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[The Eradicator]

Bingo. The point I'm making...critic reviews are "more" credible..not some angry gamer who doesn't like a game design choice.

I don't find critic reviews to be any more credible than anyone else's. If anything, "pro" reviewers have been cowed by their Twitter peers into having a hive mind opinion. Some of them have even admitted as much. Some of them are afraid of fan reactions. Some are afraid of backlash from publishers and devs.

The ONLY reviews that I put stock in these days are generally youtubers who don't have a relationship with the pubs or devs. People getting flown out to private party events or people getting early review copies are not credible in my eyes (at least the majority of them). People who are afraid of losing business contact with the folks selling you a product is a clear conflict of interest.

Yes, there's user idiots who give a game a 0, but there's just as many idiots who give a game a 10, just to "balance out the trolls". Why worry about either group? They aren't worth anyone's time.

 

[Ellery]

I can understand extremely bad reviews/scores for games that are technically broken and unplayable to a degree that you have to wait months for patches to just even connect to servers or start a match or advance in the game, but in some cases review bombing is the highest amount of petty we have ever witnessed because crybabies are so insecure in their gaming opinions that they feel the need to give bad scores to games they haven't even played because they think it gives their meaningless lives a voice to bring their ultra polarized opinion to the table and counteract the good scores a game is getting, but in reality it is like a little kid screaming extra loud that something else gets attention.

So for the most part it boils down to objective faults (technical side of games) and subjective things (gameplay, story, characters, design etc.). There is a huge difference between review bombing a bug infested unplayable game and review bombing a the GOTY because you are insecure about fictional pixel designs of one character. If that was the standard actual decent intelligent humans would go by then all games would get bombed.

 

[The Eradicator]

He's talking about the extreme "0 out of 10" review scores. How is that just someone not liking the game? A game as polished and objectively good in terms of design and visuals. Even if you hated the story and were not impressed with the game design, wouldn't a 4 or 5 be at least somewhat reasonable? A 0, 1, or 2 score for that game is a frigging troll.

Now, when a company knowingly false advertises and/or fucks its customers over like Cyberpunk them it's reasonable to say that all bets are off. A 0 would not necessarily be a troll in that case. A game that is beyond the norm of bugginess and missing tons of features is to me, practically falsely advertised as well, as there is a reasonable expectation that the games we buy should come with the features it was advertised with and should work properly. In that case BF2042 deserves some harsh scores too. I wouldn't go as far as to say it deserves a 0 or a 1.

This is just my personal thoughts though and I understand other people have different expectations of what's acceptable. In the end, yeah don't put too much stock in reviews in general. Gather as much info as possible and make your decision.

I cringe when I see anyone use an individual review or website as their 'proof of how good a game is or isn't. Metacritic- just because it's an aggregate review site does NOT make it accurate, especially the customer reviews. If there is review bombing going on I don't care if 'the 10's balance out the 0's'. It has no credibility whatsoever in terms of how good something is. The professional critic review score carries some weight at least because you don't get the extreme scores the way you do with users.

A low score for a game that is entirely broken is fully justified, even if it's a 0-2. The problem is that gaming reviewers are somehow scared to use the low end of a 0-10 rating scale. People who review movies, TV, food, sports teams, consumer products, etc have always used the full rating scale, but when it comes to video games, for some asinine reason, people think that every game has to have a minimum of a 6, or else they're a "troll".

In the case of this post title, Cyberpunk, of all games, is used as an example of people being "trolls" for giving it low scores. A game where you can find literally thousands of hours worth of bugged gameplay videos online. The game was BROKEN, and not just on last gen consoles, as soooo many people falsely cling to. People being upset that they were sold a broken game and a boatload of lies by both CDPR and countless reviewers aren't all "trolls" and "review bombers".

 

[SJRB]

Look at OP's post history to know they're here with a very specific mission to damage control negative reactions to Battlefield 2042.

 

[tassletine]

CDPR outright lied about Cyberpunk and Druckman cynically trolled fans of the game, both through the plot and on Twitter. They were reactions to that mostly, not the games themselves.
If you want to deceive the public just to make a quick buck then you should expect that reaction--

And I expect they very much did, as there is a huge amount of money to be made from negative attention now.

 

[MrTentakel]

So for the most part it boils down to objective faults (technical side of games) and subjective things (gameplay, story, characters, design etc.). There is a huge difference between review bombing a bug infested unplayable game and review bombing a the GOTY because you are insecure about fictional pixel designs of one character. If that was the standard actual decent intelligent humans would go by then all games would get bombed.

It`s a story driven game and there are many reasons to dislike the writing beyond the "fictional pixel designs of one character".
This fact takes nothing away from you if you like the story and it resonates with you.

 

[Banjo64]

Some people really need to get over TLoU 2. Yeah, some people legitimately didn’t like it. So fucking what? If you liked it good for you. Not every one who disagrees with you is a troll for fucks sake.

 

[nani17]

What sort of shit?

There wasn't even much social justice stuff at all in this game. It was a dark and violent revenge story.

Angry manchildren just got triggered by 2 female characters. As if we haven't played enough ex-marines as main characters in the last 20 years....

I think it was more to do with the first trailer. For me it looked ridiculous. The character with the claw hand and cricket bat with chains wrapped around it and nails sticking though it. Yes many were upset with the female character for me she looked more like a cyberpunk character but I didn't hate the game for it.

The trailer looked more like a Micheal Bay version of wwii than anything else. It lost its authentic feel in that trailer for many players. Oh course people used the word realism instead of authentic and the media ran with it also saying the bf community was sexist.

What I mean by authentic is my character looks like he/she should guns tanks etc for that timeline. In that trailer it look again like a made up version of wwii which was stupid. Hence the backlash it just didn't look good at all.

As for for BF 2042 it's a disaster so far

 

[Ellery]

It`s a story driven game and there are many reasons to dislike the writing beyond the "fictional pixel designs of one character".
This fact takes nothing away from you if you like the story and it resonates with you.

Would you say that each game with bad writing (and there are a lot of games that would fall in that category. A lot) deserve to be review bombed with 0 ? I am pretty certain that one particular game got review bombed for much more petty reasons

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

Battlefield and Cyberpunk werent review-bombed. They deservedly recieved those low scores. The only game in that list that was RBed was TLOU2 because in every way it was a great game but a distaste towards a certain character, some people thought it was enough of the wokeness. Gameplay, graphics, length and fun factor are all there.

CP2077 and BF2042 are getting shit on because the "finished" product is shit. Both games were literally UN-FIN-ISHED. Hell BF doesn't even have a story lol, its all pointed and technical issues and gameplay. Thats not review bombing, thats reality. Are you going to tell me GTA trilogy is also receiving bad reviews without merit?

 

[Gameplaylover]

I feel certain games are being targeted, I remember TLOU II had great industry reviews, but bad user reviews...not because the game deserved it but...It wasn't what trolls and specialist groups wanted it to be...The majority loved the game...It pushed the industry forward and is a milestone in every category, even the report form Microsoft agreed. I feel unjustified review bombing is happening to Battlefiled 2042..YES it has problems but thats with most games releasing today needing patches at launch...I feel its being unjustly review bombed. Same thing they tried to do with BFV because it was "woke". I do feel companies need to be held accountable for unfinished buggy products...

I know that report: Overall they liked it, but not the most important factor of a game, the gameplay: "Naughty Dog still can’t seem to make decent gun combat in any of their games" and i think they also didn't like the inventory and the weapon switching. But trying to make a point with the opinion of professionals doesn't make much sense when it comes to art and yes games are art and if someone doesn't like it for whatever reason it's his damn right to say so. If you don't like it, just ignore user ratings.

 

[Flutta]

Let them gamers express their feelings breh ffs.

 

[winjer]

I feel unjustified review bombing is happening to Battlefiled 2042..YES it has problems but thats with most games releasing today needing patches at launch...I feel its being unjustly review bombed. Same thing they tried to do with BFV because it was "woke". I do feel companies need to be held accountable for unfinished buggy products...

Yes companies have to be held accountable.
That's why paying costumers are leaving bad reviews for BF 2042.
What you don't understand here, is that the victim is not EA and Dice. The victim are consumers that paid a lot of money, and got a broken product.
When someone ask why is the industry like this, with so many games being released full of bugs and problems, one of the main reasons are people like you.
People that spin a web of lies to defend companies that care nothing about costumers. Companies that release unfinished games, while charging exorbitant prices.

 

[MrTentakel]

Would you say that each game with bad writing (and there are a lot of games that would fall in that category. A lot) deserve to be review bombed with 0 ? I am pretty certain that one particular game got review bombed for much more petty reasons

Yeah or maybe it wasn't a great idea to invite the beloved character of the first game to a round of golf

Edit: The writer wanted to provoke a strong reaction -> it worked

 

[Gameplaylover]

Would you say that each game with bad writing (and there are a lot of games that would fall in that category. A lot) deserve to be review bombed with 0 ? I am pretty certain that one particular game got review bombed for much more petty reasons

Personally i wouldn't rate 0 for a working game, but if the focus of a game is like 90% story and people hate the story i somehow understand a 0. It's like a nice looking well built musclecar with lots of extras that doesn't drive.

 

[Ellery]

Yeah or maybe it wasn't a great idea to invite the beloved character of the first game to a round of golf

Personally i wouldn't rate 0 for a working game, but if the focus of a game is like 90% story and people hate the story i somehow understand a 0. It's like a nice looking well built musclecar with lots of extras that doesn't drive.

Thank you for the perfect demonstration of what I meant when I talked about "petty". Some people still being haunted by fictional pixel design of one character.
Last year's most GOTY winning game still in everyone's head after one and half years and I am still confused as to why my favorite game of all time is such a controversial focus point for so many haters that can't let go of it.
It is quite amazing what nerve Neil struck there.

Really looking forward to what Naughty Dog is doing next. There are rumors of a Sci Fi game with a black lead. That is probably not sitting well with some people.

 

[DForce]

Some people really need to get over TLoU 2. Yeah, some people legitimately didn’t like it. So fucking what? If you liked it good for you. Not every one who disagrees with you is a troll for fucks sake.

People bring it up on here to bash it more than anything else. You should know because you're in every thread.

 

[MrTentakel]

I am still confused as to why my favorite game of all time is such a controversial focus point for so many haters that can't let go of it.

So you cannot grasp the concept that your favorite game is not loved by everyone? And people who dislike your all time great game are haters?

I envy your simple world...

 

[Banjo64]

People bring it up on here to bash it more than anything else. You should know because you're in every thread.

Get a life mate. In those threads I’ve never seen anyone ‘bashing it’ without raising actual issues with the game.

 

[Ellery]

So you cannot grasp the concept that your favorite game is not loved by everyone? And people who dislike your all time great game are haters?

I envy your simple world...

I don't envy your hatred filled world.

 

[Gameplaylover]

Thank you for the perfect demonstration of what I meant when I talked about "petty". Some people still being haunted by fictional pixel design of one character.
Last year's most GOTY winning game still in everyone's head after one and half years and I am still confused as to why my favorite game of all time is such a controversial focus point for so many haters that can't let go of it.
It is quite amazing what nerve Neil struck there.

Really looking forward to what Naughty Dog is doing next. There are rumors of a Sci Fi game with a black lead. That is probably not sitting well with some people.

I think most people simply hated the main character dying at the beginning. Imagine Batman 2 or Indi 2 with the protagonists immediatley dying. We live in 2021 in my country they are even thinking of making god gender neutral (god* or god+), we have public LGBT parades like brazilian carnival since years and so on. I don't think that the vast majoritiy of the bad reviewers got triggered for the wrong reasons.

 

[MrTentakel]

I don't envy your hatred filled world.

No hate, just different tastes and opinions coexisting...

 

[DForce]

Get a life mate. In those threads I’ve never seen anyone ‘bashing it’ without raising actual issues with the game.

So, you admit you didn't have a problem bringing it up.

Here's an example of people bringing it up to bash it.

US NPD October 2021

Switch #1 in hardware sales.

www.neogaf.com

 

[Banjo64]

So, you admit you didn't have a problem bringing it up.

Here's an example of people bringing it up to bash it.

US NPD October 2021

Switch #1 in hardware sales.

www.neogaf.com

I have no idea what you are talking about. The only thing I can see on that sales thread are people saying GoT has longer legs than TLoU 2 - 2 games that launched in June and July of 2020. Wow, fucking horrific. The funny thing is the people posting and laughing at the memes seem to be mostly PS fans?

 

[skit_data]

Yeah, I’d say review bombing TLOU2 was pretty immature behaviour.

People who review-bombed the console version of Cyberpunk 2077 I have no issues with.

 

[STARSBarry]

It would be interesting to see the the age range of of people who are actively defending broken releases like BF2042.

I am wondering if there so young they "don't get it" because essentially they have only received broken games for a majority of there gaming lives.

However older gamers are what I would assume more prone to being tired of all this BS because we have an actual period of experience of when games worked out the box as a fully functional product.

I don't remember this shit with Codename Eagle, 1942 or Vietnam. He'll BF 1943 on console while limited ran flawless with good class and map design, with some interesting mechanics.

Yeah, I’d say review bombing TLOU2 was pretty immature behaviour.

People who review-bombed the console version of Cyberpunk 2077 I have no issues with.

You do know a majority of PC reviews where done at launch... and the PC version while not as bad as console still experienced massive issues on launch alongside being massively overhyped.

Do people not understand how consumer reviews work?

 

[DForce]

I have no idea what you are talking about. The only thing I can see on that sales thread are people saying GoT has longer legs than TLoU 2 - 2 games that launched in June and July of 2020. Wow, fucking horrific. The funny thing is the people posting and laughing at the memes seem to be mostly PS fans?

You clearly didn't read the thread because the people who don't like the game brought up TLOU 2. It turned into the TLOU 2 sales thread because people wanted to tell people how it failed.

 

[Banjo64]

You clearly didn't read the thread because the people who don't like the game brought up TLOU 2. It turned into the TLOU 2 sales thread because people wanted to tell people how it failed.

I read the first page because, you know, I have better things to do. Is this what you’re pissing your knickers over?

Ghost ------------> TLOU2
Take that, Cuckmann!

 

[skit_data]

You do know a majority of PC reviews where done at launch... and the PC version while not as bad as console still experienced massive issues on launch alongside being massively overhyped.

Do people not understand how consumer reviews work?

Alright, the PC version may also be review bombed in my opinion. I just used the console version as it was such a blatantly obvious cashgrab so I used it as a prime example. I have zero sympathy for CDPR and their media zealots that reviewed the game favourably because they got a yellow chair.

 

[DForce]

I read the first page because, you know, I have better things to do. Is this what you’re pissing your knickers over?

It was obvious that you didn't look at the thread because you were so quick to defend their actions.

You're saying people can't move on, yet the people who don't like it can't seem to do it.

Take a look at The Last of Us HBO series thread and tell me who are the ones who can't move on.

 

[The Eradicator]

Thank you for the perfect demonstration of what I meant when I talked about "petty". Some people still being haunted by fictional pixel design of one character.
Last year's most GOTY winning game still in everyone's head after one and half years and I am still confused as to why my favorite game of all time is such a controversial focus point for so many haters that can't let go of it.
It is quite amazing what nerve Neil struck there.

Really looking forward to what Naughty Dog is doing next. There are rumors of a Sci Fi game with a black lead. That is probably not sitting well with some people.

Another one... "anyone who doesn't like MY favorite game is a petty hater".

 

[Kenpachii]

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[Arenafighter]

No non no the only Review Bombing was TLOU2. The other Games are only crappy buggy Release. That has nothing to do with hate against a Game. I can fully understand people they buy a Game like GTA DE, Battlefield, Cyberpunk ect. and these Games running like shit.

 

[Banjo64]

It was obvious that you didn't look at the thread because you were so quick to defend their actions.

You're saying people can't move on, yet the people who don't like it can't seem to do it.

Take a look at The Last of Us HBO series thread and tell me who are the ones who can't move on.

‘Read this 5 page thread with 50 posts a page so you can see my POV’

You know you can always just quote the offending messages if it means this much to you.

 

[SnapShot]

I don't know about TLOUII but in cases like BF2042 and CP2077 it's completely justified considering the state they launched it.

 

[DForce]

‘Read this 5 page thread with 50 posts a page so you can see my POV’

You know you can always just quote the offending messages if it means this much to you.

You're the one who said people who like the game can't seem to move on from the fact that there are people who don't like it.

I offered evidence that people who don't like the game seem to bring it up more often.

I mean, you wouldn't admit to this because you're in most of the threads liking their comments.

 

[Banjo64]

You're the one who said people who like the game can't seem to move on from the fact that there are people who don't like it.

I offered evidence that people who don't like the game seem to bring it up more often.

I mean, you wouldn't admit to this because you're in most of the threads liking their comments.

You’re nuts man

 

[Ellery]

Another one... "anyone who doesn't like MY favorite game is a petty hater".

I didn't say that. There is a huge difference between doesn't like and review bombing 0s.

You do understand that and are just pretending you don't, right?

Right?

 

[WitchHunter]

I feel certain games are being targeted, I remember TLOU II had great industry reviews, but bad user reviews...not because the game deserved it but...It wasn't what trolls and specialist groups wanted it to be...The majority loved the game...It pushed the industry forward and is a milestone in every category, even the report form Microsoft agreed. I feel unjustified review bombing is happening to Battlefiled 2042..YES it has problems but thats with most games releasing today needing patches at launch...I feel its being unjustly review bombed. Same thing they tried to do with BFV because it was "woke". I do feel companies need to be held accountable for unfinished buggy products...

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Putting TLOU2 with the trainwreck that was Cyberpunk or how disappointing Battlefield is makes no sense.

TLOU2 is the biggest GOTY winner of last year, a game with a 93 on metacritic and a game that we're still talking about after a year and half.

TLOU2 was criticized because people expected fanservice or if a certain death was going to happen, it needed to happen in a heroic way instead of

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dying like a dog or a random npc which is what happened.

But i felt like that's just from people missing the point of that IP. No one is a hero, even in the first game. No one is special in there lmao.

Also, the user score on metacritic has been going up. When the game released it went as low as 2.4. The fact that's getting closer to a 6 is actually good.

 

[Saber]

Look at OP's post history to know they're here with a very specific mission to damage control negative reactions to Battlefield 2042.

OP already used sour tatics to fool most of people here. Even though he is mad over Battlefield, he used games like LOU2 so he could bait people to keep discussing in this thread. He knew that if he used only Battlefield for his tantruns people would woop his ass.

 

[Bragr]

Review bombing is the people's court.

We are sick and tired of bugs and glitches as a feature at launch, and developers that don't take the time to polish their games.

 

[Fake]

Majority of the review sites ive seen does not require you to buy a game for review, i mean excluding Steam.

Is there any review site actually does that?

Steam? PSN? Xbox Store? EA store? Epic Game Store?

All of them have review score that require you buy before give a score.

But they don't matter because.... Metacritic.

 

[Ellery]

Putting TLOU2 with the trainwreck that was Cyberpunk or how disappointing Battlefield is makes no sense.

TLOU2 is the biggest GOTY winner of last year, a game with a 93 on metacritic and a game that we're still talking about after a year and half.

TLOU2 was criticized because people expected fanservice or if a certain death was going to happen, it needed to happen in a heroic way instead of

Spoiler

dying like a dog or a random npc which is what happened.

But i felt like that's just from people missing the point of that IP. No one is a hero, even in the first game. No one is special in there lmao.

Also, the user score on metacritic has been going up. When the game released it went as low as 2.4. The fact that's getting closer to a 6 is actually good.

Review bombing is the people's court.

We are sick and tired of bugs and glitches as a feature at launch, and developers that don't take the time to polish their games.

Well put. Like I said there is a huge difference between subjective choices people may dislike in games. Which is completely fine. I love games like TLOU2, The Witcher 3, Bloodborne, God of War, Final Fantasy 7,8,9, Ocarina of Time, Silent Hill 2 and if someone doesn't then it is their loss.

But when a game is an unplayable mess it is very different and people have the right and should call out the publishers/developers. One of the big reasons why I haven't bought Cyberpunk 2077 despite looking forward to it for 7 years. Gotta vote with my wallet and there is nothing worse than rushed games or technical flawed games.

 

[Shut0wen]

I feel certain games are being targeted, I remember TLOU II had great industry reviews, but bad user reviews...not because the game deserved it but...It wasn't what trolls and specialist groups wanted it to be...The majority loved the game...It pushed the industry forward and is a milestone in every category, even the report form Microsoft agreed. I feel unjustified review bombing is happening to Battlefiled 2042..YES it has problems but thats with most games releasing today needing patches at launch...I feel its being unjustly review bombed. Same thing they tried to do with BFV because it was "woke". I do feel companies need to be held accountable for unfinished buggy products...

For someone who hasnt played all 3 games mentioned but from reading a majority of peoples opinions tlou2 recieved shit because of the story, cyberpunk was a mess but personally i think people expected it to be a deeper rpg like the witcher 3, (previews and even cdpr even said ot was closer to gta then witcher 3) and i did play bf2042 beta and again from reading peoples opinions it seems justified, dice have literally given up creating a campaign which means theres more people to do the multiplayer, beta to me felt nothing like bf and closer to cod and apex and also its incredibly buggy, theres bugs in the game that allow you to look through walls, destruction is a step down from bad company 2 and again its filled with nothing but bugs, personally i feel these bad reviews are justified with the exception of TLOU2 because its a story neil drunkman wants to tell and hopefully his views for a 3rd game havnt altered the story for the next game but CDPR came out apologising about the state of the game and DICE will fix bf at some point but even i think DICE has got some major problems at the studio that need fixed because BF shouldnt be in the state that its in, id agree with you if it was BFV because the review bombing on that gane was ridiculous all because a woman solider had a robot arm but cyberpunk and bf are in a really bad state, you wouldnt buy an unfinished car or tv so why a video game?

 

[azertydu91]

Sorry, but you've contradicted yourself several times. 10 and 0 are scores, so they can be used. At that point you don't agree with someone giving 0 because you pretty much ignore his point. You're so much focused in the score number rather than 'why' he gave such a lower number.

I believe there are games that deserves 10 and games that deserves 0, much of poor/bad mobile games that teach kids to pursuit their parents credit cards for example. For me deserves a 0.

You and some here pretty much have this metacritic score syndrome where you get so attached to the number instead of their reasons about that number.

And there is no objective reviewers around game journalist. All the things you point, they fully ignore like bugs, perfomance, price tag, etc...
Example: Only when Digital Foundry point out the GTA trilogy flaws, games sites like IGN took advantage of the potential clicks to do no mercy in their review. IGN never give a shit about a techincal review.

At the end of they, review should be criticized when read. I remember me criticizing IGN review of Crash Team Racing Nitro Fuel and one folk here saying 'bruh man, why are you whining? IGN gave 8 of 10 for CTR' and me like 'wtf, don't you read the review or just accept the score'. The score never match the reading. Never.

And people have the right to do whatever they want. This apply to money and opinions. Some people like, some people dislike. Nobody need to be lawer of any company.

I don't think you fully read my post.Because I explicitly say that you can't have an objective review except if you just look at the technical part (fps bugs etc...).
Then I expained my opinion on why to me a 0 is a nonsense because if a game can launch and is payable it deserves more, just like students can't have 0 unless they give back a blank paper.
Then I mentionned the problem of having to review a game amongst a franchise and trying to have a more objective review system and the hard task of reviewing a game and you talk about your opinion, that has nothing to do about what I'm talking about, sure everyone can have his opinion so your point is ?

It weird because your post read like you felt attacked when I simply explained that there are multiple ways to review a game, on those ways only one can be objective(the one about performance, which is the one you said I ignored strangely because it is the first of the two way I talk about).And the other one which then explained that there are multiple factors that can either explain highest and lowest notes.I encourage you to maybe read again my post and yours to see where you took a wrong turn answering.

 

[azertydu91]

Thats a key thing expectations.

Someone buying a $7 indie game will rate a game different than a $70 game. Even a B-tier $40 game has different expectations. And people also compare against competing games.

And BF 2042 is $70 tier, big budget, longstanding franchise and compared against COD. If 2042 was a $5 indie game everyone would love it.

Also as you said, the 0 score. It's a hyperbolic score that many people will gravitate to when pissed. Not that it's really a 0. It might be a 4 or 5/10. But for some people, if you're going to rate something bad, might as well drill it with a 0.

I always had trouble with this "punishment" score, but I feel like that's how society is today things are either the best or the worst, there's no longer nuance or subtlety.If you hated the games it has to be 0 if you liked it it has to be a perfect 10.There are so many games I hate and I would never rate them at 0, because I can understand what that wanted to do even if I'm not the target.
I mean would I like to play my little pony?
No I would probably hate it but I wouldn't give it a 0 ....we're okay I don't play my little pony games okay?....Guys?...It's hot in here right?

 

[Fuz]

But their patience has limits and it shows now.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

For someone who hasnt played all 3 games mentioned but from reading a majority of peoples opinions tlou2 recieved shit because of the story, cyberpunk was a mess but personally i think people expected it to be a deeper rpg like the witcher 3, (previews and even cdpr even said ot was closer to gta then witcher 3) and i did play bf2042 beta and again from reading peoples opinions it seems justified, dice have literally given up creating a campaign which means theres more people to do the multiplayer, beta to me felt nothing like bf and closer to cod and apex and also its incredibly buggy, theres bugs in the game that allow you to look through walls, destruction is a step down from bad company 2 and again its filled with nothing but bugs, personally i feel these bad reviews are justified with the exception of TLOU2 because its a story neil drunkman wants to tell and hopefully his views for a 3rd game havnt altered the story for the next game but CDPR came out apologising about the state of the game and DICE will fix bf at some point but even i think DICE has got some major problems at the studio that need fixed because BF shouldnt be in the state that its in, id agree with you if it was BFV because the review bombing on that gane was ridiculous all because a woman solider had a robot arm but cyberpunk and bf are in a really bad state, you wouldnt buy an unfinished car or tv so why a video game?

I honestly can't even begin to understand how so much misinformation happened around TLOU2's story. I remember how somehow Abby was criticized for being a trans character...and then ended up not even being that. Then suddenly it's just not realistic how she looks so big. But somehow that was never a problem when male characters in a post-apocalyptic world look all bulky. The goal post just kept moving around for a few months.

Also...for a game that's supposedly so "woke" i found it weird how all black characters died like they did, lmao.

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that Abby boss battle with that huge dude at the end of the Seraphite's island...holy shit, what was that about? lmao or how Isaac died for no reason after being hyped since Ellie's days.

I feel those leaks damaged a lot of the promo campaign for that game release and never understood how Ellie being a lesbian affected this game...but somehow that was never an issue with the DLC of the first game.

It definitely felt...targeted.

 

[Tokio Blues]

I think that is not fair the comparison between BF2042, CP2077 and TLOU2.

TLOU2 was just review bombed for being "too woke" and for some parts of the story. The game is just excellent, you can like it the story or not, but the game is one of the best of the generations. CP2077 is just an unfinished, buggy and messy game. It was rushed, and it was clearly in an alpha stage. BF2042, is not a battlefield game.