bitbydeath
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Nah, Days Gone blows away RDR2 in mechanics, gunplay, gameplay, interactions, weather implementations, even graphics.
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Is it fair to say Sony is leading the industry when it comes to open worlds?
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The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Thank you for correcting me that my opinion is wrong. What was I thinking.
Eric187
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Lol yea I have days gone and no it’s not by any means better in any department. Except it has zombies. But undead nightmare did it way better too.
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Stuart360
Member
Graphics?, nah. Not PC RDR2 anyway. I hope you are right about everything else though as i'm looking forward to the game.
Yselacrey00
Banned
So now we call open world to anything that isn't hallways? That's not "open world". Open world is the ability to visit the world in any way you want without being bound to the story. Have you even played an open world game?
Examples of open world would be any GTA, Batman Arkham Knight, Driver, Breath of the Wild. I definitely wouldn't call fallout or Horizon open world games.
Stuart360
Member
Er Fallout and HZD are open world games. One huge map, that you can go anywhere whenever you want, and do missions, at least side missions, when you want.
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bitbydeath
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Well it’s all opinions but I’d argue RDR2 isn’t even as good as RDR1.Lol yea I have days gone and no it’s not by any means better in any department. Except it has zombies. But undead nightmare did it way better too.
Eric187
Banned
Don’t get your hopes up. Even after the patch it’s not anywhere near RDR2.
Yselacrey00
Banned
Not really. They have huge areas blocked until you pass some missions. Horizon is not open world, is just lazy game design. It has like 3 side quest that repeat themselves over and over so no.
Gamerguy84
Member
Days Gone was one of the best open worlds I've ever played.
Stuart360
Member
Oh dude, i dont know what to say. They are open world games. Sure there may be parts cut off until you pass a certain section in the story, but they are still open world. Same with Skyrim, and any game that has an open map that isnt restricted to individual levels.
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bitbydeath
Member
You’re in for a treat, it has a slow start but the dynamics of the world are like no other.
Yselacrey00
Banned
For me they aren't. That's like calling zelda games open world, which they aren't except for Zelda 1 and Breath of the wild.
Vaelka
Member
Even tho I don't like the game because of the combat, ESO shits on pretty much all open world games imo.
And you can play it as a singleplayer game too.
Skyrim tho?
The world feels empty.
And you can play it as a singleplayer game too.
Skyrim tho?
The world feels empty.
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bitbydeath
Member
RDR2 is still a buggy mess.
Eric187
Banned
Yea now I know you haven’t ever played the game. Nice way to out yourself bud.
bitbydeath
Member
I have, the gameplay is a mess.
Eric187
Banned
So please explained to me these technical bugs it has expert?
bitbydeath
Member
The movements are too slow, the controls are clunky, the buttons are a mess eg. having a single button to aim your gun at someone as well as interact with someone.
ArtemisClydeFrog
Banned
lmao it's not even an opinion, you're just wrong. How the fuck are Fallout and Horizon not open world games? What a dumb post.
Eric187
Banned
Technical problems usuals mean frame rate drop, screen tearing etc... but yea ok sure.
Eric187
Banned
Sadly even gamers on a gaming forum don’t seem to know what their taking about.
lmao it's not even an opinion, you're just wrong. How the fuck are Fallout and Horizon not open world games? What a dumb post.
bitbydeath
Member
The problems are much worse than that.
Eric187
Banned
Hey I get it the controls are too complicated for you no biggie bro.
bitbydeath
Member
At least you can admit it’s faults, this is why Days Gone is the better game. The technical issues you spoke of were fixed long ago.
Eric187
Banned
No faults in the game though. It controls and plays exactly how rockstar design it to play. Maybe you don’t like it and that’s fine. But objectively Sony Bend released a broken technical mess of a game that I paid 60 dollars for and rockstar released a fully finished product. Those are the facts so you can argue them all you want. Crazy how cyberpunk was removed when people wanted a refund but days gone never was.
Yselacrey00
Banned
What about horizon is open? Everything is locked out, that's the exact opposite of open. They have like 3 side quest that repeat themselves. The whole "open" world is just a lame excuse to not make a proper game. Have you even played the game? It's just an empty field.
lmao it's not even an opinion, you're just wrong. How the fuck are Fallout and Horizon not open world games? What a dumb post.
Eric187
Banned
Of course it’s open world game. Is it linear like last of us? Can you go do side quests? Can’t you ignore the main story for hours at a time and go explore other parts of the map? The game does not restrict you down a linear path. You are not going through “levels”. You are dropped into a world to explore at your leisure. That’s the definition of open world.
Jibran#one
Member
Even with all the gameplay quirks rdr2 has it literally shits on the entire open world games industry
There is nothing that comes even close to rdr2 in term of charters , story and it's open world
And I know this for a fact that only gta 6 or rdr 3 which might be like 10 years away will outdo it
There is nothing that comes even close to rdr2 in term of charters , story and it's open world
And I know this for a fact that only gta 6 or rdr 3 which might be like 10 years away will outdo it
Yselacrey00
Banned
Like I said, are we calling now everything that is not hallways an open world game?
In FFVIII Remake I can ignore the main story to do side quests for hours and that's the most hallway game I've played since N64 era.
Jibran#one
Member
As much as how good days gone , Spiderman and even btow is , fucks sake boys don't compare them with rdr2 ,
Is rdr2 perfect ? Fuck no, the controls are a mess but by God the world and story are 300 times better than anything on the market
Is rdr2 perfect ? Fuck no, the controls are a mess but by God the world and story are 300 times better than anything on the market
Eric187
Banned
Who said FF7R was open world? Not me. It’s linear with small hubs to explore. But FF-15 is open world. Do you understand the difference? Open world is a design standpoint. Usually what’s within the map you can climb over, go into, has a day/night cycle, weather effects, etc... In FF7R can you go from one end of Midgar to another? Does time of day change realistically? Does it have invisible barriers preventing you from accessing other areas? Yes it does but in FF-15 you can explore the entirety of the map. No invisible barriers except for where the map is finished.
Yselacrey00
Banned
Which goes against HZD. There are invisible barriers, you can't access the whole map right at the beginning. You have to go through hours and hours of gameplay to be able to explore the map. What does day and night cycles or weather effects have to do with open world?
In FFVII I can go from one end to another of the map at anytime I want.
Like I said, HZD developers didn't know how to make a game and decided to put an empty field and call it open world. Next post you're gonna say original Halo was open world too. There's a difference between and open world and and huge world. The main one is that you should have the ability to explore the whole world, hence the open world part, right from the beginning.
Eric187
Banned
Lol just forget it. If you can’t grasp what an open world design is then that on you.
Perrott
Gold Member
You are the one who's taking Horizon's sales as a way to measure the game's quality, I just said that if we used the same bar then COD would be the best game of the year every year - showing just how wrong your reasoning is.
Oh, and you can take all those insults of yours and fuck off. This is not 4chan or any of those dirtholes of the internet where you'd probably belong better than here.
Balducci30
Member
Huh? No, I don’t think that’s safe to say at all I think that’s probably highly debatable. I loved horizon but even I can see that as far as leading the charge in open worlds it’s mainly Ubisoft, Rockstar and Nintendo innovating in the open world arena rn
ArtemisClydeFrog
Banned
So now it's not even a proper game? I'd still love to hear how Fallout 4 isn't an open world.
bitbydeath
Member
Have you played RDR1? It doesn’t have the faults RDR2 has. Just because Rockstar isn’t fixing it doesn’t mean it’s not a fault.
Horizon is a critical and commercial success.
calling out people like you with bone headed unmerited comparison with Call of Duty... but your comparison just exposes your retarded narrative ...
Insults ? I am not afraid to call out people like you, I only post/comment about games/products I have played and finished.
I bet the success of all the SONY's published IP is killing you inside.
Yselacrey00
Banned
Think about it. Can I go to any part of the world right from the start or do I have to follow linear stuff first?
Same goes for Fallout.
FloatingIslands
Member
Mm no?
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Unresponsive controls are not a game design choice.
Shmunter
Member
Yeah, I have issues with Rockstar games. Multiple attempts at GTA5 and RDR2 with no luck. Drop them due to poor gameplay. 60fps may help with some of the molasses, will try if we ever get patches.
They really need to hire some gameplay focused staff for the next title.
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