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[nowhat]

I recently saw Dunkey complain about this too. Angry Joe as well.

Regarding Angry Joe - his reviews can be really spoilery. Sony has very strict review guidelines for their single-player titles if you want a code beforehand, for obvious reasons. So, play ball or not. But nothing of value has really been lost, the channel has been going downhill for me for years. I really don't care about him ranting about the latest Marvel TV episode for 30 minutes.

 

[Punished Miku]

Angry Joe is an angry loser who has outed himself many times on streams. The way he plays games passing the controller around, drunk and high barely even paying attention is not at all professional.

That ... sounds like accurate research for the consumer though lol.

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

Witcher 1 and they even used his picture.

This is some of the cringiest shit I've listened too all week. This is who you simping for??

 

[laynelane]

For The Witcher 3?

That term/phrase was used well before that game was a thing. He may have just given it more exposure for the normies in the vidcast generation.

No, it was from a video on an earlier Witcher game. It was also not meant as a complimentary term in any way.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It was also not meant as a complimentary term in any way.

But PC gamers took that shit back, WE TOOK IT BACK!

 

[Lupingosei]

Regarding Angry Joe - his reviews can be really spoilery. Sony has very strict review guidelines for their single-player titles if you want a code beforehand, for obvious reasons. So, play ball or not. But nothing of value has really been lost, the channel has been going downhill for me for years. I really don't care about him ranting about the latest Marvel TV episode for 30 minutes.

People are defending this. If you do not play as Sony wants it, you don't get a review code.

And while defending they are not shy in showing their absolute ignorance when it comes to gaming.

 

[mckmas8808]

Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart - Zero Punctuation - The Escapist

This week on Zero Punctuation, Yahtzee reviews Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, the exclusively PlayStation 5 adventure from Insomniac Games.

www.escapistmagazine.com

How far up their own ass are Sony nowadays. Holy shit.

Censoring Japanese games, not giving reviewers copies, because they don't like their style?

I am very happy, that I did not buy a PS5.

Who cares. Stop being so entitled.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I'm failing to see how his videos can even be classified as reviews

 

[fart town usa]

The Escapist can afford to buy a game.

Yahtzee is satire at best and his comment is in really poor taste. Honestly wish I hadn't read it cause now when I watch his videos I'm going to picture him being pissy about not getting a R&C review code, lol.

People don't watch Yahtzee to learn about a game, we watch it to see him savage it and laugh.

 

[ManaByte]

People are defending this. If you do not play as Sony wants it, you don't get a review code.

And while defending they are not shy in showing their absolute ignorance when it comes to gaming.

No, you're showing your absolute ignorance to how review copies work. EVERY SINGLE company, be it games or movies, have rules people have to follow in order to get early access to review content. Movies have very specific rules for social media reactions, review times, spoilers, etc. So do games. If you don't play by the rules you don't get jack shit.

 

[DeepEnigma]

People are defending this. If you do not play as Sony wants it, you don't get a review code.

And while defending they are not shy in showing their absolute ignorance when it comes to gaming.

 

[Lupingosei]

Who cares. Stop being so entitled.

If you can not make fun of games anymore or beeing edgy without the publishers getting butthurt. I care.

But as long as the fanboys defend this, Sony can pretty much do what they want.

 

[Abriael_GN]

Since someone isn't getting it, let me reiterate this from the point of view of someone who has been working in gaming media for 20 years.

Giving review copies to *anyone* is not an obligation for *any* company. Companies can have whatever motivation they want for not granting anyone a free copy of *their* product. It's their prerogative, no matter if you're pewdiepie with 110 million subscribers or a beginner blogger that makes 110 views a month.

I'm actually rather surprised that this needs to be explained.

 

[SJRB]

Making a thing out of not getting a free "review" copy is the saddest shit.

 

[DeepEnigma]

If you can not make fun of games anymore or beeing edgy without the publishers getting butthurt. I care.

But as long as the fanboys defend this, Sony can pretty much do what they want.

YOU CAN!

On your own dime. I don't see Dunkey crying, and he gets millies on his vids as well.

 

[mckmas8808]

If you can not make fun of games anymore or beeing edgy without the publishers getting butthurt. I care.

But as long as the fanboys defend this, Sony can pretty much do what they want.

In that case.............this reviewer can...................


Buy.........................The.......................Game

 

[Banjo64]

Absolutely embarrassing by Sony.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

If you can not make fun of games anymore or beeing edgy without the publishers getting butthurt. I care.

But as long as the fanboys defend this, Sony can pretty much do what they want.

That's an argument you'd bring to the table if Sony took down his video or something

This is textbook entitlement

 

[fart town usa]

For those unfamiliar with Yahtzee,

This is my personal favorite. God damn is it funny.

 

[Lambdadelta]

Oh wow. how entitled can one be. That's just pathetic honestly.

 

[Lupingosei]

No, you're showing your absolute ignorance to how review copies work. EVERY SINGLE company, be it games or movies, have rules people have to follow in order to get early access to review content. Movies have very specific rules for social media reactions, review times, spoilers, etc. So do games. If you don't play by the rules you don't get jack shit.

I worked 10 years as a reviewer. I still own debug systems of the PS2, XBox and several other systems. I have hundreds of beta games and still some that were never released.

This was never an issue. You only had an NDA about what information you could release and when, but never did you not get a copy, because they did not like your style. I probably know more about the business the you ever will.

This is new, but as long as the fanboys blindly are sucking up to their beloved companies they can do that.

 

[TheAssist]

I like his style a lot, but he is not a reviewer. He is making fun of games, no matter how good they are. He takes the tiniest imperfections and presents it in a way that paints the game in a negative light.

Of course they are free to not give him a copy, since he is not upholding any journalistic standard on his end. Imagine you are a dev or publisher and you give someone a free copy of your work so that person can make fun of your work and earn money with it.

I didnt expect him to get a copy from anyone tbh.

Again, I like his style and I watch him, but he can buy his own "review" copies and put it in his taxes. The people that open up iPhones to show you how unrepairable they are don't get review copies either.

 

[yurinka]

I understand why companies may be interested on sending free copies to 'serious' 'profesional' gaming media or big streamers, but I don't see why game companies are supposed to send copies to this kind of people or to absolutely all gaming media or streamers. They're free to choose who gets them.

 

[ManaByte]

I worked 10 years as a reviewer. I still own debug systems of the PS2, XBox and several other systems. I have hundreds of beta games and still some that were never released.

This was never an issue. You only had an NDA about what information you could release and when, but never did you not get a copy, because they did not like your style. I probably know more about the business the you ever will.

This is new, but as long as the fanboys blindly are sucking up to their beloved companies they can do that.

You're kidding right? This is how it's always worked. I remember having AD Vision telling me they wouldn't send us (IGN) review copies if we had a certain reviewer review them.

 

[spons]

His videos are hilarious and I totally understand why they didn't give him a copy.

 

[nowhat]

People are defending this. If you do not play as Sony wants it, you don't get a review code.

And while defending they are not shy in showing their absolute ignorance when it comes to gaming.

Defending this? It's just how it's always been. I'm defending it the same way I'm defending the sky being blue.

 

[Lupingosei]

I like his style a lot, but he is not a reviewer. He is making fun of games, no matter how good they are. He takes the tiniest imperfections and presents it in a way that paints the game in a negative light.

No, he does not, if he genuinely likes a game, he praises it.

And making fun of stuff is all that pitch meetings on screenrant do for example.

 

[Abriael_GN]

I worked 10 years as a reviewer. I still own debug systems of the PS2, XBox and several other systems. I have hundreds of beta games and still some that were never released.

This was never an issue. You only had an NDA about what information you could release and when, but never did you not get a copy, because they did not like your style. I probably know more about the business the you ever will.

This is new, but as long as the fanboys blindly are sucking up to their beloved companies they can do that.

This is simply false. So here are two cases:

1: You're lying to support a false point and the "reviewer" (trite comedian) you're for some reason a fanboy of.
2: You've been lucky and never ran into a company that did not care to give you a copy for whatever reason (and whatever reason is valid. It's their product and no one's entitled to it).

Regardless of which it is, publishers declining to provide review copies to MANY media outlets for whatever reason (including style and overall tone of the publication) are by no means a new thing.

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

It's just how it's always been.

That's the problem. We're literally being OPRRESSED by Sony right now and you just sit back and take it like a bitch. Rise up, gamers

 

[Keihart]

This is kinda funny, i mean, not wanting him to review your game and only saving your self 1 copy of the game is as insecure as you can get.
He review it anyway, and he was critical of it as any other game, the stinginess had 0 repercussions besides making Sony look like an insecure bitch.

 

[DeepEnigma]

That's the problem. We're literally being OPRRESSED by Sony right now and you just sit back and take it like a bitch. Rise up, gamers

 

[Captain Toad]

I don't know who that is, but who cares? These companies are not obligated to give review copies.

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

besides making Sony look like an insecure bitch.

It's not Sony who looks like an insecure bitch here.

 

[Javthusiast]

His Cyberpunk review had over a million views on youtube, so about 10 -15 times of you average Kotaku / Polygon coverage.

Cyberpunk still a thing?

CDPR still exists?

 

[nowhat]

Rise up, gamers

You're right comrade! To the barricades!

...but I just made myself another GT and got into a really comfy position on the couch, how about when the next nontroversy happens?

 

[Lupingosei]

Regardless of which it is, publishers declining to provide review copies to MANY media outlets for whatever reason (including style and overall tone of the publication) are by no means a new thing.

They did not do that in the past, it changed and got worse and worse and this is just a new low.

 

[Punished Miku]

The only time I really condone this is when Bethesda was blacklisting Kotaku. That just made me feel great all around.

My stance on it is that obviously Sony doesn't owe people copies. But if people are denied copies specifically because of the content of their reviews, I personally would like to know about it. Then when I see reviews out, I can add that information to the rest of the info I have and determine how much I trust what I'm seeing. If companies are trying to pick reviewers, I want to know about it. If they're trying to tell people to specifically not talk about the entire 2nd half of TLoU2, I want to know about it.

But no one can know about any of this if anytime anyone speaks about it they're called entitled.

 

[Captain Toad]

This is kinda funny, i mean, not wanting him to review your game and only saving your self 1 copy of the game is as insecure as you can get.
He review it anyway, and he was critical of it as any other game, the stinginess had 0 repercussions besides making Sony look like an insecure bitch.

Someone looks like an insecure bitch alright, but it isn't Sony.

 

[Enjay]

People really need to stop putting overpaid youtubers or twitch streamers front and center of these problems.

 

[Keihart]

It's not Sony who looks like an insecure bitch here.

They are the ones not wanting the edgy reviewer to have their approval.
Indie games have more confidence than that.
Little dick insecure bitch Sony on full swing.

 

[Abriael_GN]

They did not do that in the past, it changed and got worse and worse and this is just a new low.

The first time I saw it happen was about 19 years ago. So what "past" are you talking about?

 

[Con-Z-epT]

He called Rivet "Snatchet".

His "reviews" are incredible hilarious.

I never decided to buy a game upon his reception so i couldn't care less if he gets free review copies on time for a test.

Nobody should take him to seriously and i think Sony should be above all of this.

 

[Kokoloko85]

Boo hoo op. Something tells me you wouldnt want a PS5 anyway….

 

[CuteFaceJay]

The level of disrespect.

 

[Abriael_GN]

My stance on it is that obviously Sony doesn't owe people copies. But if people are denied copies specifically because of the content of their reviews, I personally would like to know about it.

It's not a matter of content. Sony quite obviously doesn't consider their "reviews" a review. That's what "tone" means.

Which is on point.

And if you want to hear a bunch of entitled babies whine that they didn't get free stuff, good for you, I guess?

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Embarrassing thread. I'd hide for a bit after this one op.

 

[DeepEnigma]

They are the ones not wanting the edgy reviewer to have their approval.
Indie games have more confidence than that.
Little dick insecure bitch Sony on full swing.

How does it have a full swing, if it's so little?

Demonstrate. Thanks.

 

[Punished Miku]

It's not a matter of content. Sony quite obviously doesn't consider their "reviews" a review.

Which is on point.

If that is actually true, then fine. But it's kinda vague the way their statement reads.

 

[Keihart]

How does it have a full swing, if it's so little?

Demonstrate. Thanks.

it makes it even more petty

 

[Lupingosei]

The first time I saw it happen was about 19 years ago. So what "past" are you talking about?

I worked in the industry from 1999 to 2009 and we never ever did not get a review copy or anything like that. Maybe it was different in the US.