SoloKingRobert
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What about Parity? Remedy doesn't want to upset fans on a competitive platform.
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DF: Control PS5 Vs Xbox Series X Raytracing Benchmark
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Mister Wolf
Gold Member
They know the Xbox has a stronger GPU. So far Hitmen 3 and DMC5 are the only games that really show it though. I expect there will be a difference in RE8 as well.
Riky
$MSFT
It's a raw GPU benchmark, the Series X as I've been saying has distinct advantages in GPU size and memory bandwidth, people tried to deny this with custom secret sauce, but here we see what we have always seen in PC land, a bigger GPU is better.
Those in denial are about to have a very long generation, best to accept it now.
Ladies and gentlemen, damn it was really only a matter of time.
onnextflix5
Member
Why dose this game not run better in the 60fps mode then, why dose ps5 run better in 60fps mode, u guys can keep photo mode advantage, we will take the real world advantage lol.
AGRacing
Member
Does require a minimum 40hz though... at least with my TV and every other one I've seen. If the minimum was 40 fps I completely agree this should be an option.
TheDude108
Member
Because just like the last generation the GPU was the only deciding factor in performance.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Yeah well maybe, but it's just a minor thing. Besides, DF is watched by a minority of people playing games.
Also this sort of difference is hardly felt, I got gifted DIRT 5 pre-patch on XSX and despite gaf would made me believe that it's trash version, I spent few night driving constantly.
This whole thing about DF face-offs is about fun or it's mildly interesting, nothing was really game breaking, probably since start of last gen....
Soulblighter31
Banned
People really pretend to not understand what this analysis is ? The framerate is locked during gameplay while unlocked in photomode. This is a way to see the differential between consoles because its unlocked.
Its amazing, sony fans are so distorted that they pretend they dont get what this shows and are trying to say it doesnt matter because its not gameplay. Amazing.
How did sony manage to produce such brainwashed and religiously loyal fans ? The loyalty for this corporation is on par with religious fanatics
Mr. PlayStation
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MaulerX
Member
Yes of course that's why the average is there. Clear advantage and proof that the overhead is there. Remedy should just unlock the framerate in Ray-Tracing mode. But they won't have the guts because they obviously want parity between both consoles.
sncvsrtoip
Member
couse photomode is artfical situation good just for pure gpu difference benchmarking and real gameplay is more complex with cpu/api influence etc
Mr Moose
Member
Series X drops about the same or more in gameplay than the PS5, and then has the stuttering on top of it. Like I said earlier, this is interesting but pointless. You can't play photomode.
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
It's not, it gives us hard numbers.
For what can be seen there looks like this game could receive a RT 60fps mode like Spider Man.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Basically the performance differences are the same as expected according to the specs.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You may want to reconsider this after Phil made an entire fan base wait years to start dropping some games on their platform. They even worshipped the guy at E3.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Low Moral Fibre
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It's a shame the consoles don't have a DLSS equivalent as it looks like they would hit 60fps+ at reconstructed 1440p which would look pretty nice imo.
'You've been saying'? And where did you get that idea from Riky? Your amazing intuition and knowldege? or did you just read the same fucking spec sheets that millions of other people have also seen?
Everyone and their mother knows about the spec differences between these systems from day one, but that doesn't change the fact that in the vast majority of games the perfromance has been equal or even slightly in favour of PS5. Because believe it or not, a 'raw GPU benchmark' isn't the only thing that dictates the final real performance of a system in every situation. That's what you can't seem to get into your head.
Mr Moose
Member
They won't add the option for 1080p/60fps, they said so on Twitter.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Perhaps we could get something for both platforms from AMD in the near future?
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
Yes, but they could.
The SeX's at least have enough RT margin to make it possible lowering the resolution a bit.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
That's where I've been at since comparisons started coming in. XSX's GPU has been performing better than PS5's (relatively more often), while PS5's CPU has been performing better than XSX's. This was also evident in frame rate battles as well as loading times (which rely on CPUs most of the time).
nowhat
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Mr. PlayStation
Member
I am slightly offended by your post Mr Moose, cos I spend a lot of time in photo mode in every damn game I play
. Full disclosure, I complete the games and even go onto platinum some of them when time permits
ethomaz
Banned
Nobody never denied Series X has 2TF additional computer power lol
People pointed all the time what Cerny showed... you can't efficient use them in gaming... it is nice to see you can use them in static Photo Modes.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
So a benchmark that confirms everything that we knew about the GPU differences?
Remedy should give the XSX a full 60 mode its hovering close enough a relaxed DSR could get this game that high.
This generation/forum is going to get really messy as more games take advantage of the extra power available to the XSX.
Im probably gonna have to take self imposed ban whenever a big multiplatform title shows up.
Remedy should give the XSX a full 60 mode its hovering close enough a relaxed DSR could get this game that high.
This generation/forum is going to get really messy as more games take advantage of the extra power available to the XSX.
Im probably gonna have to take self imposed ban whenever a big multiplatform title shows up.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
It's not about RT though. RT performance is exactly the same on both. Same settings; same resolution.
Mr Moose
Member
In photomode, sure, but we've seen it in gameplay and they come out around the same (a few dips here and there, red room shows higher dips on Series X, and there's a bug that gives big stutters every so often too).
Edit: That might've been in the performance mode where the bigger dips in the red room where, not RT.
Edit: Yup, ignore the last part of this comment, the bigger drops in red room than PS5 were in the 60fps non-RT mode.
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nowhat
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The tools have finally arrived? Or just a single tool to the thread?
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martino
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Mr. PlayStation
Member
We finally found the teraflops!
hiding in photo mode the whole time!
This thread is already turning to be comedy gold without any bashing or antagonizing other members.
Andodalf
Banned
Funny how last gen everyone assumed games with parity were forced, and the ones with differences were truth, but this gen the script flips and we're supposed to believe the Ties are the gospel.
I wonder why you guys have changed your minds?
onnextflix5
Member
Tower of power!!
Ds: only in photo mode
Ds: only in photo mode
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Mr Moose
Member
Something seems off about her hair but the game mostly looks nice from what I have seen (haven't played it yet, I am lazy and playing Genshin Impact).
We need good kart games on the next gen twins
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Mr. PlayStation
Member
It's got terrific art direction, some fantastic lighting and atmosphere with particle effects. But somewhere it's lacking the oomph factor that you see in other games of the same scale and scope.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
This is it, guys. I am buying an Xbox Series X for playing Control.
After all, you do need very high frame rates when taking photos in Photo Mode
After all, you do need very high frame rates when taking photos in Photo Mode
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Die Namek Ability
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What i find interesting is that A you would need a 2070s or so which is more inline with expectations and B the 16 percent diff seems about right with the paper specs.
Kumomeme
Member
lol people suddenly chant xbox is winning 'again'
did i miss something? isnt earlier benchmark after launch shows how xsx fall behind ps5 on lot of games to the point people suddenly shield them up with 'tools' excuse? i notice there Control file size thread past this few days and there debate of bcpack vs kraken thread suddenly bump up again.
eitherway, this is not unexpected. i face palm hard if xsx doesnt have advantage in RT since it has more cu. they should has advantages in fps too. maybe this time they found the tools? ms need to makesure this trend is continue.
did i miss something? isnt earlier benchmark after launch shows how xsx fall behind ps5 on lot of games to the point people suddenly shield them up with 'tools' excuse? i notice there Control file size thread past this few days and there debate of bcpack vs kraken thread suddenly bump up again.
eitherway, this is not unexpected. i face palm hard if xsx doesnt have advantage in RT since it has more cu. they should has advantages in fps too. maybe this time they found the tools? ms need to makesure this trend is continue.
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I don't know or give a shit what people said last gen, or who 'you guys' is. I wasn't here and never spoke about such things.
All I'm seeing is what's happening right now: Xbox fanboys spent the last year talking up 'massive' power differences between these systems, and they were told by more reasonable people that it's only an 18% GPU difference, and now here we have a GPU test showing an average of 16% difference, and Xbox fanboys are acting like this is some huge revelation and victory.