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Polygon -Sony’s silence on PS5 has done wonders for the next-gen Xbox
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Gavon West
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Im old enough to afford to buy both consoles --
I'm interested. Very. That's all you need to know, breh...
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Oh ...If so, yes that would be stupid.No, he is talking about this outrage culture garbage.
'Flute Guy' Who Drew Backlash at E3 for Wearing Japanese Clothes Has a Surprising Backstory
Sony’s “Flute guy” played just two minutes at this year’s E3, but he sparked an endless amount of memes and some heated discussion on social media. Reactions vary from the annoyance of gamers who just wanted to watch gameplay at the event to ridicule of the performance itself from online critics.nextshark.com
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
There have been plenty of explanations in here already that I agreed with.
There is also a ton of concern trolling as well. You can’t ignore that mantra either.
molasar
Banned
It is still nothing. For the masses they just presented rendered video clips only. Where is a compelling gameplay footage?
it_wasn't_me
Banned
Oh, target trailers. Good. Now i know everything. Surely GOTY contenders
Hobbygaming
has been asked to post in 'Grounded' mode.
Hellblade 2 is still early in development according to MS
SuperLupeRap
Banned
Becaude People were making fun of that, because it was so pathetic and showed how out of touch Sony is. People were making fun of Sony.
Sony's PS5 Logo Reveal Was A Big Letdown
Sony's PlayStation 5 logo reveal forgot to bring with it any hardware details or imagery just weeks after Microsoft revealed the Xbox Series X.screenrant.com
Shhhhhh let them dream haha
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Well, E3 is coming up, so....
And I mean, seriously, Sony hasn't shown ANYTHING compelling. Like, at all. Unless you're just riveted by stylish fonts! Sheesh!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Rent. Free.
It seemed to have worked.
It seemed to have worked.
SuperLupeRap
Banned
You're crazy if you think the PlayStation brand is even close to being anything the Apple brand is.
Pallas
Member
I know there’s a lot of that, it’s unfortunately unavoidable. I’m just interested in the console and would at least know what it’s going to look like, but I think a real concern is maybe Sony was obviously blindsided bu the current Coronavirus outbreak and maybe had a presentation planned.
I give Microsoft a little credit and a lot of luck for presenting their console late last year, so they didn’t have to deal with the same issue.
I think the best way to go these days is buy both consoles, especially if you don’t desire to game on PC.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
And Godfall looked terrible. And that was actual gameplay.
Damigos
Member
The article is wrong.
The exact opposite has happened. MS didnt have a proper reveal event and the slow reveals didnt make enough of an impact.
We all talked about the new xbox, for 12 tflops etc for 2 days and thats it. Now everyone is talking about ghost of tsushima.
And Nioh 2.
And FFVII remake.
And The Last of Us 2...
...
The article is so wrong
The exact opposite has happened. MS didnt have a proper reveal event and the slow reveals didnt make enough of an impact.
We all talked about the new xbox, for 12 tflops etc for 2 days and thats it. Now everyone is talking about ghost of tsushima.
And Nioh 2.
And FFVII remake.
And The Last of Us 2...
...
The article is so wrong
Kdad
Member
SONY has been busy giving my games to play this year....
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
There's probably been 50x more posts about the new Xbox than Nioh 2, FFVII Remake, LoU 2 and GoT combined.
molasar
Banned
I do not expect Sony to show anything yet and you already know my thoughts regarding it. They only confirmed that PS5 is upcoming and they will share more information about it in the future.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
Come off it and just state the reality. You only care that your console of choice is slightly more powerful so you can feel better about your purchase. All the while ignoring the long and storied history of power not equating to console success.
The consoles are going to be more powerful than the previous generation. Fact. That is all we need to know. Does one output .4 more teraflops? Maybe, but it literally makes no difference. Do you know what does? The games. A console is nothing without the games and even a weak system can be massively successful as long as there are good games releasing on it.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And Hellblade’s first game was repetitively terrible, to the point of bored frustration. Even if I did enjoy the sound design and story overall.
But those movie games are all the rage now, eh? Even showed a music video, and somehow it’s gravy train.
Everyone can shit in their own hypocritical backyards with this silly back and forth.
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Butz
Banned
Since end of 2018 I believe? I could see it releasing by the end of 2021 so it'd still count as Y1.
GenericUser
Member
yes, xbx has sold millions because sony is silent!
Butz
Banned
Cope.
it_wasn't_me
Banned
Small team, small budget and F2P game, 4k/60 and at least is gameplay showed.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
No doubt.
I stopped playing HB after the first hour. It was easily the most overhyped piece of crap I played. I'd estimate in that hour, there was about 10 minutes of actual gameplay walking around, doing those red sign things and a couple fights.
The rest was mandatory cut scenes.
Wouldn't be as bad if I could skip the cut scenes and move on. But you couldn't.
It was a perfect game for a sub plan like GP. If I paid even $5 for it, I'd feel ripped off. It was barely a game. Watching videos later on, the rest of the game isn't much better. More cut scenes and repetitive fights against the same mob of raggy vulture men.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Screamer-RSA
Member
As a PC gamer with no horse in this race I only see MS having the balls to show what they got.
Also Polygon silence would be preferable.
Also Polygon silence would be preferable.
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it_wasn't_me
Banned
Maybe just for fun to watch in next few years
Kdad
Member
Is it balls or is it them completely giving up on their current gen and hoping you'll be interested in their next by getting out ahead of the game from a marketing standpoint. SONY has PS4s to sell, no reason to put a damper on those sales with big games coming out.. Not sure why people think MS is the one in the power position here...its SONY's market (esp outside US/UK)
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Xfans acting nervous with the recently announced RNDA 2 for both consoles and not only SeX, Sony's silence makes them even more nervous, because they don't have a grip on it and need confirmation to make their own future purchase. It's more like they are not that confident about Microsoft's output in general.
Psykodad
Banned
Coming from the same 5 people.
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Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Why the hell would we be nervous? Phil already said a while ago Series X already has RDNA2 with hardware accelerated RT. We good, fam. No need for us to be nervous.
VincentMatts
Member
The fact of the matter is this, until Sony actually announce something, Microsoft have the more powerful console. And also until then, Microsoft have a little game called Halo infinite on day one. Let me tell you something, I know exactly where my money is going on day one. And it’s not on a PlayStation5.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
LMJ
Member
Gavon West
, relax "broski" (why are you xbox loyalists so condescending? lol)It's just games after all
1. Penello may very well be a genius (he is a MS engineer I think) but That matters not, he is still a biased source by working for Microsoft instantly his values become questionable regarding other companies particularly when he has been on this very forum pushing PR in the past...
Cerny is also a brilliant man, But can you honestly say if he came out and had something negative to say about the xbox specs you would take him completely seriously?
2. Your Personal perspective matters not in this regard, this is based on sales of over all systems and games, where playstation came out on top playstation 2 Wii etc etc, You can personally think playstation games are junk between your toes it means nothing in the grand scheme of things to what the masses think.
The masses went with playstation this generation, because playstation had the games they wanted the same could be said for the switch and Nintendo because Nintendo had the games they wanted lol
Microsoft has made huge moves with the xbox this generation but the games are not what the masses want, if they were we would see the sales to back that up we're just not seeing it, With the recent acquisitions This may change time will tell...
3. You are correct, power does matter in the beginning of a new generation absolutely but what you're missing is the fact that we have not gotten anything close to 9.2 Tera flops let alone 12...
As I have mentioned before both the Pro and the X are not being used to their maximum efficiency, they're rather being used to brute force higher resolution and other effects.
If they were being programmed for with no base systems being a concern we would have already seen a massive jump from what we're seeing now look at final Fantasy 7 remake, Look at gears 5, look at ghost of Tsushima all of these games look phenomenal and that's based off the OG systems (Xbone PS4), with both the pro and the X making them look better...
9.2 Tera flops will give us Amazing looking games if for some reason that's what we end up with, the games will still look incredible, if we end up with more that... well that will give us EVEN MORE phenomenal looking games
4. Firstly, yes that is my opinion, An opinion based off of history, and Sony's actions in the past. You tell me which is more likely that a multi million dollar company is simply biding its time waiting for the proper moment to announce their new system When it's most beneficial to them, or that a multi million dollar company heard their competition has a higher TF count than they were expecting and is now running around like a chicken with its head cut off, making last minute revisions and crying like a child on a playground who just lost their favorite toy...
In regards to the logo, yeah they showed the logo they've done it in the past, they showed the playstation 3 logo back in the day they also show the playstation 4 logo and now they've shown the 5 logo I really don't see the issue here.
What I genuinely don't understand is why someone who prefers Microsoft rather than talking about all the implications and potential of the specs they've released thus far:
the complete legacy support a backwards compatibility
the 12 Tera flops and the power it shall provide
The dedicated audio hardware
The dedicated ray tracing hardware to name a few...
instead choose to harp on and on about Sony and their so called "silence" this tells me that Sony has not left gamers minds and rather is very much imbedded in there lol
molasar
Banned
What else we can expect from a fan of Halo franchise regarding consoles?
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Butz
Banned
I'm not a big Halo fan but the studios MS has and the kind of games they'll make appeal more to me than Sonys formula.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So it’s about the games then, not all the flippy floppy false ego puffing. Agreed.
molasar
Banned
And I am OK with it but this is not a surprise that a Halo fan buys Halo stuff.
Butz
Banned
It's about power as well, which is why I'll throw my outdated 2080 Ti in the trash later this year and get a 3080 Ti :^)
Maybe I'll get an XSX too just for the sake of being able to chill on my couch while playing some Forza or something. I miss those times.
VincentMatts
Member
Considering I bought two ps4s (and one at launch + a pro) and it was my primary gaming console for 3rd parties for the first half of the last generation, I’m pretty sure Sony is going to miss my money. Oh but hey keep assuming shit based on my forum icon. That’s some real deep Sherlock Holmes type shit.
Kittehkraken
Member
You mean the day one Halo Infinite we know absolutely nothing about? Microsoft has been spoon feeding Halo Fans nothing burgers since E3 2018.
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Wait?? Is this anything like when Xbox fans wanna discuss Xbox stuff in Xbox threads but Sony fans become "concerned" so they intervene?
It's just games after all
1. Penello may very well be a genius (he is a MS engineer I think) but That matters not, he is still a biased source by working for Microsoft instantly his values become questionable regarding other companies particularly when he has been on this very forum pushing PR in the past...
Cerny is also a brilliant man, But can you honestly say if he came out and had something negative to say about the xbox specs you would take him completely seriously?
2. Your Personal perspective matters not in this regard, this is based on sales of over all systems and games, where playstation came out on top playstation 2 Wii etc etc, You can personally think playstation games are junk between your toes it means nothing in the grand scheme of things to what the masses think.
The masses went with playstation this generation, because playstation had the games they wanted the same could be said for the switch and Nintendo because Nintendo had the games they wanted lol
Microsoft has made huge moves with the xbox this generation but the games are not what the masses want, if they were we would see the sales to back that up we're just not seeing it, With the recent acquisitions This may change time will tell...
3. You are correct, power does matter in the beginning of a new generation absolutely but what you're missing is the fact that we have not gotten anything close to 9.2 Tera flops let alone 12...
As I have mentioned before both the Pro and the X are not being used to their maximum efficiency, they're rather being used to brute force higher resolution and other effects.
If they were being programmed for with no base systems being a concern we would have already seen a massive jump from what we're seeing now look at final Fantasy 7 remake, Look at gears 5, look at ghost of Tsushima all of these games look phenomenal and that's based off the OG systems (Xbone PS4), with both the pro and the X making them look better...
9.2 Tera flops will give us Amazing looking games if for some reason that's what we end up with, the games will still look incredible, if we end up with more that... well that will give us EVEN MORE phenomenal looking games
4. Firstly, yes that is my opinion, An opinion based off of history, and Sony's actions in the past. You tell me which is more likely that a multi million dollar company is simply biding its time waiting for the proper moment to announce their new system When it's most beneficial to them, or that a multi million dollar company heard their competition has a higher TF count than they were expecting and is now running around like a chicken with its head cut off, making last minute revisions and crying like a child on a playground who just lost their favorite toy...
In regards to the logo, yeah they showed the logo they've done it in the past, they showed the playstation 3 logo back in the day they also show the playstation 4 logo and now they've shown the 5 logo I really don't see the issue here.
What I genuinely don't understand is why someone who prefers Microsoft rather than talking about all the implications and potential of the specs they've released thus far:
the complete legacy support a backwards compatibility
the 12 Tera flops and the power it shall provide
The dedicated audio hardware
The dedicated ray tracing hardware to name a few...
instead choose to harp on and on about Sony and their so called "silence" this tells me that Sony has not left gamers minds and rather is very much imbedded in there lol
If so, yeah. Time to get over . Lol
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You just have to see the reactions across social media. If PS5 turns out to be more powerful, then it's going to get worse.
Phunkydiabetic
Banned
It really comes down to this, I can't see the situation any other way. Sony has multiple massive exclusives still coming out, why would they take the focus off the ps4 and those titles? What does Microsoft have to worry about losing out on?
tflopsmatter
Banned
Sony has no reason to tell us the specs of the PS5 even though I wish they would. They can allow MS to say a thousand times that their console is the fastest. Then at the last minute Sony can announce a system one or two TF faster and create the largest media sensation in history. The forums will go NUTS.
molasar
Banned
First you brag about Halo Infinite at the same time having a Halo forum icon, and then you are surprised that somebody thinks of you as a Halo fan. Also it does not matter to me what you will buy. It can even be a calculator running Doom 1993.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You don’t need to explain yourself to me, I was merely having fun.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Sure, but it’s always about the games which causes you to want to invest in more power.