"Xbox Game Pass has now hit over 18 million subscribers, while its Xbox Live gaming network now has over 100 million monthly active users."
It's all in MS wording.
Xbox Game Pass over 18 million subscribers, Xbox Live passes 100 million
Top Microsoft subscriptions and services hit record highs with FY21 Q2.www.windowscentral.com
Little did you know this thread would actually become the concern thread itself, looks like you won your bet.
Those kids look too smart to be the ones posting here.
Here some sony fanboys analyzing xbox financial data
No that's not exactly what I quoted that MS said.
Right. That’s why the questions will always remain. At least until the statements are clear. Saying 100 million live when gold subs are a paying a fee is bogus. Especially, once again, when the gold subs tie into GP numbers and get people free GP.
you’re right. It breaks down to .03 cents a month for 36 months. Not free
No they say subscribers which means how many people are currently subscribed
But all active users on live are not paying a subscription fee. That’s why they say 100 million active and it’s making it out to be like they’re all paying a fee. I think what
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is saying is, if the 18 million GP number is touted the same, there’s room for interpretation as well. What category do each of the 18 million fall in? $1 loophole 3 years, $1 3 month, $1 1 month, $15 ultimate, $10pc, legacy $5 pc if there’re still around. Because 100 million active live users isn’t as impressive as 100 million gold users. That’s why they don’t say how many gold users(paying) there are.
But all active users on live are not paying a subscription fee. That’s why they say 100 million active and it’s making it out to be like they’re all paying a fee. I think what
with GP, they’ve done an incredible amount of promotions to get where they are and not all 18 million are locked in to 1 price and or 1 timeframe.
I guess you’re the second monkey because you can’t see what was written. The blame is on being clear. The point is, they’re touting one number(100 million) that is useless because it’s not all paid subscribers. So, is the second number (18 million GP) also useless if they are not all locked in at the $10 and $15 rate. Who cares how many active users they have? It’s meaningless. Now, once you start with meaningless numbers, it stands to reason more will or have followed.I never said active users were subscribed. Did you even read my previous posts? How is it making it look like they are paying a subscription fee on "active users"? They clearly say active users on Live (gold, silver, pc, mobile) vs subscribers on GP.
It's not rocket science to figure out what active users means. If someone is thinking they have 100 million subscribers for Gold, the blame lays on said person.
I see no room for interpretation w/ their numbers other than to try and downplay what a monumental success GP is by insinuating laughable tin foil hat interpretations of said numbers to deflect.
With that said, I'm out
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w/ his 18 million GP subscribers include people who canceled their subscription 
Impressive! Despite your reasonable assessment, you're literally wrong on. every. single. point.
I’m here looking for facts. I’m not getting them from Microsoft. Maybe you can tell me. How many gold subscribers are there? How many GP subs are paying $15,$10, or 03 cents? How long are they locked in for? Give me the facts.
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needs to do is prove those GP numbers also includes canceled GP subscriptions.
This would be A fact. Another fact would be that it is possible to lock in 3 years worth of this service at 3 cents a month.
I don’t have a theory. I have questions you can’t answer against statements that are being made. Unless Microsoft plans to go private and email you personally I’m going to read about it.
There are no gold subscription numbers. That’s one of my points. Why? Why are they so proudly volunteering GP numbers but not gold numbers?
I think it’s obvious they don’t want anyone to know. That’s why there are questions and why they are being questioned.
Oh not at all. I'm curious why you care about a service you don't have and as far I know, no plans to get, on a platform I don't believe you have. It is very curious!
So what you're saying is you're not happy about how they present the "meaningless" numbers, so you put a tin foil hat on and start interpretations of said numbers to deflect on their success? Great.
Now come back when you have actual facts to your theories to back up anything you've been spouting since this thread was opened. Same w/
Until then...
Yeah to be the Netflix of gaming you would have to be available on the most popular gaming platforms.
.... So if it's not profitable now... It's a good investment that could be profitable in the future.
I don't he knows what a loophole is. Loopholes aren't publicly advertised.Why do we keep calling the $1 conversion to GP a loop hole... It's advertised to get people to try Gamepass in hopes that you will keep it.... It's pretty generous they allow you to convert 3 years, it's a great deal just to try it and I don't understand how anyone could have anything bad to say about it. With that said, all of GP subscribers aren't taking advantage of that deal so there is a mixed bag of 18 million subs some paying $61 a year some paying $9-$15 a month.
So they at least made 18 million
But they could make up to 270 million each month off the current amount of subs. If my math is right
It’s all over the place. Just went to ign and there’s an article on how you can get 7 months of gp for $31 total even if you’re already a subscriber. That’s like the 6th different deal that’s out there. Which one are you on?
$1 divided by 36 months. It’s less but I rounded up.
I’m not. But as you can see referenced above it’s out there. Preload 3 years of gold and when you take the $1 deal it converts all your gold months to ultimate. Everyone is getting gold anyway you’re just paying it upfront. I think it’s cheaper too if your get gold cards and preload.
If I could get ps now for $1 for 3 years I would jump on that in a second and I think millions would as well. Ps now and gamepass are not the same though so to me it’s not a great comparison. Especially in their current structure. Ps now is a complimentary service and gamepass becomes more of a focus for Msoft every day. But I’m not saying it’s good or bad. It was about the numbers at 18 million subs and how many are using the $1 deal. There’s more than one. As far as gold is concerned, it’s required for online play and Msoft s biggest titles are multiplayer. Coupled with gamepass games also being multiplayer, if you have gamepass without a gold sub, you are devaluing it’s library because you’re getting halo or gears without the online component. But, we don’t know how many people sub gold because they never released those numbers.
I believe I'm paying $15 a month. The wife deals with the recurring BS far better than I do. $15 a month isn't that much, and it helps me out too.
I believe I'm paying $15 a month. The wife deals with the recurring BS far better than I do. $15 a month isn't that much, and it helps me out too.
Without Netflix, Hulu, Prime, XBL, Spotify, publications, and probably a whole lot of stuff I'm not even aware of. If all those companies didn't have their hands in my pockets to yank money from, just think of all the cash I'd have lying around? Surely it would all be spent on hookers and blow. I've already got enough bad habits. Don't need any more.
People also overhype everything Xbox so... its balanced?
