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Assassin’s Creed Valhalla CG trailer - not as long as the reveal

Andodalf

Banned
From one of the articles on their website, regarding the Dark Ages

: It’s a fascinating time. It’s been called the Dark Ages because we don’t have as much information relative to certain time periods like Ancient Egypt or Greece. It may be dark, but it’s also a period of transition and transformation. The Roman world has disappeared, and the medieval era has not yet totally arrived. It’s a really interesting period of rebuilding the western world, rebuilding values, rebuilding states and nations, and mixing cultures that were isolated before. It’s not only a period of conflict; it’s a period of intensive cultural exchange between people, and Vikings played an essential role in that rebuilding of the world through exchanges.

Alright you guys probably don't care about this, but someone who got their degree in history, it feels so good to hear someone from a company that makes any form of media not complete misunderstand what the dark ages were. Sure, this is from their team Historian, but still. I spent a lot of my undergrad studying the late ancient/early medieval period, (aka the dark ages) and they're amazing times with a ton going on, not dull or inactive.
 
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MadYarpen

Member
Bullshots look lovely, but EGS exclusive? Is it timed deal, or actual exclusive?

E: wait, what about Ubisoft store?
 
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nemiroff

Gold Member
I'm a "viking" myself, but I'm not going to freak out if the game isn't going for the simulation genre so-to-speak.. Do fiction and even science-fiction, it's fine as long as its good and interesting. Hope they inject plenty of Norse mythology!

Anyway, from the little I've seen I kinda like the vibes coming out of this.


Edit: Fuck, I just realized this is might be focused on what happened in England.. No majestic fjords..?
 
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We're still doing bullshots in 2020? Coooome on...

Not saying those aren't bullshots.

I honestly can't tell whether they are concept art or not. I'm really curious to check how this looks on next-gen. Could those be next-gen screenies?
I honestly do not know.

But I'm curious!
 

zkorejo

Member
Sounds exciting. I will be cautiously optimistic about this one.


Become Eivor, a Viking raider raised to be a fearless warrior, and lead your clan from icy desolation in Norway to a new home amid the lush farmlands of ninth-century England. Find your settlement and conquer this hostile land by any means to earn a place in Valhalla.

England in the age of the Vikings is a fractured nation of petty lords and warring kingdoms. Beneath the chaos lies a rich and untamed land waiting for a new conqueror. Will it be you?

WRITE YOUR VIKING SAGA
Blaze your own path across England with advanced RPG mechanics. Fight brutal battles, lead fiery raids or use strategy and alliances with other leaders to bring victory. Every choice you make in combat and conversation is another step on the path to greatness.

LEAD EPIC RAIDS
Lead a crew of raiders and launch lightning-fast surprise attacks against Saxon armies and fortresses. Claim the riches of your enemies' lands for your clan and expand your influence far beyond your growing settlement.

ENGAGE IN VISCERAL COMBAT
Unleash the ruthless fighting style of a Viking warrior as you dual-wield axes, swords, or even shields against relentless foes. Decapitate opponents in close-quarters combat, riddle them with arrows, or assassinate them with your Hidden Blade.

GROW YOUR SETTLEMENT
Your clan's new home grows with your legend. Customise your settlement by building upgradable structures. Unlock new features and quests by constructing a barracks, a blacksmith, a tattoo parlour, and much more.

SHARE YOUR CUSTOM RAIDER
Recruit mercenary Vikings designed by other players or create and customise your own to share online. Sit back and reap the rewards when they fight alongside your friends in their game worlds.

A DARK AGE OPEN WORLD
Sail across the icy North Sea to discover and conquer the broken kingdoms of England. Immerse yourself in activities like hunting and drinking games or engage in traditional Norse competitions like flyting – or, as it's better known, verbally devastating rivals through the art of the Viking rap battle.

 

sircaw

Banned
I'm a "viking" myself, but I'm not going to freak out if the game isn't going for the simulation genre so-to-speak.. Do fiction and even science-fiction, it's fine as long as its good and interesting. Hope they inject plenty of Norse mythology!

Anyway, from the little I've seen I kinda like the vibes coming out of this.


Edit: Fuck, I just realized this is might be focused on what happened in England.. No majestic fjords..?

Get back to your settlement you heathen and leave our women and goats alone.
 

Aion002

Member
I hope Ubi will have the guts to make the player an warmonger fiend (that's what most people think when they think about vikings.... I think. :messenger_grinning_sweat: )

Like Kratos in GOW 1 ~ 3. (I know... Spartan)

If they make the main character a bastion of justice or something "good" will be really hard to justify all the pillaging and bloodshed.... After all in AC 1 the player is defending their home, AC 2 is a tale of a justified vengeance, 3 too, 4 you're "free" and so on, in all games you're playing with the good guy (even after killing tons of persons)... I hope this time the MC is more evil than good and the game story tells you that, because in Odyssey and Black Flag you can be a monster, yet the game ignores that.

Anyway... I didn't finished Odyssey yet... but I am interested in how Ubi will make this game interesting.... I hope it's captivating like AC2.
 
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zkorejo

Member
I hope Ubi will have the guts to make the player an warmonger fiend (that's what most people think when they think about vikings.... I think. :messenger_grinning_sweat: )

Like Kratos in GOW 1 ~ 3. (I know... Spartan)

If they make the main character a bastion of justice or something "good" will be really hard to justify all the pillaging and bloodshed.... After all in AC 1 the player is defending their home, AC 2 is a tale of a justified vengeance, 3 too, 4 you're "free" and so on, in all games you're playing with the good guy (even after killing tons of persons)... I hope this time the MC is more evil than good and the game story tells you that, because in Odyssey and Black Flag you can be a monster, yet the game ignores that.

Anyway... I didn't finished Odyssey yet... but I am interested in how Ubi will make this game interesting.... I hope it's captivating like AC2.
I dont think they are going that direction. MC is clearly a good guy. King (whoever writing the letter) was clearly spreading misinformation while the scenes showed the exact opposite of his allegations.

It will probably be more like Vikings. They are there to settle without problems, when not accepted and provoked they will shed blood.

According to the information shared in this thread, seems like they are trying Witcher 3 approach with player decisions effecting the world. Should be interesting to see if Ubi can pull that off.
 
Haha, what a fucking bullshit trailer,
They murder and kill blindly-- show vikings letting a woman and child live.

Who's fucking leg are they pulling here. They came to conquer, enslave rape and sack England.
I surprised they don't have a scene with them group hugging some monks as well.

Vikings were nasty fuckers, nothing more, nothing less.

You missed the point. It was the enemy (the English king) trying to sell to his minions why England should go to war against the Vikings, so he lied about their ways. Go watch The Last Kingdom. "I'm Utrid, son of Utrid."
 

ArcaneNLSC

Member

Heimdall_Xtreme

Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
Not being trash at the game is "limiting or penalizing the actions of the gamer". You can say the mechanic was done poorly, especially from the perspective of the game being a "stealth game", but it made sense in universe. You're playing an assassin.
Thats the point , I am a assassin, and as a assassin I have the right to kill whoever crosses my way
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Zannegan

Member
You missed the point. It was the enemy (the English king) trying to sell to his minions why England should go to war against the Vikings, so he lied about their ways. Go watch The Last Kingdom. "I'm Utrid, son of Utrid."
Which is gross revisionism for the sake of making one side the "good guys," at least in the trailer. Go read The Last Kingdom book series. As little as I like them, at least he doesn't pull any punches in showing both sides as brutal.
 

sublimit

Banned
They really did it, they really tried to turn the Vikings into pure-as-the-driven-snow good guys. What a freaking joke.

You don't have to turn the player into a rapacious ravager of villages, but why bother setting your games in history if you're not going to be even remotely historical? The Vikings were some bad dudes, in many ways. This knight-washing is getting ridiculous.
Not only that but they also looked the part as well. Most of them were tall and strong but not "strong" as in the pretty-boy body builders with flexed muscles and hipster haircuts and beards the tv series made mainstream. Anyway i understand that ubisoft aims at mainstream appeal.I may not like it but most people out there actually believe that vikings looked like the model actors depicted in the tv series so Ubisoft obviously wants to appeal to the expectations of those people.
 
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Aion002

Member
I dont think they are going that direction. MC is clearly a good guy. King (whoever writing the letter) was clearly spreading misinformation while the scenes showed the exact opposite of his allegations.

It will probably be more like Vikings. They are there to settle without problems, when not accepted and provoked they will shed blood.

According to the information shared in this thread, seems like they are trying Witcher 3 approach with player decisions effecting the world. Should be interesting to see if Ubi can pull that off.
I hope there are multiple "rivals" and the "Dude" showed in the trailer is just one of them.

Surely they could put some battles where the MC is righteous, while in others, if the player choose to do so, the MC is clearly in the "evil" side.

And hopefully there are multiple endings...

I really hope that the game story is affected by the player choices.
 

Zannegan

Member
I hope there are multiple "rivals" and the "Dude" showed in the trailer is just one of them.

Surely they could put some battles where the MC is righteous, while in others, if the player choose to do so, the MC is clearly in the "evil" side.

And hopefully there are multiple endings...

I really hope that the game story is affected by the player choices.
Other rivals on par with Alfred the Great? Unlikely.

In that Eurogamer interview they do promise that the vikings won't be the "good guys" and Alfred won't be a "'stache-twirling" villain, but after that trailer (and their writing in all previous titles) I won't hold my breath. I will hold out the tiniest spark of hope though.
 

zkorejo

Member
I hope there are multiple "rivals" and the "Dude" showed in the trailer is just one of them.

Surely they could put some battles where the MC is righteous, while in others, if the player choose to do so, the MC is clearly in the "evil" side.

And hopefully there are multiple endings...

I really hope that the game story is affected by the player choices.
For what its worth, the initial leaks did say there would be multiple regions/kingdoms.

Dont want to kill your excitement but.. this is Ubisoft.. I honestly dont think they can pull off a good story and/or the decision ripple effect.
 

sircaw

Banned
You missed the point. It was the enemy (the English king) trying to sell to his minions why England should go to war against the Vikings, so he lied about their ways. Go watch The Last Kingdom. "I'm Utrid, son of Utrid."

I mean, perhaps the spin Ubisoft wants to spin it so people play the game and don't feel bad about playing as a viking.

The truth is they invaded many different countries, they did brutal, vile stuff. How many monks were killed, how many women were raped, how many children were taken back to be enslaved.

Answer me this, If you were a king and a conquering force arrived on your island, wanted to enslave your populace and rape your woman what would you do.

I am not sure if i would have to lie or justify a reason to be able to move my army in their direction.

What's worse, murdering, raping scumbags or telling a lie so that you can go to war to stop those scum bags.

Remember they invaded first.

Anyway, game looks good and hopefully it will play well, look forward to it.

I also want extra Dlc
Where as an English man, i get to go to Scandinavia and pillage there lands and spread Christianity.

I WANT REVENGE.
 

Aion002

Member
Other rivals on par with Alfred the Great? Unlikely.

In that Eurogamer interview they do promise that the vikings won't be the "good guys" and Alfred won't be a "'stache-twirling" villain, but after that trailer (and their writing in all previous titles) I won't hold my breath. I will hold out the tiniest spark of hope though.

Let's hope so... But I do agree that it will be really hard.


For what its worth, the initial leaks did say there would be multiple regions/kingdoms.

Dont want to kill your excitement but.. this is Ubisoft.. I honestly dont think they can pull off a good story and/or the decision ripple effect.

Oh it's Ubi indeed... They kinda suck these days (in various aspects)... However, maybe... Just maybe, they will be able to surprise us with something remarkable like AC2.
 

Mista

Banned
-Playable male/female protag "Eivor"
-Grow your own Viking village
-Takes place in Norway & mostly Britain
-Fully customizable (beards, tattoos, etc)
-Norse mythology plays a role (ex: Odin)
-Single player only
 
13th Warrior had the weakest ending ever it pissed me off. An unskilled priest kills the leader and all the other warriors run off like pussies. This was Rey before Rey

I'm pretty sure the Beowulf guy kills the Neanderthal warrior, but I can't remember how it went down in the book. Thematically, it shows that the Vikings were strong because they were a collective working together for a common cause who even welcomed strangers as long as they were bros, while also respecting their individuality. The Neanderthals are BTFO because they can't adapt and are only united by fear of their dual tyrants. This is mirrored by the cunt Vikings subplot.

Rey is toxic bullshit. I can't think of a theme illustrated by that character once she leaves that desert planet, it's just empty pandering.
 

mortal

Gold Member
Not saying those aren't bullshots.

I honestly can't tell whether they are concept art or not. I'm really curious to check how this looks on next-gen. Could those be next-gen screenies?
I honestly do not know.

But I'm curious!
I doubt those are next-gen screens, they have that overly polished look. I doubt a cross-gen Ubisoft game would look that good even on a PS5 or Series X.
If it was being developed from the ground up for next-gen consoles I'd be more convinced.
 

Piku_Ringo

Banned
Gotta see some actual gameplay to decided whether is game is for me, a 4 minute cg trailer ain't gonna cut it at this stage in my life.
 

Hendrick's

If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
So why do they need to keep ruining these games with the whole, at this point, meaningless assassin crap? I don't want a dumb sneak blade and a drone bird. I'm a Viking, why am I doing parkour? Why can't Ubi just make fun historical action games and drop the AC crud?
 
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Zannegan

Member
So why do they need to keep ruining these games with the whole, at this point, meaningless assassin crap? I don't want a dumb sneak blade and a drone bird. I'm a Viking, why am I doing parkour? Why can't Ubi just make fun historical action games and drop the AC crud?
It really does seem to be holding them back. Every historical setting has to be turned into a struggle between the Assassins and Templars, who can't just be stand-ins for chaos v order, but have to be boiled down to good v. evil. It's frustrating to see history robbed of all nuance and believable character motivation, for the sake of making the Assassins look good by turning the opposition cartoonishly evil.
 

Kenpachii

Member
It really does seem to be holding them back. Every historical setting has to be turned into a struggle between the Assassins and Templars, who can't just be stand-ins for chaos v order, but have to be boiled down to good v. evil. It's frustrating to see history robbed of all nuance and believable character motivation, for the sake of making the Assassins look good by turning the opposition cartoonishly evil.

Yea they can ditch the templar and assassin crap for all i care.
 
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