pacing and combat
Story was pretty bad. Reminded me of some of those edgy webnovels written by teens you can find online. If someone handed me the script and told me it was a fanfiction, i wouldn't question it.
 
Could you imagine people not liking the writing, pacing and combat or are those just right wing insecure cry babies?
This is because of people like you that this conversation derails, leftists are the ones going around saying that "everything is politics"... Then they complain (or riot and kill) when people don't agree with them, I will side with the crybabies any day of the week given the opportunity.
 

Kenpachii

Member
A broken game should not get a good review score by anyone, if the games needs a patch it should be released with the patch, not be patched after the fact.

As for the political thing, what are we going to do? Often the user score is more meaningful, but in some cases the backlash (or good professional reviews) is not deserved.

There is nothing broken about the game. it works fine.

Here u got 3 hours of gameplay i did yesterday



Spot all the bugs i encountered.

number is 0

The game misses features i can agree with that, however its very much battlefield as u would expect. People pretending the game is in a unplayable state or completely bugged out are straight up lying and that's whats going on and what made the topic starter probably start the topic. Battlefield 2042 reviews and video's of bugs are the most surreal shit i ever experienced. Its like they live in another dimension then i do.
 
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Gamezone

Gold Member
Cyberpunk and Battlefield 2042 wasn't review bombed. People were honest. Cyberpunk was nowhere close to the hype CDPR caused before it launched, and they knew it was crap, so they tried to hide gameplay when leaks started to happen closer to launch, and Battlefield is a buggy mess, with missing features and bad performance. The Last of Us 2 was a polished, good gameplay experience. Maybe the story wasn't all that we'll. It desverved it much less in my opinion.
 
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recursive

Member
It's not "their" game. They're a consumer of a product. The only thing you should be "entitled" to is that the game works and it's playable from beginning to end.
If your point is story is off the table for review then your point is whack.
 

MrTentakel

Member
This is because of people like you that this conversation derails, leftists are the ones going around saying that "everything is politics"... Then they complain (or riot and kill) when people don't agree with them, I will side with the crybabies any day of the week given the opportunity.
This was the point I tried to make if 0/10 are politics and 10/10 critic scores are perfectly fine, something is fishy!
You love the game? More power to you.
I dislike the writing, combat and pacing and you cannot dismiss those points as political reasons.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
If your point is story is off the table for review then your point is whack.
No, that wasn't the point.

He basically said we don't want this social justice stuff in our game when is not their game. The developers are entitled to create any story they want because it's their game, not the gamers.
 

Guilty_AI

Member
No, that wasn't the point.

He basically said we don't want this social justice stuff in our game when is not their game. The developers are entitled to create any story they want because it's their game, not the gamers.
i mean, by that token the players are also entitled to give whatever review they see fit. Its their review, not the developers, if they think the game deserves a 0/10 for whatever politics it may have included its their business.
 
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I completely get the review scores of the latter two (they were plagued with bugs, unplayable at times, had missing content or was barebones in places). Wouldn't rate them zero (unless BF is legitatly unplayable)

I think the hate was unjustified with TLOU2. Yes it wasn't as good as the first and the story was weak in areas.... But the gameplay was there and there wernt any bugs. It was a complete product and polished It was still a good game but the reverse resetera brigade just cried woke and acted all snowflakey.... And many rated it 1 without playing it. I wouldn't have rated it a 10... . Probably more of an 8. It did not deserve the 1s it was getting by triggered mob.
 
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Fbh

Member
All the drama over user reviews always is so silly.
It's user reviews, let people rate stuff however they want for whatever reason they want.
 
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No, that wasn't the point.

He basically said we don't want this social justice stuff in our game when is not their game. The developers are entitled to create any story they want because it's their game, not the gamers.
And people can react to that in any way they want. It's hilarious that people will point out that Neil Druckmann was purposefully writing a controversial story, then act offended when a controversy erupted. Wtf
 

Ellery

Member
I'm not sure how TLOU2 reviews bombed :pie_thinking:

The (critics) reviews were stellar for TLOU2, just like the game deserved. But this is about people gathering on places like 4chan or far right youtube video comment sections organizing review bombing on sites like metacritic (when a big number of people go to metacritic and give a game a 0.0 score).

For some games it happens "naturally" that are in a very flawed technical state like Cyberpunk 2077, GTA Trilogy, Warcraft 3 Reforged etc. I don't know the details about BF 2042 in depth, but it seems to have a log of bugs as well. But for some other games, like TLOU2, they are being review bombed by a specific type of people that are extremely triggered by that game for whatever reason (Neil Druckmann being jewish, Ellie being lesbian, Abby being muscular, Joel dying at the beginning of the game etc.) and they thought it would be funny to make their little voices heard by giving the game a 0 on Metacritic.

(inb4 people unable to comprehend and drooling to reply : I am not implying or targeting anyone specifically with my post, just a summary of what happened and how some games get "review bombed" on metacritic)
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
i mean, by that token the players are also entitled to give whatever review they see fit. Its their review, not the developers, if they think the game deserves a 0/10 for whatever politics it may have included its their business.

The point has nothing to do with reviews, the point is people claiming it's their game and they should have a say in how it's made.
 
There is nothing broken about the game. it works fine.

Here u got 3 hours of gameplay i did yesterday



Spot all the bugs i encountered.

number is 0

The game misses features i can agree with that, however its very much battlefield as u would expect. People pretending the game is in a unplayable state or completely bugged out are straight up lying and that's whats going on and what made the topic starter probably start the topic. Battlefield 2042 reviews and video's of bugs are the most surreal shit i ever experienced. Its like they live in another dimension then i do.

Nah cut it out. Some of you are fans of this franchise and thats absolutely fine. But stop tryin to defend an incomplete game. This game is not finished. Point blank. EA is too big of a publisher, too expirienced and too rich to release a Battlefield title like this. And its not even about the bugs. There are whole features missing. This is half a game packaged at premium and thats why it deserves LOW REVIEW scores. If you wanna keep beta testing this trash then go ahead and enjoy it. But stop tryin to convince other people that this shit is acceptable.
 

Woggleman

Member
Are the 10/10 GOTYs for the game political as well?

Could you imagine people not liking the writing, pacing and combat or are those just right wing insecure cry babies?
People can have whatever opinion they want. I am not talking about people who just didn't care for the game. I am talking about the people who act like ND was personally disrespecting them by simply it.

Politics has almost nothing to do with why most of the people who like the game like it. I guess for LGBT people having a main protagonist in a major game feels good and I don't blame for that but if the game truly was objective garbage it wouldn't have so many supporters.
 

Godot25

Banned
I feel certain games are being targeted, I remember TLOU II had great industry reviews, but bad user reviews...not because the game deserved it but...It wasn't what trolls and specialist groups wanted it to be...The majority loved the game...It pushed the industry forward and is a milestone in every category, even the report form Microsoft agreed. I feel unjustified review bombing is happening to Battlefiled 2042..YES it has problems but thats with most games releasing today needing patches at launch...I feel its being unjustly review bombed. Same thing they tried to do with BFV because it was "woke". I do feel companies need to be held accountable for unfinished buggy products...
Tbh. I have never felt such a disappointment as a story of TLOUII. I get that this is kind of story devs wanted to tell and it was well acted and game was pretty. But my god it was terrible. So if I would have to give game metacritic rating it would be around 4-5/10. So to say that i'm troll or part of specialist group is silly. Because game was divisive.

And about Battlefield. Game is buggy, unfinished mess that should be in development for 6 additional months minimum. I couldn't even bring myself to play all 10 hours in trial period. And I'm Battlefield fan. And I'm not even talking about fact that they broke everything that made Battlefield great and unique.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
And people can react to that in any way they want.

You also missed the point.

The point has nothing to do with reviews, the point is people claiming it's their game and they should have a say in how it's made.
The point had nothing to do with the reviews.

It's hilarious that people will point out that Neil Druckmann was purposefully writing a controversial story, then act offended when a controversy erupted. Wtf

If you actually listening to his interviews then you would realize that he was critical of the false claims that were made against him and Naughty Dog.
 

K2D

Banned
When it comes to user enjoyment, I'll believe a 1/10 steam user score over a 10/10 industry median score any day.

...not because the game deserved it but...It wasn't what trolls and specialist groups wanted it to be...The majority loved the game...

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Firstly, BF2042 isn’t being review bombed for any other reason other than it’s a bad, unfinished game. What is hard to understand about that?

Secondly, saying that games released unfinished and buggy is absolutely not acceptable and developers shouldn’t be given a pass for that. Companies need to be held accountable for their bullshit and this is the way the community let them know.

This is especially the case here as DICE said so many times that ‘we’re ahead of schedule’ and ‘it’s delayed so we can give it additional polish, the game is in great shape’. It was all lies, the game isn’t in great shape. There are dozens of videos online showing the current state of the product.

To repeat myself again. It isn’t acceptable to be actively lied to and then have to pay £70 for it (I know the game can be found cheaper, the point here is that EA set this as the RRP).

Even looking past the bugs, the game is such a mess. New design choices aren’t good and maps are mostly bad with a couple being just passable at best.

Again one last time for you friend. I’m not in the business of paying £70 and then receiving the expected product 6 months later down the line. Unacceptable and this corporate apologist rubbish is cringe. Get a grip sir!
 
You also missed the point.


The point had nothing to do with the reviews.



If you actually listening to his interviews then you would realize that he was critical of the false claims that were made against him and Naughty Dog.
I read a ton of his interviews, and he was critical of anyone who didn't like his story. Funny how the guy who originally vetoed this same storyline left the company, Bruce Staley. He said in an interview years before Pt2 that the cross country revenge plot wasn't believable storytelling. Druckmann waited until he was gone, then told the same unbelievable sequence of events that he wanted to do in Pt1.
Yeah, I read all the interviews
 

Kenpachii

Member
Nah cut it out. Some of you are fans of this franchise and thats absolutely fine. But stop tryin to defend an incomplete game. This game is not finished. Point blank. EA is too big of a publisher, too expirienced and too rich to release a Battlefield title like this. And its not even about the bugs. There are whole features missing. This is half a game packaged at premium and thats why it deserves LOW REVIEW scores. If you wanna keep beta testing this trash then go ahead and enjoy it. But stop tryin to convince other people that this shit is acceptable.

Or u gotta stop being delusional and start to face reality how about that.

The game isn't a buggy mess and my video of my playthrough of 3 hours showcases this the other day. Zero problems encountered. And yes buggy mess is where its at because that's what everybody keeps complaining about in video's that bash the game and not.

The features that are so called missing, and people want to see is another debate. But the game is very much in a perfect playable state and exactly what battlefield is. The same for bad performance. The game performs perfectly fine for what it tries to do. its striaght up how bf3 and 4 performance when they came out. Yet nobody cares to mention that.

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Unlike most of you downers, i actually provide proof.

And making me out like somekind of fan is also laughable at best, i shit down dice throat with bf1 and specially bf5 massively. Fan my ass. Reality is king.
 
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skit_data

Member
It’s pretty funny btw, I was at Medborgarplatsen in Stockholm the other day and there is this huge banner(probably one of the more expensive physical marketing spots in all of Stockholm) with an ad for BF2042 that said
”Stockholm, home of BF 2042 creators DICE”.
I know their hq is just a few hundred meters from there but all I thought was ”Yikes”.

They’ve really gone from being one of Swedens top developers to being a EA lapdog and with these last installments in the BF franchise + Battlefront they’ve let a lot of people down.
 
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Woggleman

Member
The New Battlefield deserves it for being a defective game which we should say instead of incomplete but the uproar over the option to play as a woman was not deserved.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
I read a ton of his interviews, and he was critical of anyone who didn't like his story. Funny how the guy who originally vetoed this same storyline left the company, Bruce Staley. He said in an interview years before Pt2 that the cross country revenge plot wasn't believable storytelling. Druckmann waited until he was gone, then told the same unbelievable sequence of events that he wanted to do in Pt1.
Yeah, I read all the interviews

Then show me where he went after anyone just because they didn't like the story of TLOU 2.

If you tell me to search it myself, then that's proof you're making a false claim.
 
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The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
This is why we no longer have a visible dislike button, because people like OP gets hurt.

This thread is the classical "what I like are masterpieces, and getting review bombed".

Cyberpunk was a buggy mess.
Bf2042 took a wrong direction already with bfv, and dice learned nothing from it and went the opposite direction of what people wants.
TLoU2 got hate not because of paid green rats down voting, but because people were mad about the story, and rightfully so.

All valid dislikes.

Stop caring about what other people think. I've played lots of games the majority hated but I liked. It's not a failure to go the opposite direction of the mainstream.
 

Fake

Member
I don't think you fully read my post.Because I explicitly say that you can't have an objective review except if you just look at the technical part (fps bugs etc...).
Then I expained my opinion on why to me a 0 is a nonsense because if a game can launch and is payable it deserves more, just like students can't have 0 unless they give back a blank paper.
Then I mentionned the problem of having to review a game amongst a franchise and trying to have a more objective review system and the hard task of reviewing a game and you talk about your opinion, that has nothing to do about what I'm talking about, sure everyone can have his opinion so your point is ?

It weird because your post read like you felt attacked when I simply explained that there are multiple ways to review a game, on those ways only one can be objective(the one about performance, which is the one you said I ignored strangely because it is the first of the two way I talk about).And the other one which then explained that there are multiple factors that can either explain highest and lowest notes.I encourage you to maybe read again my post and yours to see where you took a wrong turn answering.

No dude, is not a matter of can or can't. Zero (0) and ten (10) are numbers and can be used. If a game can deserve a 10 sure can deserve a 0.

My point you're not getting is, people prefer to look at the number rather than the review inself. Imagine a most well writen review in the history yet without a score number... and in the next day the review in question get a 10 score or a zero score. Understand?

And reviewers are about opinions, nothing more. That reflect the user review score.
 
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Bingo. The point I'm making...critic reviews are "more" credible..not some angry gamer who doesn't like a game design choice.
Not liking a game design choice is a perfectly reasonable argument when critiquing a game. How the hell do you think critics score games? You are talking absolute fucking nonsense at this point.

Just come out and say ‘I absolutely love BF2042 and can look past it’s problems.’ I think that’s more respectable than trying to blindly argue that everyone else is wrong and should agree with you.
 

Concern

Member
Are you on about the top right showing my kills and revives?


No. If you're in game, as in not in the menus to spawn but actually on the ground. You hold start and a small scoreboard will pop up but just showing your squads stats.

If I get on today I'll take a picture and post it for you guys if that helps.
 
This is why we no longer have a visible dislike button, because people like OP gets hurt.

This thread is the classical "what I like are masterpieces, and getting review bombed".

Cyberpunk was a buggy mess.
Bf2042 took a wrong direction already with bfv, and dice learned nothing from it and went the opposite direction of what people wants.
TLoU2 got hate not because of paid green rats down voting, but because people were mad about the story, and rightfully so.

All valid dislikes.

Stop caring about what other people think. I've played lots of games the majority hated but I liked. It's not a failure to go the opposite direction of the mainstream.

Disagree. I get the TLOU2 story hate.... Honestly I do... It was not as good as the first. But the review bombs were giving it a 1/10 five mins after release. So clearly there was an agenda. Giving it a 1/10 ensures that there are no redeeming qualities of the game..... I.e its completely unplayable or extremely buggy, and/or the graphics, technical quality, atmosphere, voice acting, world, design, sound design is not there.

BF in some instances is a mess because its unplayable. Cyberpunk was buggy, and again in some instances unplayable because of the framerate... So you can't give a review on the rest because that bit is so bad. With TLOU2, yes the story was a bit weaker (at worst I think a 4/10... I'd give it a 6) but it was playable, and completely polished, had good design, voice acting, good world design, sound design etc. The gameplay was more or less exactly the same as before. That's why I don't think it deserved 1s from triggered people calling the game woke.
 
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nani17

are in a big trouble
No. If you're in game, as in not in the menus to spawn but actually on the ground. You hold start and a small scoreboard will pop up but just showing your squads stats.

If I get on today I'll take a picture and post it for you guys if that helps.
My squad yes but we wanted a traditional one were I can see everyone's.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Most people don't seem to understand that there are scores other than 10/10 or 0/10. It's always so black and white these days.

I haven't played BF 2042 but I played the beta. Which was a buggy, bland mess.
Does it deserve 10/10? No
But does it deserve 0/10? Also no

Did you guys also receive a 0 on your report card because you made spelling mistakes and wrote a 150 word report instead of 200? No>
You might get a fail or slightly above passing grade, but surely not a 0 right?

You teach companies nothing with review bombing because no-one takes a 0/10 serious.
Make it a 6/10 average, then they'll listen.
Thats the social media way. 0's and 10's.

Let it be known that gamer UberSniperChad999 gave it a 0/10! That'll teach em!
 

The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Disagree. I get the TLOU2 story hate.... Honestly I do... It was not as good as the first. But the review bombs were giving it a 1/10 five mins after release. So clearly there was an agenda. Giving it a 1/10 ensures that there are no redeeming qualities of the game..... I.e its completely unplayable or extremely buggy, and/or the graphics, technical quality, atmosphere, voice acting, world, design, sound design is not there.
I get it from your viewpoint.

From my viewport, I see 1/10 as an angry customer who is very unsatisfied by the game for whatever reason. Maybe the story were the only reason they played the game.

A like/dislike would might have been better, you can't really counter this.

I enjoyed new world a lot, but despite that I gave it a negative review on steam because of the errors.

While games can also be review bombed using this, its sorted easier out because its either you like it or you don't, no scores in between
 
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StreetsofBeige

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Tl;dr


sad chris crocker GIF


Leave Battlefield alone.


Played the trial and its fun but its a buggy and incomplete pos. People under maps killing you, hovercraft climbs buildings, ar is bugged, and no voice chat lol. How tf do you defend releasing a team based fps with no voice chat?

Best thing about threads like this is most people defending it will shit on another game for the same reason just cuz they're not fans of it.
Has there been any shooter in the modern era that has no voice chat in it? Especially a shooter that is supposed to be all about teamwork and objectives?!

When I played the beta I had issues killing people. I always use ARs or LMGs in shooters. When I read about the buggy bullet spread after, no wonder.
 
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