I think GP is solid my only issue is with a certain crowd of folks pretty much advocating that people stop buying games altogether lol.
18 million consumers paying 120$ a year means 2160.000.000 $. Besides, xbox sells more games than ever, increasing 51% this year. that´s a lot of money to share
Saying that Microsoft doesnt know how to make money is... well not very bright
Saying that every consumer from those 18 mil. subs spend 120$ in a year is not very bright too.
Game pass ultimate consumers pay 180$ a year, not 120$. I´m using common sense, so not 180$ each but 1$ neitherSaying that every consumer from those 18 mil. subs spend 120$ in a year is not very bright too.
You can filter itBecause they are at 391 right now so that's funny.
they say that because they have longlasting experience of fraudulent subscriptions to psplus, they think everyone is like themThe $1 offer is just a trial. You have to actually pay for the service beyond that.
The $1 offer is just a trial. You have to actually pay for the service beyond that.
Game pass ultimate consumers pay 180$ a year, not 120$. I´m using common sense, so not 180$ each but 1$ neither
You have to look at the entire picture. But I don't think anyone is truly threatened by itIf it's a game I want to own (the Yakuzas), I buy it. If it's just something I want to play but not necessarily own (The Medium), I just play it on GamePass.
I don't know how that's so threatening to some people.
they say that because they have longlasting experience of fraudulent subscriptions to psplus, they think everyone is like them
I think people trying to downplay gamepass are failing totally.Well you think that everyone buys GP(U) sub every month.
I think people trying to downplay gamepass are failing totally.
Well, you trying to overplay Gamepass numbers, especially in everyone buying sub every month throughout the year, so, you failed totally. But keep going. Do what you do best
Even the 180$ for Gold is inflated. The GPU promo started in June 2019 and at the time it was easier to stack Gold for half-price at Costco, Walmart or CDkeys. Mostly around Black Friday/Christmas but there was always good promos for Gold.$5 is GPU deal for 3 years. $181/36 months
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Phil Spencer:
---"The 15 million registered Game Pass users we have announced are the ones that are subscribed right now. When we announced it, we were referring to 15 million people who pay their monthly fee to enjoy the service. The figure did not refer to all users, but to those who were subscribed at the time."----
15 million 3 months ago, now 18 million. Next year 30 million? who knows.15 millon pays every month. LOL How the fuck someone can pay monthly sub if bunch of users are subscribed right now and they are subscribed to till 2022-23.
This isn't your day. Your so bright like Phil Spencer who talk out of his ass.
I know. Trust me. But it’s hard for people to keep up as it is and I didn’t want to add another price point into the conversation. I think too many take it personally because there are a lot of threads and posts they call “concern” threads or posts. This isn’t one and that’s not what I’m doing. Despite the many attempts at double talking and trying to “catch” me. There’s nothing to catch. There’s a bunch of offers to get this service for a REALLY cheap price. And that’s how they’ve managed to go from 10-15-18 million in 9 months and never mention 1 “milestone” number for the previous 3 years.Even the 180$ for Gold is inflated. The GPU promo started in June 2019 and at the time it was easier to stack Gold for half-price at Costco, Walmart or CDkeys. Mostly around Black Friday/Christmas but there was always good promos for Gold.
I always had at least 2 years of Gold stacked since the early 360 days.
If it were for the people who knows how to get games and services for REALLY cheap prize, there would be not gaming business.I know. Trust me. But it’s hard for people to keep up as it is and I didn’t want to add another price point into the conversation. I think too many take it personally because there are a lot of threads and posts they call “concern” threads or posts. This isn’t one and that’s not what I’m doing. Despite the many attempts at double talking and trying to “catch” me. There’s nothing to catch. There’s a bunch of offers to get this service for a REALLY cheap price. And that’s how they’ve managed to go from 10-15-18 million in 9 months and never mention 1 “milestone” number for the previous 3 years.
15 million 3 months ago, now 18 million.
Yes, and? You're proudly quoted Phil Spencer, I've asked you how the fuck someone can pay monthly sub if bunch of users are subscribed right now and they are subscribed till 2022-23 whoever did a XBL conversion to 2-3 year of GPU in 2019 or 2020
18 million subscribers doesnt mean that they are your clones and make the same tricks and use the same offers.Yes, and? I've asked you How the fuck someone can pay monthly sub if bunch of users are subscribed right now and they are subscribed till 2022-23 whoever did a XBL conversion to 2-3 year of GPU in 2019 or 2020
And bunch of people did. There is nothing else to disccuss here about that.Not everyone got 2-3 years in the conversion.
18 million subscribers doesnt mean that they are your clones and make the same tricks and use the same offers.
I think you’re having an issue understanding and some of us are having a bit of an issue understanding you. Something is getting lost in the translation. I’m not being rude or offensive, I’m just explainingIf it were for the people who knows how to get games and services for REALLY cheap prize, there would be not gaming business.
The point, very hard to catch for people friendly to tricks, is that very few people search for offers in brazil, they put their cardnumber and pay what they want in the system.
They analyze reality as 18 million subscribers of game pass were their clones.
And bunch of people did. There is nothing else to disccuss here about that.
Surely don't. But don't try to sell me ( or with Phil Spencer quote) that every user buys sub every month throughout the year.
When I make maths i dont do it as all subscribers are ultimate paying full prize, I´m taking into account users who use tricks.
18 million consumers paying 120$ a year means 2160.000.000 $. Besides, xbox sells more games than ever, increasing 51% this year. that´s a lot of money to share
Look at steam, playstation games fail, but xbox games skyrocket in sales. Maybe somebody forgot minecraft is the best selling game of history, making tons of money today?
Saying that Microsoft doesnt know how to make money is... well not very bright
arithmetic average estimationReaaaally? Here you didn't. You're the flip-flop guy, aren't ya
So, $181-$180= $1 I just got GP for $1
I this equation wrong? Because that .027 cents a month.
You proved my statement and so can I.
now. 18 million GP subscribers right?
How many are paying one of the 5 or 6 $1 deals that are constantly being offered?
There’s no answer. We don’t know.
Now who’s spreading it? Me or Msoft?
Because as far as I can see you’re defending them for making you frontload 3 years of a service that’s all markup(and is all but a necessity at this point) to subsidize another service that they’re in desperate need to make work. Then they’re yelling “10 million, 15 million 18 million!”
And you’re clapping like they won a championship but you’re accusing me of half truths.
and 6 game pass subscribers with deals: 200.000.000 cash
It’s the best dollar that millions of people have ever spent. INCREDIBLE valueYou just can't stop raving about how awesome GP
I have the pass, but probably won't renew it. TBH, most of the games they've got on it aren't that amazing to me. At least not wanting to be subscribed to it. I'd rather just buy them piecemeal when i want to get a game.
You do know Jim Ryan has already said there is something like Gamepass in the works for Sony but today isn't the day to discuss it?Xbox is winning the race of subscription services by big margin; in few years Google and Amazon will be fighting for second place
I have the pass, but probably won't renew it. TBH, most of the games they've got on it aren't that amazing to me. At least not wanting to be subscribed to it. I'd rather just buy them piecemeal when i want to get a game.
I think the fear is that people will get used to play games without actually having to buy them and that it will effect sales. It's not an invalid concern. I guess it will likely speed up the death of physical media at least, which is something I am personally dreading since I want the games I like on disc.If it's a game I want to own (the Yakuzas), I buy it. If it's just something I want to play but not necessarily own (The Medium), I just play it on GamePass.
I don't know how that's so threatening to some people.
No casuals would pay $15/month to play Sea of Thieves or Gears of War instead of playing free to play games like Candy Crush or Pokemon Go, or CS Go, or Fortnite or whatever F2P there is in the future. You are out of your mind.
You're confusing microsoft money with xbox money. Microsoft money is profitable. But if xbox had only its own money they would have bowed out after the 360. Microsoft be NECCING.Concerned sonygaf is concerned.
MS is one of the most profitable companies on earth, sitting on hundreds of billions in cash.
You're confusing microsoft money with xbox money. Microsoft money is profitable. But if xbox had only its own money they would have bowed out after the 360. Microsoft be NECCING.
The reason we discount the division is because if it was to stand on its own merit and profits without being backed by the computer software warchest it would have crumbled in much the same way as the pcfx.What are Xbox Divisions profits?
And why would we discount a division of a larger company thats seemingly focused on keeping the division alive?
You're confusing microsoft money with xbox money. Microsoft money is profitable. But if xbox had only its own money they would have bowed out after the 360. Microsoft be NECCING.
because there is the perception of paying for games is a bad thing,and its getting into a lot of people minds,you dont do that? fine,but thats whats not happening,the same happened to the mobile market,people got used to dont pay for shit,and we know the resultIf it's a game I want to own (the Yakuzas), I buy it. If it's just something I want to play but not necessarily own (The Medium), I just play it on GamePass.
I don't know how that's so threatening to some people.
thats why microsoft have shutdowna lot of things over the years?You know that not all products of a company needs to be profitable. Some products can cover the loss of others by halo effect.
So you are concerned MS will end the Xbox division? It's been 20 years but I'm sure if you sub to Gamepass you'll help to keep it going. Buying an Xbox would probably help too. Support the platform you love.thats why microsoft have shutdowna lot of things over the years?