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So Sony did not give Jahtzee (Zero Punctuation) a review copy of Ratchet & Clank because they don't like his style.
- Thread starter Lupingosei
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
WHY CAN'T HE GET FREE SHIT!
ManaByte
Gold Member
How about this one.
When MGS2 was coming out, Kojima ordered NO ONE was to get early access to the game (likely to protect the Raiden twist). That meant NO ONE could play or review it before release. Everyone would be on the same page. No early review copies... Unless you're a website executive editor who was sleeping with Konami PR on the side. Then you got the game two weeks early to post hands on over a weekend when the competition wasn't working.
nowhat
Member
I mean, at one point Bethesda didn't send review copies to any media outlet. So as far as new lows go...
Holammer
Member
What's with all the whining? Sony defense squad is kicking in doors because Sony sempai was ridiculed and R&C: Ripped a Fart did not get a glowing review?
ZP/Escapist buys review copies most of the time already and getting a review copy is the exception. It's even made fun of when it actually happens. You'd know that if you watched the show
What makes his tangent interesting is the Sony quote and the mention of review guides. A reminder that early game reviews by industry and YTbers are made by pathetic whores that agree with and follow the guidelines.
ZP/Escapist buys review copies most of the time already and getting a review copy is the exception. It's even made fun of when it actually happens. You'd know that if you watched the show
What makes his tangent interesting is the Sony quote and the mention of review guides. A reminder that early game reviews by industry and YTbers are made by pathetic whores that agree with and follow the guidelines.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Dude during the N64 era Nintendo didn't send anything out. They brought a system with the cart locked into the slot and watched you play it.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
So here's an anecdote.
Lately, I'm having fun reviewing add-ons for Microsoft Flight Simulator. It's relaxing and provides content that not many outlets offer, so that has become a bit of a thing this past year.
Recently, I contacted a developer that released an interesting airport asking whether they were willing to provide a review copy.
Their response was "Not interested." That's it.
My response was "Fair enough."
I've worked since 2001 on both sides of the pond, both on print and web. Publishers declining review copies for whatever reason has always been a thing.
Lately, I'm having fun reviewing add-ons for Microsoft Flight Simulator. It's relaxing and provides content that not many outlets offer, so that has become a bit of a thing this past year.
Recently, I contacted a developer that released an interesting airport asking whether they were willing to provide a review copy.
Their response was "Not interested." That's it.
My response was "Fair enough."
I've worked since 2001 on both sides of the pond, both on print and web. Publishers declining review copies for whatever reason has always been a thing.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
If Sony had said ‘we do not consider you a reviewer’, that would have been absolutely fine.
The fact they have an issue with his previous ‘tone’, so have clearly sent him review copies in the past, is what makes Sony look like a bitch here.
I hate the press, but the idea of reviews is that you accept them indiscriminately.
The whole sending out ‘review guidelines’ is just a complete joke.
nowhat
Member
That's the problem with circlejerks - you may have fun in a group, or you may end up getting all the spunk all over you. Such is life.
Captain Toad
Banned
Some people sure get a lot longer rope on here.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Rockstar will blacklist you if you don't give them a 10. I witnessed them trying to strongarm a reviewer to change a 9.7 to a 10.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Who is "jahtzee" anyway?
ArtemisClydeFrog
Banned
You know damn well it wouldn't. OP would have had a seizure if he read that
Lupingosei
Banned
There is a difference if everybody is getting nothing and people getting nothing because they don't like their style.
But I guess people would also defend Eidos now if they blackmailed Gamespot because Gerstmann did not like the game.
They are not entitled to a review copy or advertisement.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
What grade are you going into?
ManaByte
Gold Member
What grade are 12 year olds in?
nowhat
Member
...but Zero Punctuation is?
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Review guides usually inform you about stuff like which parts of the story are considered a spoiler and shouldn't be mentioned or which things are known issues and are going to be fixed with a day one patch. Which is entirely fair.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Banned
That's what they basically said that in a more PR friendly way
Keihart
Member
Do you work at Sony?
GrayFoxPL
Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Lupingosei
Banned
I never had that experience. People were invited on events over and over again, even if they trashed games before.
People were writing articles about how Molyneux sucks for example and they still were invited to events and could interview him.
Lupingosei
Banned
Did you even read what I wrote?
nowhat
Member
So. You diss people for not knowing how the industry works, while not knowing how the industry works.
One thing is for sure, you definitely have a background in games journalism.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's not about trashing a game. Why do you ignore this little nugget?
Edge trashes all the time, and they get their copies, same with Polygon.
It's about what they (the publisher) deem an actual review vs. satire. Once again, Dunkey gets millions on his videos, every single video. He doesn't go all bitchmade for not getting copies on his satirical "reviews."
He knows the game.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Only when I post in here. Hows your summer job of mowing lawns going?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Banjo64
cumsessed
I don’t know Ass, I’d say ‘I don’t like your tone’ to a 5 year old. I think they should have just a said ‘satirical content no longer qualifies for a review code’. Probably as PR friendly as it get.
Great Hair
Banned
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
The fact that you've never experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I've experienced it and saw it happen to others, for a wide variety of reasons that most times had nothing to do with negative coverage.
ManaByte
Gold Member
This isn't about Sony. Every single publisher on the face of the planet works this way.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yeah, I think he is commenting on the OP and some tryhards making it out to be. What one would call, a honeypot.
Little Chicken
Member
I'm genuinely surprised that not only is this guy still around, he still averages 250k views per review! Last time I watched one of his videos was about a decade ago, a lot of catching up to do!
Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
What about David Jaffe
Lupingosei
Banned
Venom Snake
Member
They didn't send me a free copy either. And i would give this game at least a 9/10 and a handjob.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
No. It's ok because *all* publishers are entirely entitled to grant or deny free stuff to whoever they want. It's *their* stuff.
Receiving free product as review copies is not a right, regardless of who you are or the reach you have.
It's not a difficult concept, is it?
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Lupingosei
Banned
The free review copy is just a nice smokescreen the fanboys have built up, so people who do not get free stuff get angry at the guy as well.
It was about, we don't like your tone, so we will not give it to you.
ManaByte
Gold Member
"I make $26K a month on YouTube but mean Sony won't give me a $70 game for free!"
Ass of Can Whooping
Banned
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Which is entirely ok.
I also wouldn't give free copies of my product (if I had a product) to someone who turns it into comedy and misleadingly calls it a review.
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Lupingosei
Banned
Yes, Eidos was right all along as well, when they told Gamespot, that they have to remove the Kane & Lynch review or upgrade the score because nobody is entitled to review copies or advertisement.
Sorry, I did not understand that. You are right.