ToadMan
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It’s not the open world part of that claim that refers to Dragon’s Dogma.
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Is it fair to say Sony is leading the industry when it comes to open worlds?
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It’s not the open world part of that claim that refers to Dragon’s Dogma.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Well it's easy to say that Sony makes the best open world games if you deny other games as being open world.
anothertech
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Ghosts wins them all imo
Balducci30
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Fallout and Horizon aren’t open world games? What??? They are by definition open world
turtlepowa
Banned
What many people forget is that Sony spends abslutely insane amounts of money for advertising their big AAA games worldwide with tv spots, radio, internet ads, paid articles, billboards, their Sony truck and so on. Because of that sales numbers of those higly advertised games are not necessarily an indicator for quality.
Balducci30
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That doesn’t guarantee anything. Horizon is a great game what in the hell am I reading in this thread. It’s simple - Horizon is great. RDR 2 is great. Fallout is open world. Rockstar are the leaders in innovating on open world games (and maybe Nintendo with BOTW). There are some seriously bewildering takes going on
GymWolf
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The only thing better in days gone are the more arcadey controls and having the ordes and more freedom during the missions (not the story heavy scripted ones tho) and maybe a better real time weather system, rdr2 beat the shit out of dg for all the remaining aspects, don't get your hopes too high.
Also some part of the graphics are better in days gone.
And i liked days gone, i have like 100 hours on it.
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cormack12
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Lmao what BS is this? So Breath of the Wild is not open world either? Tell me, how do you get off the plateau without doing any linear stuff first?
With takes these bad I guess you're in production for the new Tommy Wisseau movie?
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regawdless
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Sony does great games and is certainly leading in regards to 3rd person action games. But open world games specifically? Nah.
turtlepowa
Banned
That guarantees a lot, otherwise they wouldn't spend shitloads of money for it. With enough marketing you can sell everything no matter how shitty it is. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying Horizon is a bad game, but there is no doubt sales would be much less if Sony would have marketed it like let's say Dreams.
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Eric187
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Well then you must not work in game design then. Because if they wanted to change it they could. So by definition it is a choice. They chose to make it that way. Could they make it twitchy as hell like Witcher 3 or assassins creed where you can unrealistically turn on a dime, I bet you all the money in the world they could of. And I’m sure internally they had a lot of discussions on if it was appropriate to way they wanted the final game to be represented. So yeah maybe you don’t like it but in the end you are wrong.
Eric187
Banned
I’m a Sony fanboy I absolutely love them but I know BS when I see it. Anybody who thinks their the king of open world games are drinking way too much of that kool aid or only playing Sony 1st party gamesThis thread should be renamed to "The Sony fanboy thread", my god
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Turning the thread toIs it fair to say Sony is leading the industry
when it comes to open worlds?
Something else lol no they ain’t the best at open world
Bo_Hazem
Banned
If they are not leading, then they're at the very top 3 which is not bad. To me I prefer their open world over the rest because they're always story-dense and mature, solid animation, impressive gameplay. RDR2 has a laughable story, insultingly easy difficulty, and tedious chores that have zero rewards in game. GTA? The 18+ game that only kids love.
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Ezquimacore
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This site is like The Onion, right?
Ezquimacore
Banned
Top 3 would be
1. Rockstar
2 Ubisoft
3.Nintendo... yes Nintendo. Sony doesn't have any open world better than breath of the wild or xenoblade.
Maybe top 5
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Coarse you prefer Sony game over others games it’s you. Witcher 3 , assassins creed, GTA , watchdogs all better than what Sony has created open world wise. That’s not to say they produced bad games it’s just there are better out there. Spider-Man is amazing open world game btw
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Well, it all depends on what type of games you prefer. I personally find Rockstar as a shit open-world producer right now. GTA5 is shit and RDR2 as well, RDR1 was phenomenal and GTA4 had amazing story. I love Ubisoft open-world games as well. Nintendo? Those with all due respect are a bit more childish games to my liking. It's ok to have different tastes, you know.
GTA4 was amazing to me although gameplay is shit as always, I love AC, also I love watchdogs, and indeed Witcher 3 as well. But preferring Sony games more than those doesn't automatically means everything else is shit. Also you maybe need to learn that I'm not you, and you're not me, which is ok. Don't be offended by my preference.
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
We’re am I offended?
I just think your choice is biased based on your love of Sony. Like I said they produce some awesome games but the open world games are not at the level of what others produce at the moment
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SpongebobSquaredance
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Since when do combat mechanics set the standard for a good open world?
I'm just curious because that seems like a random point to make.
I'm just curious because that seems like a random point to make.
Yselacrey00
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I can go to wherever I want in BotW right from the beginning. I can even go and fight the last boss. Horizon is not an open world game, just accept it. It's a mediocre game with nothing to do in its so called "open world". You cant access 90% of the map. First you have to play like 10 hours, to gain access to another portion, then you have to play another 10 hours, and so on. That's not open world at all. That's just a big world but in reality you know you have to go through the story or else you won't see the rest of the map.
Like I said,. If Horizon is open world then FFVIII Remake is too.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Horizon is an open world where they literally just put stuff wherever. This is the ice bit, this is the desert bit, this is green bit. All with a few miles.
It's a game I eally enjoyed once I was able to just go with it but it is not a great example of an open world. One of the worst.
It's a game I eally enjoyed once I was able to just go with it but it is not a great example of an open world. One of the worst.
Yselacrey00
Banned
I think you got it backwards. I'm saying Sony doesn't even develop open world games. Just games with huge worlds where you have nothing to do but to go through the main story.
Yselacrey00
Banned
Thank you. It's just an empty field. I don't get how can anyone could call that an open world. You cant do anything on it but to keep going through the main story. You cant even visit the world until the very end of the game.
digoutyoursoul
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Nah, Rockstar is in my opinion.
Balducci30
Member
It’s factually an open world dude I don’t know what to tell you. This is not an opinion thing - it’s an open world. FF7R is not - Horizon is. It’s just facts man this thesis is preposterous. You may not like it or how it was done but it is still an open world game. Weird hill to die on here
Yselacrey00
Banned
Call it open world if you want, but if you do then you'll have to realize it is the worst "open world" game ever released.
RoadHazard
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I love Sony 1st party player games, but hell no. GoW isn't open world, Horizon has a TERRIBLE open world (pretty to look at, but absolutely nothing interesting going on), and Spider-man is kinda the same (amazing gameplay, beautiful but uneventful city). GoT I haven't played yet, so I can't say anything about that.
But no, Sony are not anywhere close to being the best at open world yet. Nintendo absolutely crushed them with their first real attempt at it.
But no, Sony are not anywhere close to being the best at open world yet. Nintendo absolutely crushed them with their first real attempt at it.
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Bo_Hazem
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Not sure what are you saying there. If you are talking about open worlds with things to do I would agree, but overall they use the open world to serve their storytelling with no searching for lost cats quests. Days Gone was wonderful, perfection all around from storytelling to open world. Also zombies are real and you can really clear open areas from zombies instead of cheap respawning in nearly all open worlds, reminds me of Death Stranding and when you clean areas from PT's.
I love Sony for a reason, or let's see overwhelming reasons. Biased? Nope, I play plenty of other games as well but the difference in production quality is simply staggering.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
See open world is about doing things other than story otherwise why would you need to have a vast open world?
mid it’s just about story and that’s it then it doesn’t need to be open world as such. Assassins creed games have so much to do in them and story is mostly great on them all. The latest you can clock 160 hours and still not see everything.
Bo_Hazem
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I finished every bit of AC Valhalla at 162 hours. Had a blast in most of it but the lack of quality control is very obvious there and they execute epic climaxes in a very underwhelming way. I give it a 9/10 and I'm a big fan of AC series.
I can say that Days Gone is the most realized open-world from Sony's part. Rockstar? They were great, but they have some of the shittiest stories especially on GTA5 and RDR2, I can't believe that they are made by the same company that made the masterpiece, perfect game RDR1 back in the day. Rockstar is changed into a very cringy, trying to be edgy approach that only nerds would laugh at.
Japanese games? Their open world are so dense in general, but those silly side quest, which seems like part of the Japanese culture, gives me a sour taste. Yakuza 0 had silly as fuck side quests but fun as hell, so it depends.
Overall, most open world games seem to break and disturb the immersion of the main story, which isn't always so bad but that degrades the impact of the main story.
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cormack12
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No you can't. Show me a video of you or anyone leaving the plateau without doing the first four shrines and getting the glider and the despawn fog dissipating.
Read the comments and you'll see why.
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Memorabilia
Member
Lol um No.
1) Rockstar
2) Ubisoft
3) CDPR (Witcher 3 alone gets them here, Cyberpunk 2077 TBD if they ever fully fix it)
4) Nintendo
5) Sony
1) Rockstar
2) Ubisoft
3) CDPR (Witcher 3 alone gets them here, Cyberpunk 2077 TBD if they ever fully fix it)
4) Nintendo
5) Sony
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Ellery
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Sony easily has the best single player games for sure, but best open world I am not sure about. I would say no, but that also depends on what you define as open world games.
The best Open World titles are probably multiplat with GTA V, RDR 2, Witcher 3 and a few others that are too old now to mention. BOTW is also a good one to bring up, because it is a lot better than the Playstation open world games.
BUT. That is a good thing. I can't stand too many open world games and entire franchises can be ruined by going open world. The ones that are doing it best are Naughty Dog. Wide linear games that have a very generous 25-35 hour completion time.
The best Open World titles are probably multiplat with GTA V, RDR 2, Witcher 3 and a few others that are too old now to mention. BOTW is also a good one to bring up, because it is a lot better than the Playstation open world games.
BUT. That is a good thing. I can't stand too many open world games and entire franchises can be ruined by going open world. The ones that are doing it best are Naughty Dog. Wide linear games that have a very generous 25-35 hour completion time.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
I agree Valhalla is a solid 9/10 but your comparison of Days gone being Sony’s most open worl pales in comparison , look at the review scores they range from all the big sites from 3/10 to 6.5/10
Roberts
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Fallout 3 and Las Vegas, both RDR games, GTA, Witcher 3, Oblivion, Skyrim, a few Ubisoft games are way more immersive and interesting than most Sony open worlds. I liked Horizon and Spidey was fun as long as I didn’t divert my attention from the main storyline, but they are not exactly masterpieces. Didn’t like Days Gone, Gravity Rush 2 and Death Stranding is a disaster (even if a fascinating one). Tsushima looks dope, but I sold my PS4 before I got to try it out.
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
I don't have to work in game design to know that bad controls are a development failure.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
If you got the console, especially PS5 "free on PS Plus Collection", I would highly recommend you playing it. I fell for the critics first and bought it in a later date, then I was shocked of how underappreciated or purposely this game has been butchered for having what they called "boring white protagonist". You should be careful with the critics going forward as most of them aren't even gamers but agenda-filled hypocrites.
Yoda
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Rockstar does open world far better than Sony's best offerings. I'd even rate Ubisoft above Sony... and this is coming from someone who doesn't like the recent Assassin's Creed games. Now if you said Action Adventure/Heavy Set piece games, then sure, no one else has the God of War/TLOU type games down to a science like Sony.
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