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Nintendo Switch Pro Will Support 4K & Release This Year, According To Insider
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OnionSnake
Banned
Hoping this is the case, and for HDR!!!!
BabyfaceRe
Member
The rumours are heating up (again) , but there is no chance this happens this year for so many reasons:
-Switch is killing it, barely able to fulfill demand as is. Why dilute that further ?
-Pricing would be a mess. Switch still holds its price atm, with dlss 2 and 4k res there is no way this model wouldn't cost atleast 100 more , putting in the ball park of next gen. Comparing specs for price, it's hard to imagine any1 buying a switch pro over a next gen console accept Nintendo hardcores (and they already own a switch so....).
-Pandemic has been having a big impact on console manufacturers already, seems like poor timing.
-Switch hype is still real, already projected to be the killer hardware this Christmas, why make a new one?
-Relwasing a higher spec machine so earl will split the player base. Switch is about to lose out on the biggest 3rd party games in the next 1-3 years (as always happens with them), an updated model now would mean day one purchasers will lose out big time as new players have access to more games. (Cloud could make this irrelevant though.)
-Switch is killing it, barely able to fulfill demand as is. Why dilute that further ?
-Pricing would be a mess. Switch still holds its price atm, with dlss 2 and 4k res there is no way this model wouldn't cost atleast 100 more , putting in the ball park of next gen. Comparing specs for price, it's hard to imagine any1 buying a switch pro over a next gen console accept Nintendo hardcores (and they already own a switch so....).
-Pandemic has been having a big impact on console manufacturers already, seems like poor timing.
-Switch hype is still real, already projected to be the killer hardware this Christmas, why make a new one?
-Relwasing a higher spec machine so earl will split the player base. Switch is about to lose out on the biggest 3rd party games in the next 1-3 years (as always happens with them), an updated model now would mean day one purchasers will lose out big time as new players have access to more games. (Cloud could make this irrelevant though.)
MagnesG
Banned
You're right about the investor's meeting date, not sure about the latter part though.
Furukawa on 2 Feb 2020:
I think it's more like FY 2024 if we look at the full cycle of 8 years. So no.
As for the hybrid comment, I just thought that because the model different compared to traditional console we just can't refer to the past iteration lifecycle with the Switch. There's also a new way to remedy the pressure by releasing modular device for future build.
TKOFromTokyo
Member
I play it on a 37 inch 1080p tv, lol. It looks fine to me on it.
VGEsoterica
Member
lol I love all these "insider leaks"...every few months they come out...eventually someone will be right just by a battle of attrition
ToTTenTranz
Banned
The Switch was released at the end of FY2016 and at the end of FY2019 they said it was in the middle of its cycle. Even if you assume they meant the entirety of FY2020 would be "the middle", that would put FY2023 as the end. FY2024 is April 1st 2024 to March 31st 2025.
You can't fix the limitations of a 1GHz 4-core CPU or 4GB RAM with modules. Even if the Switch had a fast enough bus for an external GPU by implementing e.g. 4x PCIe3 through the USB-C port (which it doesn't, AFAIK it's only wired to the SoC's USB 3.0 pins), the rest of the system is still immensely constrained by today's standards.. let alone dragging this console all the way throughout 2024.
It's possible to make a gaming console with very fast and wide PCIe buses for extending the life of the hardware with additional co-processors, but the Switch isn't that console.
Yup. If every year you predict that a new console will be released the following year, I promise you can make an accurate prediction eventually.
MagnesG
Banned
Then it's FY2023 at least rather than FY2022.
Also I don't mean modular internals but modular in terms of the design build. Like iPhone iteration, past model support will be dropped when the time comes.
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Sushen
Member
If you want to stay on top, you should play ahead or you'll miss your chance. That happened so many times in game industry and sports.
ultrazilla
Gold Member
With DLSS 1080p/60fps *shouldn't* be a problem. But ultimately it'll come down to how ambitious the game is and how well the game developers utilize the hardware.
BabyfaceRe
Member
That's a very broad statement and I'd argue doesnt apply here. Nintendo is no longer a direct competitor with Sony and MS and hasn't been for awhile. They are the market leaders due to thier unique product(and ips) and thier relatively low price point.
As per my second point, if they release a switch Pro this year and it's even within a 50 range of next gen, then it will start to step back into direct competitor zone. This a risky (likely foolish) idea when side by side the power/experience difference between the devices is enormous. At that point the customer would have to really love the hybrid capabilities or be a huge Nintendo ip fan to pick a Switch over the other options.
Nintendo are more than happy to be the complimentary console, they gave up on being the bug dogs long ago. I cant see why Nintendo would proce themselves out of the market they created for themselves.
Kokoloko85
Member
Rather have BOTW run 60fps or steady fps lol than 4k
MagnesG
Banned
Idk man Age of Calamity, Bowser's Fury showed that Switch is struggling already with its own FP game.
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Farawayfromhell
Member
I'll believe it when I see it.
TheContact
Member
wow i didn't even think about the pro switch using dlss because nintendo partners with nvidia
interesting...........
interesting...........
JimboJones
Member
FloatingIslands
Member
No way this will happen.
Expect a PS4+ by 2024/2025. That'll be Switch 2.
Expect a PS4+ by 2024/2025. That'll be Switch 2.
grfunkulus
Banned
4k at or around switch screen size is an absurd waste of resources. They'd need to up the screen size by several inches at least, which would make the device cumbersome. Nintendo ain't known for those tiny bezels.
x@3f*oo_e!
Member
I think people are going to be disappointed if they are expecting DLSS in a mobile device, and possibly a bit delusional
The minimum for DLSS is a GTX 2060 - that has 52 TeraFLOPS of 'tensor'/'AI' FP compute (FP16 probably but that doesn't change much). Nobody has demonstrated anything like DLSS on lesser hardware, or a CPU etc.
Does anyone really think a mobile device will have enough power for DLSS ??
The minimum for DLSS is a GTX 2060 - that has 52 TeraFLOPS of 'tensor'/'AI' FP compute (FP16 probably but that doesn't change much). Nobody has demonstrated anything like DLSS on lesser hardware, or a CPU etc.
Does anyone really think a mobile device will have enough power for DLSS ??
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If they did a switch pro that did 4k, and if it was the same or similar form factor, no way would the portable screen be 4k. It would only be 4k output to the tv
Woopah
Member
My personal expectation is that this will replace the original Switch model. So rather than having a price cut, they'll add more value by beefing up the specs and that will allow them to continue the momentum and prolong the system's lifecycle. There may be some third party exclusives for it, but I expect Nintendo's own games to be on both devices for the next 3 years.
grfunkulus
Banned
That's what I gathered after reading the articles and the language used to talk about the 4k output. 1080p screen though . That makes sense
LiquidRex
Member
Open World Pokémon
Nintendo Switch Pro Will Support 4K & Release This Year, According To Insider
The Nintendo Switch Pro may be released this year.screenrant.com
Insider says the Switch Pro supports Nvidia DLSS upscaling and 4K, should be coming this year
It has been rumoured for quite some time now that Nintendo is working on a more powerful version of its popular Nintendo Switch system which has gained the moniker of the Switch Pro.mynintendonews.com
Rumour: 'Switch Pro' Console Still Aiming For 2021 Launch, According To Known Insider
"I'm confident it gets announced this year"www.nintendolife.com
Nintendo is unlocking their full power, these games will look so good in 4K.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Imagine the butthurt when the open world Pokemon is Switch Pro exclusive.
Before someone asks, yes there is precedent. Xenoblade and Fire Emblem were New 3DS exclusive.
Before someone asks, yes there is precedent. Xenoblade and Fire Emblem were New 3DS exclusive.
TrackZ
Member
Yeah, I'd be ecstatic for a 1440p 60fps Switch upgrade using DLSS to output to 4k display. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Ladioss
Member
It did. This rumor tends to show up every time Sony's momentum is wavering.
VictorVectors
Member
This is what Breath of the Wild looks like on PC in simple, free emulation.
On switch, the "upgraded" version of Breath of the Wild on console plays at sub 20 fps near the master sword.
It is honestly shocking to see it in action.
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CitizenZ
Banned
Tuesday - unknown game on Steam blowing up
Thursday - 'exclsuive' released on PC
Aldric
Member
It was mentioned by Mochizuki the former Wall Street Journal correspondant who's now writing for Bloomberg when he wrote about the Lite in early 2019. He said something like a more powerful Switch would release after the new cheaper model.
Speaking of him, he was also the one who broke the news about Sony abandoning Japan a few months ago and his report was confirmed by the recent development with Japan Studio. It gives more credibility to his recent article about the next Switch being able to output 4K resolution.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Now all Nintendo needs to do is squeeze 32 GB RAM an i9 and a 3080 into a handheld form factor with a screen then toss in a battery that lasts 4 hours or more and just think how great the games will be.
dolabla
Member
I'm dying to get a Switch. Wish they would just hurry up and announce the thing.
That looks pretty amazing.
That looks pretty amazing.
MiguelItUp
Member
I could certainly see a world where Pokemon Legends Arceus launches for the Switch Pro. It would definitely make movements. Along with BOTW2 and Splatoon 3.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
So for funsies y checked out the benchmarks between the tegra x1 and current top of the line smartphone gpus and we’re talking a 3x-4x uplift in performance.
Definitely a lot of room for improvement...
Definitely a lot of room for improvement...
Woopah
Member
I don't really understand your post. Why would a third party game replace a hardware revision?
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fart town usa
Gold Member
I'm incredibly ignorant when it comes to game engines and stuff but wouldn't 4k on a Switch be kind of moot due to the limited capacity of the Switch cartridges? I'm assuming if something can be displayed in 4k it's going to vastly increase the size of the game itself?
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Shodan09
Unconfirmed Member
Would love for this to be true. Even if none of the assets change, just getting games running at 4k with a solid framerate would be fantastic.
VictorVectors
Member
Switch titles generally don't hit 1080p well. 30 fps is a pipe dream even at 900p. By bringing the resolution down to 480p and pumping out a DLSS 1440p upscaled to 4K, we can eliminate anti aliasing costs and achieve exponential gains. If the processor is a modest 2x the power, we're looking at 4K upscales running 60 frames per second which would quiet the every criticism lately.
You're right though, textures will never match PS5 or XSX.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
I'd be happy with real 720p@60fps.
fart town usa
Gold Member
Thanks for that. It's funny, I'm like a mad scientist when it comes to hardware but I have zero clue how software related things work behind the scenes. Good to have people like you on the forum.
TheUndeadGamer
Member
The only thing I want from an upgrade/revision is better joy-cons. No more possibility of drift.
StateofMajora
Banned
Looks absolutely disgusting modded.
Rendering resolution doesn't affect file size. Textures, models etc. do.
Switch game cards are going to keep getting larger, Witcher 3 shipped on a 32GB card. By the time a switch 2 is actually able to have a generational leap over the launch switch the cards will be bigger as well.
Dampf
Member
If it's a modern Nvidia chip with tensor cores, it will have RT acceleration as well.
Silvawuff
Member
That's the joke.
Captain Toad
Banned
And the sales of those are exactly why Nintendo stopped doing that. And, from what I've seen, the Switch won't have any trouble running the game, unless it is just coded REALLY poorly.