Bernd Lauert
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The 1 TB PS4 had 862 GB of usable storage. That's 138 GB less than advertised. The PS5 has and advertised SSD size of 825 GB. It's plausible that the usable amount will be below 700 GB.
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Rumor - PS5 to have 650GB of usable storage
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The 1 TB PS4 had 862 GB of usable storage. That's 138 GB less than advertised. The PS5 has and advertised SSD size of 825 GB. It's plausible that the usable amount will be below 700 GB.
kraspkibble
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I wasn't expecting that low. I was thinking ~730GB.
nemiroff
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What a perfect timing. Again. After bad ms rumor (halo delayed to 2022) somehow a bad sony rumor appears. Hm really makes you think
Disregard the juvenile system wars. The only thing we need to focus on is whether the rumours are true or false, and then consider our options. Either way it's a valid and interesting topic, because I think it's safe to say that on both the XSX and the PS5 drive expansion seems like more or less a "mandatory" thing (for those who like to play more than a couple of big games anyway) - Unless you have super-duper faster than light internet tubes..
Oh shit, I forgot about that.
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FunkMiller
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So... no evidence then?
YeulEmeralda
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A 2 terabyte SSD? Aren't those fucking expensive?
Anyway I only play one game at a time so whatever.
Slings and Arrows
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I believe it.
Sony said the OS and navigation on PS5 would be something we have never seen before. Combine this with VR and a Steam-like VR 'home screen' and these numbers make more sense.
Think about traditional navigation on the home screens now; we can go left/right and up/down, we can't go in/out, which would make the home screens a lot more user friendly and less cluttered.
Sony said the OS and navigation on PS5 would be something we have never seen before. Combine this with VR and a Steam-like VR 'home screen' and these numbers make more sense.
Think about traditional navigation on the home screens now; we can go left/right and up/down, we can't go in/out, which would make the home screens a lot more user friendly and less cluttered.
INC
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Tbh I'm with you too, my sarcastic bone has been way off lately, even chandler wouldn't have a clue if I'm serious anymore
Let's chalk this up to me just being a dick, and see where the next sarcastic post takes me
ZywyPL
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Like 250-350$ (or more of course), so half of the cost of the console itself... Which if you think about it isn't as bad as putting Samsung 860 Pro into the PS4 back in the day when it cost almost twice as the console itself, so the SSD prices have dropped down quite a bit since then. But I think adding at least an extra half a gig to those 825GB will be a must, and those are relatively cheap.
YeulEmeralda
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Attach ment rates for consoles are less than 20 games. The hardcore g
Look at attachment rates for consoles. The vast majority of PS5 owners won't have hundreds of games- they will have less than 20 over the PS5 life cycle.
Sony is building a system for mainstream not hardcore.
Moving games back and forth is going to be a bore this gen. I'll definitely get one of those expansion cards for xbox, but I fear any external SSD from Sony will be crazy expensive. Games need SSDs to evolve, but when it comes to prize, we're not ready for it.
Consoles should have 2 tb minium.
Consoles should have 2 tb minium.
Expansion SSD's will be expensive and, hopefully, not necessary. The only thing that really matters is how easy the system makes it to move games between the SSD and any external HDD attached. If they have a simple method of moving games onto and off the SSD I don't think it'll be much of a problem
sojuwarrior
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lol and i am sitting here with all these space left on my 500gb launch PS4...will this only be an issue for digital version?
I don't think it will have 650GB. I would be surprised (negatively) if that was the case.
But I also don't think Sony will give players all 825GB of storage. About 700-750GB sounds "right"
Same for Xbox Series X. There is no way, players will have 1TB available. More like 890-870GB
But I also don't think Sony will give players all 825GB of storage. About 700-750GB sounds "right"
Same for Xbox Series X. There is no way, players will have 1TB available. More like 890-870GB
And what's the point in that, when you need to install it form disc anyway?
I tried to install Infinite Warfare few days ago and it the system installed....380MB from disc. Rest of game was downloaded because of patches. And I'm sure this game is not alone.
hemo memo
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Install the game not waiting for it to download. Cod is a special shitty case. Most games patches aren’t as big as the game.
JLB
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What a perfect timing. Again. After bad ms rumor (halo delayed to 2022) somehow a bad sony rumor appears. Hm really makes you think
The 825gb ps5 hd is known since the reveal.
captainraincoat
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Try to install Days Gone from a disc
Night.Ninja
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How much space do you think they reserve for suspend and resume
TBiddy
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1 TB = 931 GiB, leaving about 70 GB (931- 862) reserved for OS.. or 7% of the original amount of storage.
If we apply the same logic to the 825 GB we end up at;
825 GB = 768 GiB. Subtracting the same 7%, we end up at 714 GB available space. But of course, this is guesswork.
The worst case would be 16GB minus what's reserved for the OS per suspended title, so the suspended game is just a dump of whatever is in RAM written to storage. On top of this you can probably add some intelligence so it doesn't save some things twice and instead loads assets from the game installation rather than writing them with the suspend.
Night.Ninja
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I assume the PS5 will have at least 2 games suspended minimum plus the game that's running
ReBurn
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That's slow for fiber.
MrFunSocks
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Ok so correcting incorrect information is now wrong if it’s about PlayStation because poor PlayStation fans should be allowed to think incorrect information is true?
I fail to see how pointing out that Sony said it’s 825gb is fanboy warring for Microsoft but you do you.
They have.
Not 5.5gb though. They recommend 7gb to overcome the overhead from whatever controller is in the drive.
They state they need to be a certain size (to fit in the bay much like PS3/PS4) and need a minimum read speed to be compatible.
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Arun1910
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Probably, wasn't looking at it from a price point of view but a practicality one
Hezekiah
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"Team Blue" - try to not be a dickhead, I know difficult for you isn't it. Not to mention all the other rubbish you spout on a regular basis.
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martino
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you're onto something here.
ps4 reserved space was ~90gb if i remember well.
if you add up to 5 14gb savestate -> 70gb
and suddenly the number don't seem that impossible
YeulEmeralda
Member
Fair enough but for many cost is practicality- Sony knows how much people are willing to pay for the PS5.
VanEs
Member
Exactly! Just checked my windows (10) folder and it's at 21,5 GB. The fuck does a lightweight console OS need all that space for?
Doesn't make any sense at all.
JLB
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I dont find the 125 to 175gb to be a crazy number. It looks reasonable. I dont think Series X will be any different. OSes are not only the files, but a lot of additional space to do operations, backups, factory resets, updates, etc.
IRL, 625, or 700 or 1 full TB is not enough at all. To put an example, I have nearly 500 games on my Xbox One. I have a 1TB console + a 3TB external HD and I'd say im just OK.
On other thoughts, I think theres plenty of room to improve how games are installed. In example, Im playing New Super luckey's Tale, and based on the achievements, nearly 80% of the people who played it dropped the game before world 3 (theres 6). This is a pattern on most of games, based on achievements. Maybe partial installs (like, installing up to the average of completion) is a reasonable strategy.
IRL, 625, or 700 or 1 full TB is not enough at all. To put an example, I have nearly 500 games on my Xbox One. I have a 1TB console + a 3TB external HD and I'd say im just OK.
On other thoughts, I think theres plenty of room to improve how games are installed. In example, Im playing New Super luckey's Tale, and based on the achievements, nearly 80% of the people who played it dropped the game before world 3 (theres 6). This is a pattern on most of games, based on achievements. Maybe partial installs (like, installing up to the average of completion) is a reasonable strategy.
JLB
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This is not a correct number at all. Theres plenty of other locations where Windows save files, as well as backup folders (windows.old stuff) plus the recommended free space to operate and or install updates. Also, you would include drivers and all the rest of the stuff that everyone install on top of a clean Windows 10 installation. Also, Linux OSes typically operate using multiple partitions, which also takes additional space.
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nemiroff
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Adding to the post above me; Hidden drive partitions for recovery use, user/hidden app folders, resume state and caches etc can easily reserve/use a lot more than the Windows folder itself.
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420bits
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My win10-drive is roughly 156gb. No games installed on the drive but i do have Photoshop and some other applications, ~4gb in downloadfolder, rest is just windows and whatever it does.
Userprofile is another 106gb.
Installdate on windows 2019-08
Edit: My c:\windows\ folder is 25gb
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Kazekage1981
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if i am to get the ps5, i know i will want to purchase EXTRA storage for downloading games, and storage in general.
sony says they are evaluating SSDs from 3rd party manufacturers to see if it meets the consoles standards and criterias. My question is, will 3rd party manufacturers have the same benefits as the main SSD:
5gb per sec raw/10 gb per sec compressed bandwidth
co-processors such as cache scrubbers
I/O bottleneck removal.
Please clarify thank you.
sony says they are evaluating SSDs from 3rd party manufacturers to see if it meets the consoles standards and criterias. My question is, will 3rd party manufacturers have the same benefits as the main SSD:
5gb per sec raw/10 gb per sec compressed bandwidth
co-processors such as cache scrubbers
I/O bottleneck removal.
Please clarify thank you.
Arun1910
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For sure. Was just thinking how big games are nowadays. MW is nearly 200GB on its own. If more games follow suit with big install files in the future due to texture size increases (and whatever else) we could only get 3 or 4 installed games to a PS5 which is a bit shitty numbers wise.
Dr.Morris79
Member
I love my 12 terabyte Xbox one X. I love knowing all my guff is installed, ready to go
Wouldnt have it any other way.
GreatnessRD
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175GB? PS5 must be dual booting Linux and Windows with 10 million Chrome tabs open in the background for that much reserve, lmao.
Mr. PlayStation
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650GB that's definitely an upgrade over the launch model PS4 in 2013 which had less than 420gb of usable space in the HDD
