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[longdi]

The single core of 5950X is expected to get push really high

But that said, this is my 3950X geekbench 5.2.5 vs 5950X

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 Core Flagship CPU Benchmarked Again, Crushes Intel's Top Core i9-10980XE 18 Core HEDT Chip

New benchmarks of AMD's flagship Ryzen 9 5950X 16 Core Zen 3 CPU have leaked out in Geekbnench 5 where it crushes top HEDT CPUs from Intel.

wccftech.com

Please keep your expectation in check. 4.74Ghz is bullshit for my 3950X, maybe 1 micro-second

 

[SantaC]

The single core of 5950X is expected to get push really high

But that said, this is my 3950X geekbench 5.2.5 vs 5950X

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 Core Flagship CPU Benchmarked Again, Crushes Intel's Top Core i9-10980XE 18 Core HEDT Chip

New benchmarks of AMD's flagship Ryzen 9 5950X 16 Core Zen 3 CPU have leaked out in Geekbnench 5 where it crushes top HEDT CPUs from Intel.

wccftech.com

Please keep your expectation in check. 4.74Ghz is bullshit for my 3950X, maybe 1 micro-second

R20 is more representative of single thread score

 

[Damian black]

And i thought that amd was the cheaper choice...i bought my 8600k at launch for 240 euros

So you are absolutely sure that a 3700x is gonna be enough for a nvidia 3000 or even a 4000 series gpu?!

if you have an 8600k I'd just overclock it to 5ghz or close and wait for the next amd socket.
If you play in 4k you wont need a better cpu for a long time, unless you're planning to buy a 3080 to play in 1080p.

but if you wanna buy now, sure a 3700x is good enough for any gpu at 1440p and more.

 

[longdi]

Just by turning off svm virtualization and still on ryzen balanced mode, lol.

beated 5950x in multicore scores.

 

[PhoenixTank]

Just by turning off svm virtualization and still on ryzen balanced mode, lol.

beated 5950x in multicore scores.

Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. X570 AORUS MASTER - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. X570 AORUS MASTER with an AMD Ryzen 9 3950X processor.

browser.geekbench.com

Sooo we can probably establish that Geekbench is kinda shit and meaningless?

 

[GymWolf]

if you have an 8600k I'd just overclock it to 5ghz or close and wait for the next amd socket.
If you play in 4k you wont need a better cpu for a long time, unless you're planning to buy a 3080 to play in 1080p.

but if you wanna buy now, sure a 3700x is good enough for any gpu at 1440p and more.

I just prefer to have an 8 core like the console.

They are gonna be the baseline for every third party game and we don't know when devs are gonna start to use all the cores, it is a possibility.

Also i usually don't bother with overclocking, i just don't like to stress my hardware for minimal gains.

What do you mean with good enough? i don't want any bottleneck in my next rig not even a small one.

 

[PhoenixTank]

I just prefer to have an 8 core like the console.

They are gonna be the baseline for every third party game and we don't know when devs are gonna start to use all the cores, it is a possibility.

Also i usually don't bother with overclocking, i just don't like to stress my hardware for minimal gains.

What do you mean with good enough? i don't want any bottleneck in my next rig not even a small one.

There will always be some components waiting on others to finish their work... so I assume you mean you want a balanced system? Even then it'll vary by game.
You might post in the PC build thread: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/i-ne...tracing-120hz-360hz-next-gen-already.1520520/
Hard to advise on your restriction above without knowing what resolution & framerate you're targeting..?

 

[GymWolf]

There will always be some components waiting on others to finish their work... so I assume you mean you want a balanced system? Even then it'll vary by game.
You might post in the PC build thread: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/i-ne...tracing-120hz-360hz-next-gen-already.1520520/
Hard to advise on your restriction above without knowing what resolution & framerate you're targeting..?

I'm gonna open a dedicated topic when it's gonna be upgrade time, but just for the record, my target is 4k60 with good details.

For now i'm just collecting info.

 

[LazyParrot]

5600x scores have shown up on PassMark. Highest single thread performance ever recorded and multi-thread performance is on par with the 3700x, despite having two fewer cores.

 

[PhoenixTank]

I'm gonna open a dedicated topic when it's gonna be upgrade time, but just for the record, my target is 4k60 with good details.

For now i'm just collecting info.

Right now, CPUs will almost always be waiting on your GPU at that resolution.
For reference a 3600 keeps pace at 4K with a 3080:

 

[Bboy AJ]

Building a 99% use for gaming rig, any reason to not get the 5800X instead of the 5900X? I’m running a 3080. Money is no issue but I don’t want to buy something I won’t need. I know reviews aren’t yet out. Just looking for some thoughts.

 

[Insane Metal]

5600x scores have shown up on PassMark. Highest single thread performance ever recorded and multi-thread performance is on par with the 3700x, despite having two fewer cores.

Fucking hell what a beast. "bubububut 299" well yeah. You get what you pay for. You could get that or a 9700K. LOL. Good luck.

 

[Bboy AJ]

Whoa



Hope this means available stock is heavy.

 

[PhoenixTank]

Whoa



Hope this means available stock is heavy.

QR code is legit too!

 

[Jezbollah]

 

[Trogdor1123]

Could those APUs might finally reach the 1080p/60 specs for fallout 4 and Skyrim I want?

 

[Eliciel]

Right now, CPUs will almost always be waiting on your GPU at that resolution.
For reference a 3600 keeps pace at 4K with a 3080:

Shouldn't the very reason for a 3080 be 4k Gaming and, if so, doesn't this make the 3600 a steal of a CPU to have for 4K Gaming?

 

[Alexios]

Ok so some more clarification for what I asked before. Is it viable to say, get a 3800X now, or even a cheaper 3700X, anything 8-core to keep up with current gen stuff decently for the first years. And upgrade on the same mobo/ram/whatever years later to something like a 5950X or whatever the last/most powerful compatible with X570 (or whatever I end up with for the 3XXX) CPU will be when that has not only launched but also dropped in price? Or will those probably not offer a meaningful upgrade and so you're better off starting to build a whole new system by then?

I'm just spoiled by my 3770K lasting me so many years, I'm eager for a belated upgrade but want it to last so maybe the next best option is to make 2 CPUs last that much if they can be bought for great prices with little hassle...

 

[proandrad]

Too bad these chips will be nearly impossible to get this year. Fuck 2020

 

[Damian black]

I just prefer to have an 8 core like the console.

They are gonna be the baseline for every third party game and we don't know when devs are gonna start to use all the cores, it is a possibility.

Also i usually don't bother with overclocking, i just don't like to stress my hardware for minimal gains.

What do you mean with good enough? i don't want any bottleneck in my next rig not even a small one.

I mean, overclocking your current cpu would make it also future proof. The main reasons cpu like the 2600k remained valid for a long time, was also overclock.
Good enough because it's slightly slower than a 9/10k series 8 core at 1080p, but Still better than anything you can buy at that price.

 

[Senua]

Too bad these chips will be nearly impossible to get this year. Fuck 2020

How come?

 

[proandrad]

How come?

Just going by every other high profile tech release recently. I’ll be so happy being wrong my 4 core 7700k is looking ancient right now.

 

[Jezbollah]

Just going by every other high profile tech release recently. I’ll be so happy being wrong my 4 core 7700k is looking ancient right now.

Im pretty positive that AMD wont have the supply issues that we've seen with the 30 series GPUs.

(and yes Im wishing this bad as I want to go from a 7700k to a 5900X too )

 

[Rentahamster]

Ok so some more clarification for what I asked before. Is it viable to say, get a 3800X now, or even a cheaper 3700X, anything 8-core to keep up with current gen stuff decently for the first years. And upgrade on the same mobo/ram/whatever years later to something like a 5950X or whatever the last/most powerful compatible with X570 (or whatever I end up with for the 3XXX) CPU will be when that has not only launched but also dropped in price? Or will those probably not offer a meaningful upgrade and so you're better off starting to build a whole new system by then?

I'm just spoiled by my 3770K lasting me so many years, I'm eager for a belated upgrade but want it to last so maybe the next best option is to make 2 CPUs last that much if they can be bought for great prices with little hassle...

If your stuff still functions for the tasks you need it to function for, then keep it. Don't go shopping for the sake of going shopping for stuff you don't need.

 

[PhoenixTank]

Building a 99% use for gaming rig, any reason to not get the 5800X instead of the 5900X? I’m running a 3080. Money is no issue but I don’t want to buy something I won’t need. I know reviews aren’t yet out. Just looking for some thoughts.

If streaming is not under your gaming uses... then the theory goes that 8 Zen3 cores should do pretty well throughout this generation because of the consoles. If you really don't think you'll branch out at all for other PC usage, then I don't see a big flaw there, just that it is likely that a 5700X will end up being a better value option.

Shouldn't the very reason for a 3080 be 4k Gaming and, if so, doesn't this make the 3600 a steal of a CPU to have for 4K Gaming?

There will be plenty of people at 1440p upgrading to a 3080 or similar, but yes the 3080 is at its best at 4K. The 3600 is very popular in DIY builds for good reason, but we can't exactly predict when 6C/12T will be insufficient. There is also DLSS which throws a bit of a wrench in the works. You're rendering at a lower resolution which allows for CPU speed to be more important and thus higher framerates... but also occupy (I think?) a relatively fixed portion of GPU time in order to upscale it.
How that plays out, alongside the extra weight of RT and CPU demands in the future is all very crystal ball stuff.

 

[Eliciel]

If streaming is not under your gaming uses... then the theory goes that 8 Zen3 cores should do pretty well throughout this generation because of the consoles. If you really don't think you'll branch out at all for other PC usage, then I don't see a big flaw there, just that it is likely that a 5700X will end up being a better value option.

There will be plenty of people at 1440p upgrading to a 3080 or similar, but yes the 3080 is at its best at 4K. The 3600 is very popular in DIY builds for good reason, but we can't exactly predict when 6C/12T will be insufficient. There is also DLSS which throws a bit of a wrench in the works. You're rendering at a lower resolution which allows for CPU speed to be more important and thus higher framerates... but also occupy (I think?) a relatively fixed portion of GPU time in order to upscale it.
How that plays out, alongside the extra weight of RT and CPU demands in the future is all very crystal ball stuff.

Thank god X470 will be capable of 5000 Series then..provided people purchased X470 or Higher MBs

 

[dave_d]

Fucking hell what a beast. "bubububut 299" well yeah. You get what you pay for. You could get that or a 9700K. LOL. Good luck.

Very interesting. I'm still waiting to see once everybody benchmarks it how it compares to a 3700x(which regularly sells for $300) and a 3800xt. (Which I picked up recently for about $300 depending on how you calculate it. Yes, I can still return it if the 5600x is available and is overall a better chip.)

 

[Needlecrash]

So....when are the new Ryzen CPU's available? I'm trying to cop one and ditch my fucking i7-7740x.

 

[PhoenixTank]

So....when are the new Ryzen CPU's available? I'm trying to cop one and ditch my fucking i7-7740x.

 

[Needlecrash]

5600x scores have shown up on PassMark. Highest single thread performance ever recorded and multi-thread performance is on par with the 3700x, despite having two fewer cores.

5600x has 10% better performance than the highest Intel CPU? AND $250 CHEAPER????

TAKE MY FUCKING MONEY NOW!!!

 

[Needlecrash]

Thank you!! I was gonna wait to get a new 3080. Since getting one is a pipe dream at the moment, I'll get a new motherboard and a 5800x.

 

[McHuj]

Too bad these chips will be nearly impossible to get this year. Fuck 2020

Maybe. The good thing with Ryzen is that the chips are relatively small (<100mm) vs what NVIDIA is shipping on the 3080 (628 mm) so AMD can get many more chips per wafer and will likely have much better yields as well especially since Zen 3 is going to be on a very mature process now.

I think the 5800x and 5950x maybe the hardest to find since they require all 8 cores to be fully functional on the CPU dies.

I'm gonna shoot for the 5950x as this will be my CPU for the next 4-5 years. I think it will be necessary as well if you want to push framerates past 60 fps as I expect developers to push next-gen games to the point were the current console Zen2 CPU's will struggle at 30fps.

 

[Kanton]

so for pure gaming is there any reason to choose the 5900 over 5800?

 

[notseqi]

so for pure gaming is there any reason to choose the 5900 over 5800?

No. 8core will be fine for a very long time.

 

[duhmetree]

so for pure gaming is there any reason to choose the 5900 over 5800?

yeah 8 cores should be more than enough. I have an 8700k and actually disable HT.

I'm leaning towards the 5900x, just so I wont have to worry about a CPU for 4-5 years. I was thinking about waiting for DDR5 but who knows. I can stretch out my 8700k and 1080ti for a couple of more years. It's perfectly fine at 1440p.

 

[Needlecrash]

yeah 8 cores should be more than enough. I have an 8700k and actually disable HT.

I'm leaning towards the 5900x, just so I wont have to worry about a CPU for 4-5 years. I was thinking about waiting for DDR5 but who knows. I can stretch out my 8700k and 1080ti for a couple of more years. It's perfectly fine at 1440p.

Given my gsync monitors, I'm happy with 1440p and 144hz. I also have a 1080ti and it's still doing pretty well. I need to get rid of my 7740x CPU though. The 5800x will be perfect for me.

 

[notseqi]

We are relying on console ports mostly and CPU has been almost negligible for the past 10 years, GPU will be the deciding factor.

 

[Allnamestakenlol]

Any word on whether new mobos are in the works to take advantage of these new cpus in some way? I'm not super up to speed on what all they bring to the table compared to current gen, and wondering if I can start buying parts for my new build in advance or if I should continue waiting.

 

[notseqi]

Any word on whether new mobos are in the works to take advantage of these new cpus in some way? I'm not super up to speed on what all they bring to the table compared to current gen, and wondering if I can start buying parts for my new build in advance or if I should continue waiting.

AMD is highly compatible to older motherboards, I can fix the 3k series to my 2k motherboard. Get a recent one, maybe of the premium range, currently X570 afaik. I am pretty sure my B450 will take a 5000-series aswell.

 

[Ascend]

yeah 8 cores should be more than enough. I have an 8700k and actually disable HT.

I'm leaning towards the 5900x, just so I wont have to worry about a CPU for 4-5 years. I was thinking about waiting for DDR5 but who knows. I can stretch out my 8700k and 1080ti for a couple of more years. It's perfectly fine at 1440p.

Seeing the performance of these CPUs, I'm thinking even the 5600X is more than enough. Getting an 8 core is more to be on the safe side. After all, the 5600X has 12 threads... I don't see that becoming an issue any time soon.

 

[Pagusas]

Still trying to decided between an x5900 and a 5950. I do a lot of 4k video editing in premier so i can justify the cost.

 

[notseqi]

Still trying to decided between an x5900 and a 5950. I do a lot of 4k video editing in premier so i can justify the cost.

The LinusTechTips cinebench(20?) benchmarks look great, even on air.

 

[LazyParrot]

5600x has 10% better performance than the highest Intel CPU? AND $250 CHEAPER????

TAKE MY FUCKING MONEY NOW!!!

Not quite. This is a synthetic benchmark, and nobody is running their 10900K at only 3.7Ghz. The difference will almost certainly be smaller in games. I'm expecting equal performance at best. Still a great deal for the money, of course.

 

[notseqi]

Not quite. This is a synthetic benchmark, and nobody is running their 10900K at only 3.7Ghz. The difference will almost certainly be smaller in games. I'm expecting equal performance at best. Still a great deal for the money, of course.

I'm of the 'dont-a you touch-a' persuasion, I wouldn't be sure if that many people overclock.

 

[BluRayHiDef]

Might upgrade from my 3900x to a 5950x.

The performance looks bonkers.

How much better do you think the 5950X will be relative to the 3950X in gaming and video editing?

 

[Iorv3th]

So whats the difference between a X570 and B550?

From what I saw it seemed that basically X570 supported PCIE4.0 But I have seen some B550's that support it as well.

 

[Ascend]

How much better do you think the 5950X will be relative to the 3950X in gaming and video editing?

Expect at least 20% better performance.

So whats the difference between a X570 and B550?

From what I saw it seemed that basically X570 supported PCIE4.0 But I have seen some B550's that support it as well.

B550 has PCIe 3.0 lanes to the chipset, while X570 has PCIe 4.0 lanes to the chipset.
Both support PCIe 4.0 to the CPU.
X570 has more connections for 10Gbps USB

 

[BluRayHiDef]

Expect at least 20% better performance.

At 4K with an RTX 3090?

 

[Ascend]

At 4K with an RTX 3090?

Nah... At 4K the advantage will be diminished, and likely the difference will be negligible. But it will apply for video editing.

 

[BluRayHiDef]

Nah... At 4K the advantage will be diminished, and likely the difference will be negligible. But it will apply for video editing.

Good to know, because if I can't manage to get a 5950X on its release day or the day after, which are the last two days on which I can return my 3950X, I won't feel bad.

Oh, by the way, doesn't the 5950X have significantly less latency due to being comprised of less CCXs (2 vs 4)? That won't affect gaming at 4K significantly?