What are the Xbox division profits? Because Microsoft hasn't even released them, so you must be an insider..?
No but they do release Xbox revenue. I wonder why that would be
Same for all the other departments, they release revenue for everything but profits only in entirety. Many corporations do that, probably 50% at least. In many fields, getting too specific with profit numbers could be problematic in regards to trade secrets, etc.What are the Xbox division profits? Because Microsoft hasn't even released them, so you must be an insider..?
No but they do release Xbox revenue. I wonder why that would be
Good post. Good attempt to reset what is being said. This is where most of my questions are. I don’t know why Msoft is allowed to scream sub numbers for GP 3 times in 9 months but it can’t be questioned for lack of context.
Why wouldn't they?
My biggest frustration is when people conflate questioning how the xbox division is doing in profit terms and how non-xbox divisions / shareholders look at the division, with run of the mill "xbox is doomed" posters. I'll agree with anyone that the xbox is doomed posters are either lacking in their analysis or just trolling. But whether a particular product / division / etc. generates ENOUGH profit is something major corporations question all the time.
Current subscribers.
As a parent and a gamer myself... It's a win win. Especially when kids nowadays tend to Stick to certain games. Every once in a while we find games to play together or they (or myself) try a game we typically wouldn't buy.
Bro if you aren’t on GP anymore, they aren’t going to count you. What business counts people that aren’t on their service anymore? Lmao what?
Yes they would.
They aren’t lying though as all they have to do is have someone subscribe one time and be counted.
I think you're right about your belief that they only count active accounts when they tout their subscribers. If they counted expired accounts that might lead to a host of lawsuits since they are publicly traded. But you guys might be arguing apples and oranges. Some people might believe active means paying a monthly subscription and inactive as having prepaid under a promo. I would say that definition is wrong, because active accounts just means active accounts in my book. But maybe that's where the disagreement lies?
I don’t doubt it’s profitability at some point. But theyre including numbers at $1, either loophole or short term. Plus, if you’re using the $15 sub rate, that includes gold sub. So, is that profitability tied together or are we separating the 2. Because I have to imagine gold subs profitability is high since they’re just charging people to play online and voice chat. That’s another reason why I want to see gold numbers as well. It’s also the reason why they’re not so inclined to share that data.
Why would a PS fanboy rage over anything related to GP?Seeing all these posts from raging PS fanboys gives me life, is like seeing the annoying kid running around the restaurant trip and hit ground.
That accusation is the easiest way to poopoo legitimate questions. The truth is, the last subset of “fanboy “ to rage was just a few days ago when Msoft doubled gold prices. Imagine if they had announced these numbers AND kept to that price raise? Then you’d be seeing some raging instead of deflecting.
Did I say I was worried? I am curious though. Since you’re so informed can you tell me how how many subs are using any of the $1 options(loophole or others) and how many gold subs are mixed in? Because if you’re looking for comedy that’s where the joke is bud.
the punchline is 18 million
Did I say I was worried? I am curious though. Since you’re so informed can you tell me how how many subs are using any of the $1 options(loophole or others) and how many gold subs are mixed in? Because if you’re looking for comedy that’s where the joke is bud.
GP is a non factor for PS.
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I hope you realize how idiotic you sound. The burden of proof is on you. No one is obligated to prove you wrong. You made the claim so you are responsible for providing proof.
Why are you curious? Do you use Gamepass and are worried it will go away if you don't use it enough? You can always support it to ensure it stays around. If you don't use it, it doesn't affect you whether it's profitable for MS or not.Did I say I was worried? I am curious though. Since you’re so informed can you tell me how how many subs are using any of the $1 options(loophole or others) and how many gold subs are mixed in? Because if you’re looking for comedy that’s where the joke is bud.
GP is a non factor for PS.
Ahh I am a PS fanboy now for stating the obvious?
I am not aware of this Sony's 2.2 million thing you are talking about?
"Netflix had 195.15 million paid subscribers worldwide as of the third quarter of 2020. Most Netflix subscribers are based in the United States, with the U.S. accounting for over 73 million of Netflix's total global subscriber base."
Netflix: number of subscribers worldwide 2024 | Statista
Globally, there were around 270 million Netflix subscribers in Q1 2024. The subscriber count increased by 9 million compared with Q4 2023.
When people like you mention Netflix is the same sentence as GP it's not a good look for GP.
If I was getting something for free I wouldn’t want to question it either. On the other hand, if millions are and I was paying an extra $10 a month for the same service I’d be annoyed too. If they don’t want the attention they can stop announcing their supposed “milestones” I they’re going to announce these “milestones” for all to hear then they are open to speculation. Are you paying $1 for 3 years or are you a sap who’s paying $15 a month while people are getting it for free with their gold sub?
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Is there something wrong with being curious? If I take part in the $1 deal am I “supporting” it? Or, am I being Trojan-horsed into paying for gold and upping its profitability or is it the other way around? What am I subsidizing?
Live users aren’t gold users. They say 100 million live users but earlier someone mentioned there’s only 50 million xboxes in the wild. Then there’s the doubling of the gold sub..."Xbox Game Pass has now hit over 18 million subscribers, while its Xbox Live gaming network now has over 100 million monthly active users."
It's all in MS wording.
Xbox Game Pass over 18 million subscribers, Xbox Live passes 100 million
Top Microsoft subscriptions and services hit record highs with FY21 Q2.
and for that reason you just want to overpay for games you could just get on sale for cheaper ? just pick games that you really need , not play any trash that they will give you there... how could you agree with monthly payment ? did they give us every month AAA games there ? yes then please i will buy it too
do you need all netflix movies ? MS said they will be netflix of games. ... so ... not thank you
