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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Why do games perform better on the PS5? What causes the screen tearing on the XSX? It just doesn't make any sense to me.
The developers have probably had a lot more time to get used to the PS5 development tools (and dev kits?) since they were finished earlier, on top of all the other reasons people have mentioned.

Also, the Sony APIs and dev tools may be better/more efficient?
 
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sircaw

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Hey at least they post on this forum lol

Better than posting some meaningless console warz twitter stuff.

My verdict: fair callout, but keep it to the one post and move on

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you're happy with the fud they spread, the people that got banned?> is this really what your saying.

Good job buddy!


Post edit i missed read what the user said, have offered an apology, stupid fucking fish. "lollipop_disappointed:
 
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IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
you're happy with the fud they spread, the people that got banned?> is this really what your saying.

Good job buddy!
Huh? No.. by "at least they post on this forum" I meant that as a defense of you.. because you are calling out posters on this forum, which I would consider on topic.

I was saying it's far better than all the lame stuff that gets posted from twitter.. which IMO, random fanboy crap from twitter is really what should be "off topic."

Hope that makes sense.

calling out fanboy users on this forum > posting random fanboys from twitter

Basically.
 
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PSX

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Mother sucker

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sircaw

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Fair enough, I just don't wanted to be some righteous idiot, I just feel like this forum should not turn into battle----well this site's political forum to be honest : D And if that's a case, then I have no problem with that. But I feel like it needs to be talked about that. Very well, proceed as intended.

Yer they did this for months, months on end, and now people are acting like don't pick on them, it's only been a few days. They got what they deserved.

I myself am not a complete bastard with out feeling, i will stop picking on them soon, but i got a lot of bullshit from a lot of those people, hounded out of threads, that's why this thread became my main thread.

I am sure there are people out there that are banned and saying the same thing.
 

geordiemp

Member
Yer they did this for months, months on end, and now people are acting like don't pick on them, it's only been a few days. They got what they deserved.

I myself am not a complete bastard with out feeling, i will stop picking on them soon, but i got a lot of bullshit from a lot of those people, hounded out of threads, that's why this thread became my main thread.

I am sure there are people out there that are banned and saying the same thing.


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sircaw

Banned
Huh? No.. by "at least they post on this forum" I meant that as a defense of you.. because you are calling out posters on this forum, which I would consider on topic.

I was saying it's far better than all the lame stuff that gets posted from twitter.. which IMO, random fanboy crap from twitter is really what should be "off topic."

Hope that makes sense.

calling out fanboy users on this forum > posting random fanboys from twitter

Basically.

agh ok, my apologies i thought you were defending what they did for a second,

Sorry i apologise for that,
 

MistBreeze

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Im still sticking to this tweet.

but is not this tweet contradicts with the notion that ps5 is older '' more mature '' and it was supposed to release in 2019 and Sony panicked when they saw what a beast series x is and as a last resort overclocked the hell out of the console to stand a chance??

is not xbox series x the newer console ... the true 2020 console ..... the full RDN2 console as Microsoft said after AMD press release
they say literally '' xbox series x is the only full RDNA2 console '' ??
 
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M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Yer they did this for months, months on end, and now people are acting like don't pick on them, it's only been a few days. They got what they deserved.

I myself am not a complete bastard with out feeling, i will stop picking on them soon, but i got a lot of bullshit from a lot of those people, hounded out of threads, that's why this thread became my main thread.

I am sure there are people out there that are banned and saying the same thing.
Fair enough, honestly I saw only spotted that one bolded and let's just say, I am not particulary fond of that person. And others, I mean I don't know much about them. They really don't even post in XSX OT : D

but is not this tweet contradicts with the notion that ps5 is older '' more mature '' and it was supposed to release in 2019 and Sony panicked when they saw what a beast series x is and as a last resort overclocked the hell out of the console to stand a chance??

is not xbox series x the newer console ... the true 2020 console ..... the full RDN2 console as Microsoft said after AMD press release
they say literally '' xbox series x is the only full RDNA2 console '' ??
Well that does not really have to mean much, if you look at reviews, it's not particulary great look for desktop RDNA 2, specially even more without cache. RT sucks completely and yeah, maybe some tweaking is needed, maybe even on like a BIOS level and that's where simply that "Xbox is late" could stems from. I mean the issues stems from.
 
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sircaw

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Fair enough, honestly I saw only spotted that one bolded and let's just say, I am not particulary fond of that person. And others, I mean I don't know much about them. They really don't even post in XSX OT : D

Some of them are not to bad, like riky, even that little Orko thing that floats about, with them it's more banter, i don't have any malice at all for them, they probably hate me, its ok, i don't mind

but there are a couple of others on that list that do shit in bad faith.

no free pass.

And if they feel bad. tjeu can just report me and let me take a ban, its not a problem.
 

M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Some of them are not to bad, like riky, even that little Orko thing that floats about, with them it's more banter, i don't have any malice at all for them, they probably hate me, its ok, i don't mind

but there are a couple of others on that list that do shit in bad faith.

no free pass.

And if they feel bad. tjeu can just report me and let me take a ban, its not a problem.
Yeah well that's what we don't know, the ban you know. I enjoy your posts and a lot of people are probably same way. That's why I wrote it from certain angle, because ban hammer could strike. I don't think that anyone from the core Xbox camp has anything for people like you or Bo, etc. Xbox camp meaning the people who both the console or having it pre-ordered.

Like me, waiting for december, NOOOOOOOOOO :messenger_loudly_crying:
 
but is not this tweet contradicts with the notion that ps5 is older '' more mature '' and it was supposed to release in 2019 and Sony panicked when they saw what a beast series x is and as a last resort overclocked the hell out of the console to stand a chance??

is not xbox series x the newer console ... the true 2020 console ..... the full RDN2 console as Microsoft said after AMD press release
they say literally '' xbox series x is the only full RDNA2 console '' ??

Yes series x is probably the only full rdna2, but being full doesnt mean it is better than non-full

lets say you have a car model built for weird rock collectors and it includes 500kg of rocks

model A: full version with 500kg of rocks
model B: non-full version without rocks

which is the faster one?

My guess would be that because PS5 isnt "full", it is more custom and have removed parts that are not needed or replaced them by more efficent parts, while xsex must be full model to make it easier to run the game on consoles + pc with directX APIs.

And the "Sony panic overclock" thing is just stupid, it is not overclocked when chip is engineered to run at those clocks
 

Darklor01

Might need to stop sniffing glue
Yer they did this for months, months on end, and now people are acting like don't pick on them, it's only been a few days. They got what they deserved.

I myself am not a complete bastard with out feeling, i will stop picking on them soon, but i got a lot of bullshit from a lot of those people, hounded out of threads, that's why this thread became my main thread.

I am sure there are people out there that are banned and saying the same thing.

I thought this became your (and mine) main thread because we had nowhere else proper to go while we waited. We just sat there speculating. Then joking. Then speculating and laughing at the joking. Then, it was just home. We're still not homeless, and there will always be speculation.

Welcome home Kotter. Welcome home.
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
Fair enough, honestly I saw only spotted that one bolded and let's just say, I am not particulary fond of that person. And others, I mean I don't know much about them. They really don't even post in XSX OT : D
Well that's the problem with some of them, it's not that they like Xbox and want to be heard, bu rather that they hate playstation and wants it to lose, at all costs.
I would've excluded TBiddy TBiddy because yes he is more leaning toward Xbox but every time we talked he wasn't spraying bullshit about playstation like some others were.
I for example am leaning more toward PC and playstation, but I do not want Xbox to fail, I expected them to do a little bit better in multiplats and believed the insiders saying they will have"mic drops after mic drops".
But some of these users are so diehard that they brain twist reality to fit their narratives and it's incredible how delusionnal some of them can be.
 

geordiemp

Member
The developers have probably had a lot more time to get used to the PS5 development tools (and dev kits?) since they were finished earlier, on top of all the other reasons people have mentioned.

Also, the Sony APIs and dev tools may be better/more efficient?

Dev on Era confirms XSX dev tools been out over year and most mature they have ever been

I think we need to listen again

 
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Zheph

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Well that's the problem with some of them, it's not that they like Xbox and want to be heard, bu rather that they hate playstation and wants it to lose, at all costs.
I would've excluded TBiddy TBiddy because yes he is more leaning toward Xbox but every time we talked he wasn't spraying bullshit about playstation like some others were.
I for example am leaning more toward PC and playstation, but I do not want Xbox to fail, I expected them to do a little bit better in multiplats and believed the insiders saying they will have"mic drops after mic drops".
But some of these users are so diehard that they brain twist reality to fit their narratives and it's incredible how delusionnal some of them can be.
it honestly makes me want to stay away from the brand, dude like Astal are so bad for Xbox and there are a fair share of idiots on the blue coasts but to that extent?!
 
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MistBreeze

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Yes series x is probably the only full rdna2, but being full doesnt mean it is better than non-full

lets say you have a car model built for weird rock collectors and it includes 500kg of rocks

model A: full version with 500kg of rocks
model B: non-full version without rocks

which is the faster one?

My guess would be that because PS5 isnt "full", it is more custom and have removed parts that are not needed or replaced them by more efficent parts, while xsex must be full model to make it easier to run the game on consoles + pc with directX APIs.

And the "Sony panic overclock" thing is just stupid, it is not overclocked when chip is engineered to run at those clocks
thank you sir for this thoroughly informative and rational thought
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
You left out @MrFunSocks. Let’s not forget his invite to the party.

Oh, if only X Fighter would come back. Then the team would be complete.....

Edit: All banter aside, The only thing they all did wrong was believing in Microsoft’s bullshit.

Im sure we’ll all get the blame instead of Phil though...
Tbh, I wouldn’t call it bullshit. More tflops have almost always equal better performance. On consoles and especially pc.

Their issue was that they thought the 18% difference in tflops would result in 100% better performance. Which is almost never the case.

They might still get some wins. I suspect things will get better for them as the gen goes on.
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
it honestly makes me want to stay away from the brand, dude like Astal are so bad for Xbox and there are a fair share of idiots on the blue coasts but to that extent?!
I don't think it is the brand the problem, but the compliance by some of their leaders with those types of person.
Which in a way validate their behaviour.But the brand is not responsible for this, Crapgamer and MBG are the same now that they are rooting for playstation.But when you are toxic you want to be heard and when higher ups aknowledge your existence and give you importance then you keep the toxic behaviour to get noticed again, and if it doesn't works then you do it harder.
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
Tbh, I wouldn’t call it bullshit. More tflops have almost always equal better performance. On consoles and especially pc.

Their issue was that they thought the 18% difference in tflops would result in 100% better performance. Which is almost never the case.

They might still get some wins. I suspect things will get better for them as the gen goes on.
That's not true look at the perf between AMD and Nvidia and ratio between TF and in-game performance.
That's been factually wrong.
 

Blue Spring

Read my tears about xbox here --->
Dev on Era confirms XSX dev tools been out over year and most mature they have ever been

I think we need to listen again


Do you have a link? Would like to see how some of them will react to it because they are 100% on board on the tool train.
 

geordiemp

Member
Do you have a link? Would like to see how some of them will react to it because they are 100% on board on the tool train.

Regarding all the talk about Xbox dev tools maturity, Fafalada (game dev and long-time member here and other boards) said on Ree that GDK/gamecore is more mature than all previous Xbox generations SDKs at launch. And also better than what other consoles had at launch in the past. Basically another source corroborating what the Dirt 5 developer has said about Xbox dev tools.

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fafalada-comment1.jpg

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Zheph

Member
I don't think it is the brand the problem, but the compliance by some of their leaders with those types of person.
Which in a way validate their behaviour.But the brand is not responsible for this, Crapgamer and MBG are the same now that they are rooting for playstation.But when you are toxic you want to be heard and when higher ups aknowledge your existence and give you importance then you keep the toxic behaviour to get noticed again, and if it doesn't works then you do it harder.
It’s part of the brand for me, you don’t see Hermen doing this
 
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