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Insider Matt from Reeee on Sony Bought Exclusivity Deals

Gamernyc78

Banned
The double standard here is hilarious. If it was the other way around all you fuckers would be crying into your chocolate milk 😂

You mean the way ppl have been crying about Spiderman exclusivity, Street Fighter in the past, etc 🤔 I don't get your point lol ppl here cry about any and everything all the time 😂😂😂😂 there is no "double standard" just saktyness all over from all sides dependant on the subject at hand.
 

nush

Gold Member
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Who is Matt and why should we care about his vagueposts?
 
The problem is it works. You will 💯 have people who see exclusivity and go to that platform. Imagine if GTA 6 was locked to a platform for 3 months. That would be massive. Now it's definitely not going to be a game like GTA, COD, but imagine the people who would buy the system just for them games.

Sure it seemingly grows the eco-system in the short term, but the money could be spent improving it in other ways rather than make the other side worse for a short while
 

Unknown?

Member
If this is true I will never buy a PS5. Can't support this type of behavior but congrats Sony fans.

Microsoft will need to be willing to spend billions to buy exclusive games and entire studios to shut this behavior down. If not, they should just get out of gaming because Sony would have changed the landscape with exclusive deals like what is mentioned.

Nothing good will come from this as a gamer.
Guess you won't be getting a Series X or Switch either then?
 
<<insider>> matt said:
Yeah, there is a lot of it coming and the scale will be shocking.

the only shocking thing in scale in this , is the advertising for sony going on

unless its a gta or a cod or a fifa, it won't be "shocking in scale"
it sure serves its purpose though
 
If they are making them then why do they need to waste money on these deals? As a Playstation player, I get no bonuses to FF7 being a PS4 timed exclusive over it launching on everything day one. They could spend the money actually improving their eco-system and services as well as make more games and everyone would be happy
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I think the strategy is to make the adoption of the PS5 as fast as possible. Combining exclusive software with these deals will only speed up adoption and lock people into their ecosystem.

Sony doesn't care about these deals catering to you. In reality they probably don't care about you as an individual. They care about people buying PS5s which is what these deals are supposed to do. It's been proven to increase adoption of consoles in the past so I don't see why the same can't be applied now.

It's the harsh reality of business.
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
They all treat Matt as if he’s super entrenched in every company, but he is a goddamn community manager for some third party company iirc. He isn’t a dev, he isn’t high up, and he has as much actual insider knowledge as you and me. All he ever does is piggy back on the back of other “insiders” to say “yeah I’ve heard this as well” and things like that.

He’s pro Sony though, so he’s a god to them (and many on here as well).
 
I think the strategy is to make the adoption of the PS5 as fast as possible. Combining exclusive software with these deals will only speed up adoption and lock people into their ecosystem.

Sony doesn't care about these deals catering to you. In reality they probably don't care about you as an individual. They care about people buying PS5s which is what these deals are supposed to do. It's been proven to increase adoption of consoles in the past so I don't see why the same can't be applied now.

It's the harsh reality of business.
I on the other hand think that ps5 will be sold out anyway for the first year or two. with the numbers that we've heard they are producing, I'm willing to bet on that.
so that leaves the possibility that such rumors serve mainly in order to keep the fanbase pumped up and "focused on the narrative" and not pay attention to anything else
 

The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
You are wrong, it is pro Sony-consumer.

Is first party exclusives anti consumer as well?

I am wrong? What makes a third party game better because it is exclusived or timed for Sony?

You are comparing first party games, which is paid and developed by Sonys devs, to third party games, made by third party devs, which gets a truckload of money of cutting other platforms out. You really don't see the difference?

Didn't know there were people here on Gaf that loved the timed tomb raider exclusive on Xbox One. Or is it only anti consumer when it's not about Sony?

The problem is you have the same mind set as Sony - not to enhance gaming and first party exclusives, but to destroy gaming for anyone else. You are legit supporting Sony to destroy gaming on non Sony platforms.

Have fun when Sony kills Microsoft, and they can charge whatever they want on hardware and 100 euro on games. I assure you, if Sony had monopoly, they wouldn't think twice about fucking you over, just like any other company.

Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo are not your friend. Your favorite piece of plastic is not God. They are companies that want your money, and they don't give a fuck about the rest.
 

DeaDPo0L84

Member
they are already doing that, they just released Ghost of Tsushima and Last of Us 2 when they could've easily made them a PS5 games when MS has abandonded Xbox1 years ago, they are doubling down on 1st party and 3rd party

admit it, this is how xbox fans look at PS exclusives otherwise there won't be all this freakout and meltdowns

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Why would I wanna play those two games when I can play hundreds of mediocre games on gamepass? /s
 

waylo

Banned
I'm a PC gamer. I have expendable income. I'm not buying a console for some timed exclusive shit. This shit does nothing but just ensure that I wind up not giving a single fuck about whatever game is going exclusive for however long. Say something like COD goes PS5 exclusive for six months. Okay? All they've done is guarantee I won't purchase their game. I'll happily play something else for the time-being, then when it does release elsewhere, I'll just continue not caring because by that point the hype is gone.

Meh.
 
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A "insider" or "dev" who is worshipped over there , protected by mods from criticism, yet has never said anything interesting to deserve the pedestal.
He was a user here before and was spot on on PS3 x 360 back then.

Edit: he has never come and teased stuff, he always came in to post stuff he actually knew.
 
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Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
This is totally fair. It’s an avenue to compete. Both companies do it. This is how a competitive market works.

It’s also hilarious to me that the practice is only “bad“ when the competition does it-see Tomb Raider or Spider-Man reactions. Easy to see how people are biased towards one console or the other.

I made a thread asking for people’s opinions on the ethics of It and their assessment of strategies earlier-MSFT focusing on Game Pass day 1 launch and smaller titles vs SNE going after bigger third party timed deals. I saw some healthy discussion w/ very little console warring.

For MSFT the focus on game pass is excellent and 100% their path forward to grow revenue but they need to think about these larger games that will exist outside of that service. People buy consoles for games like Final Fantasy. They won’t be subbing to game pass if they own a PlayStation. When it comes to timed/full exclusives MSFT is fishing for shrimp while Sony is fishing for whales. Game Pass is my favorite monthly sub I belong to right now but MSFT needs to expand their scope to look beyond the service.
 
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Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
As long as its console exclusives im fine.
If PC is also getting shafted.......what the fuck am I supposed to stress test my 2021 PC with?

Console vs Console vs Console?
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I on the other hand think that ps5 will be sold out anyway for the first year or two. with the numbers that we've heard they are producing, I'm willing to bet on that.
so that leaves the possibility that such rumors serve mainly in order to keep the fanbase pumped up and "focused on the narrative" and not pay attention to anything else

Well these deals and constant support of the system with exclusives will cause that to happen.


Sony wants to start next gen fast and this is how they are going to do it. Remember Sony really needs to sell consoles in order to be successful.
 
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ZehDon

Member
"Man says vague things about more exclusive games and content coming to platform after platform reveals some exclusive games and content."

Ok then. Clearly, he's got the inside track :messenger_mr_smith_who_are_you_going_to_call:

Let me try my hand at being a ResetEra Insider:
"Ok, I don't normally post this stuff, but Sony and Microsoft are both being coy. There's reasons for that, but that's not something I'm ready to get into yet. Stay tuned. Anyway, Sony is lining up some exclusives - some of this stuff is going to make headlines. Some people will be pissed, and others are going to be very, very excited. Some potentially big stuff about to drop. I can't give specifics, but I will say: some of this is related to older IP. Sony's brought out their honey hats here. Will put a big smile on your face. Some of this related to current IP, will be very surprising - you won't see it coming. Potentially big stuff, more money hats. Sony aren't messing around this time - some people are going to very pissed."

Ok cool. So, that's vague enough to sound prophetic, yet also fits the pattern of video games over the last thirty years, so that in about eight months, every vague sentence will have come true in one fashion or another. Boom. Verified ResetEra insider. This is fun!
 
This is all such bullshit in my opinion. I don't mind timed exclusivity for smaller games like Kena or The Medium or Fall Guys or Spelunker, but big games like Rise of the Tomb Raider, or the alleged Final Fantasy 16, or FF7 Remake? It's bullshit and it's completely pointless. Gives no real benefit to the side getting the "exclusive" game other than the petty bragging rights in console wars. I would much rather the companies use that money to make their own games rather than money hat big third party games for a short while
They don't do this for bargging my friend. They are doing business.
 
Dont get why people care about timed exclusives...at worst you have to wait a few years, and usually its a complete edition that arrives on the initially excluded console. At best you avoid beta testing a mediocre game
 

j0hnnix

Gold Member
Holy crap.. Bugsnax going to be in GoW. This going to be big!

Boiii... Eat your fruit.
 
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Sony fanboys hoping cod or one of the major sports games become ps exclusive are delusional. If something like that even got brought up in a board meeting Microsoft would be given the chance to exceed the offer.
 

Vol5

Member
May explain that GTA5 advert at the very start of the PS5 reveal, which I thought was odd. Perhaps that's part of the deal.
 

MHubert

Member
I am wrong? What makes a third party game better because it is exclusived or timed for Sony?

You are comparing first party games, which is paid and developed by Sonys devs, to third party games, made by third party devs, which gets a truckload of money of cutting other platforms out. You really don't see the difference?

Didn't know there were people here on Gaf that loved the timed tomb raider exclusive on Xbox One. Or is it only anti consumer when it's not about Sony?

The problem is you have the same mind set as Sony - not to enhance gaming and first party exclusives, but to destroy gaming for anyone else. You are legit supporting Sony to destroy gaming on non Sony platforms.

Have fun when Sony kills Microsoft, and they can charge whatever they want on hardware and 100 euro on games. I assure you, if Sony had monopoly, they wouldn't think twice about fucking you over, just like any other company.

Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo are not your friend. Your favorite piece of plastic is not God. They are companies that want your money, and they don't give a fuck about the rest.
There can be all kinds of reasons why some developers choose timed exclusivity. Any dev can sign whatever contract they want and you liking it or not is irrelevant to it being anti consumer. clearly, some consumers benefit.
 
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Amiga

Member
I am a Playstation gamer, but I don't like the sound of that at all.

HOWEVER when someone else uses their own metric to determine whether the scale is "shocking" is something else entirely.

Still. I think exclusivity should come from initial investments making things possible that otherwise lacked funds and not doing the cheap Microsoft route of buying a timed exclusivity deal for a Tomb Raider game so it is only on Xbox for 1 year.
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I think the strategy is to make the adoption of the PS5 as fast as possible. Combining exclusive software with these deals will only speed up adoption and lock people into their ecosystem.

Sony doesn't care about these deals catering to you. In reality they probably don't care about you as an individual. They care about people buying PS5s which is what these deals are supposed to do. It's been proven to increase adoption of consoles in the past so I don't see why the same can't be applied now.

It's the harsh reality of business.

A thing to consider, this is a result of the PS5 design, it's easier, cheaper and faster to program. games can go gold first on the PS5. 3rd party publishers will find themselves in situations where they are waiting for the Xbox version to get done.

since the cost of development for the console that is expected to be market leader is lower then why not just launch 1st on the PS5 and in exchange get PSN store marketing privileges and front display space. digital sales are now 50% of the market and Sony hold a lot of leverage there.

the PS5 is developer focused, there is a reason Sony went through all that trouble in redesigning complex pipelines that smooth things out for devs.
 
Well these deals and constant support of the system with exclusives will cause that to happen.
Sony wants to start next gen fast and this is how they are going to do it.
Remember Sony really needs to sell consoles in order to be successful.
no objection of course to what you wrote.
its just that the "shocking scale" seems bullshit to me.

about the bolded, I already wrote my prediction that they will be fully sold-out on console production for the first year or two

edit: wow at the video on your link :messenger_beaming:
Jim Ryan: "These are gamers that are sticky and passionate to the playstation" :messenger_beaming::messenger_beaming::messenger_beaming:
btw I think he means about better production of hardware volumes, and I dont understand how for gamespot journos this is a "mystery" :messenger_beaming:
after that, he goes to software too, saying how they will try to globalize launches
 
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Sony fanboys hoping cod or one of the major sports games become ps exclusive are delusional. If something like that even got brought up in a board meeting Microsoft would be given the chance to exceed the offer.

Unless they have faith in something else being alot stronger. Like if they believe that Halo Infinite would make up for not having COD for example.
 
Remember that rumor of GTA 6 being a PS5 timed exclusive? I think it would be too expensive but if Sony pulled it off imagine how many PS5s they would sell 🤑
Microsoft put themselves in a wierd position where they are competing with 3rd party publishers. Game Pass is dengerous for. No one want it. Theu are morevthan wellingbto put thier games exclusively on PS5 to kill GP.
 
no objection of course to what you wrote.
its just that the "shocking scale" seems bullshit to me.

about the bolded, I already wrote my prediction that they will be fully sold-out on console production for the first year or two

Maybe the rumor is a bunch of BS. But if it's true it's certainly part of Sony plan to make people buy PS5s over anything else. I don't believe that Sony wants extreme shortages either because that could end badly for them.
 
Too much smoke, folks. Pretty sure Sony has busted out the checkbook in a big way this time from the sounds of it all.

Question is--is Gamepass really that reviled amongst the publisher/developer circle? Is it really loathed enough that you'd bequeath your biggest AAA titles to one console rather than multiplat it?
 
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