Support NeoGAF

[Handy Fake]

Neat.

 

[kyussman]

Looks like the console makers should be applauded for pulling out all the stops at these price points.
Lets hope that devs are able to create some really great experiences that push the medium forward this coming gen.....pretty exiting stuff!

 

[Tqaulity]

One thing I find surprising is that the performance mode runs which such high settings and had to make so few compromises to hit a near locked 60fps! That's a tremendous testament to the power of the PS5. Again I"ve said this before but it's worth reiterating: THERE HAS NEVER BEEN AN ASSASSIN'S CREED GAME ON CONSOLE RUN AT 60fps (including all the remasters). To do so with near ultra settings is remarkable.

I'm wondering what differences the PS5 quality makes aside from resolution? Is it a match for PC fully maxed?

 

[onnextflix5]

High end = 3060?

3060ti is like $400 on it own dude, so total cost is nearly a grand in pc terms, so yeh we can say its high end. especially the ps5 with the pc beating ssd.

 

[GHG]

5700XT card is outperforming the PS5 on Godfall btw

The PC version of GodFall doesn't have raytracing yet.

 

[assurdum]

One thing I find surprising is that the performance mode runs which such high settings and had to make so few compromises to hit a near locked 60fps! That's a tremendous testament to the power of the PS5. Again I"ve said this before but it's worth reiterating: THERE HAS NEVER BEEN AN ASSASSIN'S CREED GAME ON CONSOLE RUN AT 60fps (including all the remasters). To do so with near ultra settings is remarkable.

I'm wondering what differences the PS5 quality makes aside from resolution? Is it a match for PC fully maxed?

It's on the video.

 

[renx]

The thing is in a couple of years we'll see some things on PS5 that will be far more impressive than anything seen in a 2080, even 3070.

 

[Agnostic2020]

Ps5 outperforming RTX2080s and close to 2080 ti which is a 14 tf nvidia card

Pretty fucking awesome.

 

[gojira96]

If there is a PS5 Pro down the line, what could it even add?
A larger SSD? That rumored "Remastering Engine" (or whatever it was called)? Full BC?

 

[AnotherOne]

Can't deny that for 399 -499 consoles are a bargain for what you're getting.

 

[killatopak]

3060ti is like $400 on it own dude, so total cost is nearly a grand in pc terms, so yeh we can say its high end. especially the ps5 with the pc beating ssd.

Back in the day a 7950 costs $350 and it was the equivalent of a RX6800 which is $600.

High end sounds about right.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

beast, rtx2080 performance without rt is great result but waitng now for ps5pro with proper rt performance ;d

 

[CobraXT]

This is Assassin's Creed btw. And as you can see you need a 2080 Super to match or exceed the PS5.

No idea why you dragged that in here.

My point is the game is not optimised on PC , 2080 is demolishing the PS5 on
other games let alone the super

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

My point is the game is not optimised on PC , 2080 is demolishing the PS5 on
other games let alone the super

Where's your source

 

[RedVIper]

3060ti is like $400 on it own dude, so total cost is nearly a grand in pc terms, so yeh we can say its high end. especially the ps5 with the pc beating ssd.

So the least expensive card you can buy is "high end". Gotcha.

And unless you're building a pc from scratch you don't need to spend a grand, even if you are you can build one for less.

 

[Agnostic2020]

5700XT card is outperforming the PS5 on Godfall btw

This is the worst time line for you . Xsx performs below 2080 in gears 5 as per DF and ps5 performs around 2080ti. Its rough to have everything turned upside down .I get it

 

[cebri.one]

STOP THE COUNT

 

[LostDonkey]

Now if only I could buy one.

 

[wachie]

For what it's worth when PS4 launched, it was about a midrange GPU (7870/660Ti) which were already a gen behind. The PS5 is on par with a 3060Ti/6700XT which is gen-aligned, looks more forward-looking.

I know about RT and other features, I'm only comparing pure raster performance.

 

[MasterCornholio]

My point is the game is not optimised on PC , 2080 is demolishing the PS5 on
other games let alone the super

The XSX GPU is supposed to be equivalent to a 2080S and I don't see it demolishing the PS5 in comparisons. Maybe the PS5 is closer to a 2080 than you think?

 

[Tickle My Tendies]

PS5 is pretty much exceeding most of my expectations in terms of performance. The value, especially with the 399 dollar digital edition (but even the disc edition too) is pretty phenomenal. Lot of power packed into the price tag. 2080 Super-ish performance right out the gates is awesome.

Always a beast

Who is Joe Miller? Is this someone I am supposed to know?

If there is a PS5 Pro down the line, what could it even add?
A larger SSD? That rumored "Remastering Engine" (or whatever it was called)? Full BC?

Always room for improvement. Faster CPU, maybe even more CPU cores, more RAM, larger SSD, better GPU, etc. The wheel keeps rolling.

 

[zcaa0g]

A lot of folks don’t take into account the customization that goes into the SoC’s that power the PS5 and Series X. People want to cling on to their PC Master Race mentality and not realize they can buy an Xbox or a PlayStation for less than a GPU and enjoy performance that is at the same level or better.

So how does those Virpil and VKB bases and grips and throttles and rudder pedals fare on a console? How do RTSs fare a console with a gamepad? Yeah, that.

There are more genres than just 3rd person action games and racing games and there are many more factors than just the CPU and GPU capabilities.

PCs are superior in every way but cost but cost isn't a factor for everyone.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Only one ultra setting!!! Time for PS6 already.

 

[rodrigolfp]

AMD did an amazing job with ps5. Great results

Ftfy

 

[geordiemp]

Ps5




I would of liked to have seen XSX vs 5700XT, RDNA2 vs RDNA1 all using DX12 tools just for the meltdowns.

 

[Agnostic2020]

Ftfy

Not really. This is a customised apu. Cerny and his team did what needed to be done in conjuction with amd . Its not off the shelf full pc rdna2

 

[Dr.brain64]

People doubt sony??

 

[TGO]

The Master Race isn't gonna like this

 

[Hezekiah]

Buy a Samsung SSD and you get this for free. But if you're getting it on console get it on PS5 and know you're getting great performance.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Not really. This is a customised apu. Cerny and his team did what needed to be done in conjuction with amd . Its not off the shelf full pc rdna2

Customized apu done by AMD using pc tech.

 

[Tripolygon]

My point is the game is not optimised on PC , 2080 is demolishing the PS5 on
other games let alone the super

PS5 out performs 2080 in Dirt 5. Also PS5 out performs 5700XT in Godfall.

 

[Entroyp]

Always a beast

Surely this can’t be true!? A $399 box can match a 2080 Super?

 

[Agnostic2020]

Customized apu done by AMD using pc tech.

No customisation is done by sony. Amd just takes input from their clients. They have made that very clear.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Damn I thought the PS5 would be closer to a 2070 than a 2080 Super.

Impressive.

It should be said his testing methodology is very favourable to PC as he's taking PS5 performance at 1440p, the lowest res of its dynamic range. It doesnt take a genius to work out that benching PC version at higher than that would require an even faster GPU. But of course that's not possible so he's used the lowest res for his comparison.

So in this game I would say a 3070 would be a good match.

 

[onnextflix5]

So the least expensive card you can buy is "high end". Gotcha.

And unless you're building a pc from scratch you don't need to spend a grand, even if you are you can build one for less.

First it was xbox fans that were losing it, now its pc fanboys are also getting a bit defensive lol

We get it, ur very upset that a console is getting close to ur crown or even beating it some regards lol

 

[Entroyp]

It is starting to make sense why some of the insiders thought that PS5 had a 13TF GPU.

Hey, you’re right. I thought all the insiders were full of shit but it turns they were right all along, but only on performance not TF numbers.

 

[LostDonkey]

PS5 out performs 2080 in Dirt 5.

Another AMD game though tbf. logos all over it. There's even a page on AMDs website dedicated to just pushing the game.

 

[Allnamestakenlol]

I'm sorry to break the bubble but on a distant mountain in a muddy screenshot of a compressed YouTube video the PS5 looks like it is using similar settings to Xbox Series S. /s

Your post made me wonder, is that what the S in Xbox Series S really stands for? Sarcasm? It all makes sense now. Maybe it was initially labeled as Xbox Series /S.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Cheapest PS5 is 399.

You right. Forgot about the disc less version.

 

[carsar]

We can see 25-30% flops difference and 25-30% fps difference between 5700 and ps5.
So, console optimization is just a myth

 

[Epic Sax CEO]

Can't watch it now.
What about the CPU?
What CPU Alex used in his PC? Because I belive this makes a difference allowing the GPU to perform better. If the consoles used Zen 3 I wouldn't ask this question, but they use Zen 2 and this makes a difference.

EDIT: it's my impression or the consoles are under performing on this game? Because RDNA2 cards do VERY well in this game, but comparing the benchmarks the PS5 is performing at the same level as the 5700XT. Or I'm wrong because the consoles are limited to only render 60fps and because of this we can't know how fart hey're going?

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Another AMD game though tbf. logos all over it. There's even a page on AMDs website dedicated to just pushing the game.

Why is this never said for games which favor Nvidia cards? Which is most games?

 

[Entroyp]

Why no XsX vs PC?

 

[Astorian]

Honestly the value of these console is crazy, either the console makers are doing some crazy magic or PC parts are way overpriced.

 

[anothertech]

Not really. This is a customised apu. Cerny and his team did what needed to be done in conjuction with amd . Its not off the shelf full pc rdna2

That dude's just gonna have a really bad year lol.

 

[RaySoft]

Fillrate is king baby!

Edit: Just to reiterate: Both the PS5 and Series will escalate beyond these tradidional renders. Heck, the geometry engine (PS5) and mesh shaders (XS) arent even used yet.
This is like the buttom scarps of what we can expect from next gen. And it doesen't seem that many here are capable to fathom the change.. That RAD dev tweet said it best with his dollar bet.
In my mind, this will be the biggest jump since PS2/3.

 

[retsof624]

I can’t wait to see what devs are gonna do once we get out of the crossgen phase

 

[wachie]

We can see 25-30% flops difference and 25-30% fps difference between 5700 and ps5.
So, console optimization is just a myth

We can see the moon is between 30-50 million miles far from the earth and Mars to be betwen 500-600 million miles.

So, the earth being round is just a myth.

 

[NoMoChokeSJ]

I installed this yesterday and ran the benchmark tool on it on my PC with a Ryzen 3900x and a 2080 rtx. With everything turned all the way up at 1440p the CPU utilization was lower than expected at 25%-30%, VRAM usage was low to mid 6gb, and the frame rate ranged from 141 to 46. The game seems to be a bit all over the place at least while using the using benchmark tool. I think it averaged mid 80ish fps.

 

[8BiTw0LF]

PS5 out performs 2080 in Dirt 5. Also PS5 out performs 5700XT in Godfall.

And Devil May Cry 5 on PS5 is on a par with 2080Ti.