bender
What time is it?
Pretty much. Some of the concepts were interesting like Haiku writing or the Hot Bath Memories, but most of the meaty combat was uninteresting outside of the duels.
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Ghost Of Tsushima Director's Cut comes to PS5 and PS4 on August 20!
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Pretty much. Some of the concepts were interesting like Haiku writing or the Hot Bath Memories, but most of the meaty combat was uninteresting outside of the duels.
HellforLeather
Member
this game aint 50 hours long...
skit_data
Member
The $10 extra should be put in relation to the ”basic cost” IMO. I could live with $20, but a 50% increase from there seems like too much of a slope for it to make sense in my eyes.
TrueLegend
Member
Time to pet foxes again.
mejin
Member
The ire is because most next-gen upgrades aren't paid, and should stay that way.
Tell this to nintendo, they charge for full price for theirs.
We are lucky Sony doesn't have the same pedigree yet.
Bladed Thesis
Member
Why "Director's Cut" though?
Ezekiel_
Banned
EDMIX
Member
"Director's Cut"
Wonder what was cut from the original they wanted to include, but couldn't? Because, from what I see it's just DLC.
? huh? But that "DLC" could be the very thing they originally wanted to have, but couldn't.......
I personally hated the story and some parts are so bad, its laughable, but its still a very, very solid game, fun exploration and fun sword combat. (don't go into this expecting great stealth, its like Great Value stealth lol) Still worth full price as the experience you get is a very solid one with responsive controls, fluid movement, amazing animations etc. This will be a title folks will be talking about for years, it has room to grow as a series though, but this first entry of a series is as solid as Horizon was, so they can only go up from here.
Its both.
Its $19.99 if you own Ghost on PS4 and want the Directors Cut on PS4.
It is then $9.99 more if you get that and then buy a PS5 and want the PS5 version.
Thus = $29.99.
Think about it....if you own Ghost on PS4, you can pay $20 for Directors Cut.
If you then later on own a PS5 and want them features, you can then pay the extra $10 to get the PS5 version....
I'm not sure how I can break it down better tbh (someone else might though lol)
Inevitable. They are likely waiting until Factions is almost done to announce that.
This. I never understand people worried about how others spend their fucking money. If you not paying theses bills, don't worry about it. I see no reason for a developer to be out here working for free for their hardwork. I have nothing against it. Does that user want to work for free? Where is their free work that we can get shit from?
Ulysses 31
Member
Kinda glad I didn't play GoT and Death Stranding yet with these Director's Cuts.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
The 10$ extra for the ps5 tax is the directors cut
Markio128
Member
Maybe I’m not as entitled as some.The "ire" (disappointment and mild annoyance is a more appropriate definition) is because most next-gen upgrades aren't paid, and should stay that way.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
This is just Bullshit to thwart people from buying used copies and trying to get an upgrade. Why specifically try to target more thrifty customers who bought into your ecosystem when it also fucks over the people who bought the game at launch on PS4 and would like to play a little expansion? It should be free upgrade of the base game with the option to purchase the DLC for those that want it because some people really just want to play the game for a few hours to see how it runs on their newish PS5s.20 for the ps4 to ps5 seems fair
For dlc and dual sense support
30 is just dirty..
Go f yourself
base game already runs 60 on ps5
Not going to pay 30 for an island and dualsense support
wait are they pretending the game now runs 4k 60 on ps5?
THE FUCK? xd
skit_data
Member
Yeah, true. I guess the Iki expansion gets a little bit overlooked, but I still think it’s slightly too much for my taste.
This is in no way the worst deal ever, it’s still all right.
The worst deal was when i owned Control and the Season Pass for it and 505 games asked me to pay full price for the Ultimate Edition to get PS5 benefits. Thankfully PS+ sorted that out.
kyliethicc
Member
Wasn't what I was expecting given that rumor, but I like this. Iki expansion, then a PS5 port. Not bad. And soon.
So Death Stranding DC will be the same pricing, I assume. Wonder if it'll have a PS4 version.
Higher resolution too. Better audio, lip sync for Japanese VO, haptics, and more.
Basically a PS4 user can decide to spend $20 to get the DLC.
Then spend $10 whenever to get the PS5 version.
So Death Stranding DC will be the same pricing, I assume. Wonder if it'll have a PS4 version.
They added a director's commentary with a historian about the island. And new DLC."Director's Cut"
Wonder what was cut from the original they wanted to include, but couldn't? Because, from what I see it's just DLC.
Higher resolution too. Better audio, lip sync for Japanese VO, haptics, and more.
$20. Its then $10 to upgrade to PS5 from PS4.
Basically a PS4 user can decide to spend $20 to get the DLC.
Then spend $10 whenever to get the PS5 version.
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It's fine, I never thought it was much of a stealth game. I'm just hoping the action and the world is interesting enough for me to keep playing it to the end.
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SafeOrAlone
Banned
The first game had enough content. I think it's time to innovate on the formula, not charge for more of, essentially, the same.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Some of yall such kill joys, ugh. If you're not interested in the game then just move on!
HawarMiran
Banned
oh I see some people already look for flaws 
It's crazy how 3rd parties are doing a better job than Sony. Mortal Kombat 11 Ultimate was a free upgrade.
I don't mind they charge for the expansion. But that should be optional. The native PS5 version should have been free upgrade and a small cost for the expansion DLC depending on the size of the content.
I don't mind they charge for the expansion. But that should be optional. The native PS5 version should have been free upgrade and a small cost for the expansion DLC depending on the size of the content.
tmlDan
Member
$20
Tommi84
Member
Ghost of Tsushima is NOT part of the PS Plus Collection. What are you referring to exactly, here?
SafeOrAlone
Banned
Is this a new thing or your standard procedure?
No criticism allowed? Say something nice or nothing at all?
I mean, this is a forum for discussion.
Nothing wrong with calling out flaws though, right?oh I see some people already look for flaws
tmlDan
Member
Did they add a new expansion? did they entirely change the mouth movements in the entire game to match another language? did they add 3D audio? did they add good haptics not half assed ones?
It takes man hours to do this, none of this is free to do.
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odhiex
Member
Correct. And if you have the base PS4 version and don't want to upgrade to any of the GoTDC, you could still play it on the PS5 via BC with the framerate enhancement...for free.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Ah yes, the magical "entitled" definition that gets abused when one has no arguments.
By all means, feel free to keep rejoicing about having to give more money to a corporation for small updates to a product you already paid for.
Besides the fact that the lip sync is done automatically nowadays, as there are tools for that (the difference is simply that on PS5 cutscenes run in real-time, so that's a possibility), Microsoft offers a large amount of free content to Microsoft Flight Simulator users every two months.
In comparison, this is... quite unimpressive.
The stuff included in the "PS5 upgrade" pretty much qualifies as stuff that almost every other developer/publisher would offer as a free update.
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No one gives a fuck about lipsynce if it's paid. And as for dualsense and 3d audio that shit shouldn't cost money. Square Enix allowed people to upgrade for free on Final Fantasy 7. And the extra content was paid. They could have done the same with the upgrade and charged for Ikishima island DLC. But Sony got greedy.
HawarMiran
Banned
What flaws? The pricing?
tmlDan
Member
all i heard from you is no they didn't - so there you go. If that doesn't justify it for you then stfu and don't buy it lol
theclaw135
Banned
Ouch. Well it'd be better if they held this announcement back, until PS5's are sold in stores.
tmlDan
Member
What content? never knew MS had haptics and 3D audio in anything. Lip sync is automated? since when.Ah yes, the magical "entitled" definition that gets abused when one has no arguments.
By all means, feel free to keep rejoicing about having to give more money to a corporation for small updates to a product you already paid for.
Besides the fact that the lip sync is done automatically nowadays, as there are tools for that (the difference is simply that on PS5 cutscenes run in real-time, so that's a possibility), Microsoft offers a large amount amount of free content to MSFS users every two months.
In comparison, this is... quite unimpressive.
EDMIX
Member
OH trust, it will. The world they crafted feels alive and fighting random bandits and doing small side quest along your journey feels deeply rewarding. You can tell they take lots of notes from the Zatoichi series ie I'm going from point A to point B and on my travels, theses people needed my help lol The general theme is very engaging if you like that sort of stuff and you can tell a lot of this is a love letter to those films and concepts. My only issue with that really is I feel they could have gone darker, what was happening in Japan at that time was extremely dark, like rape dark, like killing kids dark and it seems like Sucker Punch is making a game rated M, but acting like its really PG-13 lol
So I'm hoping they let loose with a sequel and show how humans REALLY behave vs this cartoon idea of human behavior. So they can keep fanboying and talking about how much they reallllllly love Kurosawa, but they are not ready for that Rashōmon life, I enjoy the game, but I feel the training wheels on this one and even a fucking film of something like this wouldn't be this watered down and sugar coated. If a film from the 50's can have a dark theme, a game from 2020 has no excuses the year some shit like The Last Of Us 2 releases. So I do hope they actually trust consumers are very much ok with that. I'd still buy a sequel day 1 regardless of what they do, but I do hope they treat that subject matter with the rawness that it deserves.
I won't buy it but doesn't mean I can't say Sony are ripping people off. Their 3rd party partners are doing a better job than them. Final Fantasy 7 free upgrade is as significant if not more than ghost of Tsushima PS5 port. You stating due to DualSense and 3d audio man hours they should charge and I simply stated the final fantasy 7 Intergrade upgrade was free and the upgrade was quite significant.
EDMIX
Member
Well I don't know how many Sony titles they really actually call that. The Last Of Us literally got a landslide Game Of The Year count, during a year a GTA released and even then they still called it "Remastered" on PS4 vs GOTY or anything like that. So the don't often do that, I think the did that with Spiderman, so it seems its not a normal thing for them to always call it that or something.
So who knows. The Last Of Us 2 could be called remastered or GOTY edition or Directors cut, but going based on how they did it in the past, it could very well be remastered, but none of this is set in stone. With Death Stranding being called "Directors Cut" maybe Sony feels it makes more sense to call the remasters with extras that as a company thing. Who knows.
K KAL2006 " Final Fantasy 7 free upgrade is as significant if not more than ghost of Tsushima PS5 port" I mean, I agree, but Square is not Sony and Sony is not Square. Square is also cutting that shit up in several parts to sell instead of just waiting until they have a completed version of FFVII remake, but how Square does business is based on what makes sense for them (keep in mind, I don't even disagree with how they are doing FFVII remake, simply it needs be pointed out)
No developer has an ode to work for free JUST cause Square has a free upgrade for FFVII remake. It makes no sense. That might work for Square, but I have nothing against Sony actually wanting to get paid for the work the teams put into the product.
I'm ok with both moves based on respective publisher and their goals.
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Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Since Technology. Try googling "video games automatic lip sync" and educate yourself before you get flippant to defend your beloved corporation.
Also, haptics and 3D audio aren't content. They're features and stuff that is normally offered in free updates.
As for "what content," Microsoft Flight Simulator's World Updates include airports, tens of new models for point of interest, new photogrammetry, and higher level of detail for entire regions. Every two months. For free.
And that's on top of the sim updates every other month that add new features and improvements.
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tmlDan
Member
But it wasn't even close to the amount of effort SP put in, i know this because i played it as well.
You can't run your mouth saying it's a rip off when it's justified for people who like those features. If you don't care just get the expansion and not the Ps5 version.
out of the big 3 Sony has been giving us free shit all the time, free MP expansions and free content, so soon people forget.
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
Yes! I almost bought it on sale but I knew they were gonna re-release on PS5.