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Death Stranding was just an event filler game

instead of investing in creative project we had this piece of shit game that has been shown in E3s , events, tours you name it. since 2016. we made a huge deal of the Kojima thing. man this legend hideo Kojima. brings the console exclusive, Sony murdered the competition.

almost 4 years later. the game is apparently not an exclusive so if you bought a ps4 long time ago for it. well good for you now you get the shitty version of it. and oh. its only above 80 on metacritic because of no name reviewers probably fanboys or getting them good reviews to keep getting copies. nobody talked about this game more than IGN and they gave it below a 70. below a 70 is jack shit on IGN scale

congratulations Sony and Kojima found the perfect group for each other. someone that shovels cash onto Kojima's non-games. and Sony gets to have "games" aka movies in their blown up events. so we can see the same shit every year.

I never seen a trailer of a game. that many times in a row. big budget, probably why Konami stopped working with him. and then he lays a walking climbing simulator with ladders

just how beyond stupid and useless consoles are . you have a handful of games come out every 3 years exclusively for a console. you have to invest in online. system. controller games that cost more. etc. and the big deal about consoles in the past is those yearly events where you were shown new shit and thats why you kept buying it. you didn't buy a console to play some generic crap that you could play on a PC in the past. platforms were different and honestly each had a different kind of games. I just see no reason to ever buy a console anymore when with PS NOW/ XBOX Cloud. you can play virtually 100% of console games on PC. the cool exciting little things about consoles died at this point, its just a PC box with a controller. when we got a PS1/N64 it was the new cool save ability. the rumble controllers. or the joystick controller. PS2/GAMECUBE/XBOX. mastering of 3d games, intro to online play. PS3/XBOX360 mastering online play but still somewhat still a console platform

PS4/XBOX ONE. PC boxes that have like 1-2% of their games as exclusives. most games are photorealistic crap that is homogenized for the platforms. that just plays worse on some of them.

absolutely never been less excited about console gaming. its dead. if you think a game like god of war once every 2 years is good enough for you well I don't think it is. I still remember when we bought god of war on PS2 and a year later we got an even better GOW2. now a toddler is almost in school before a sequel to a game comes out. because of "cinematic experience" naughty dog is literally like 70% animators and like 5-8% gameplay designers
 
it made me sick to my stomach for years to hear kojima and sony bloviate about the greatness of their cinematic experience. Bitch a block buster movie doesn't take that long to make and its an actual movie with people in it. not a script written by some garbage hollywood reject. put a game that plays well fuck your cinematics.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
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MiguelItUp

Member
I don’t get the hate, if you don’t like console gaming or DS that’s fine not sure why your so triggered over it.
That's what I'm getting at, I don't understand at all. From another thread someone mentioned they think it's Xbox fanboys getting their rocks off and/or revenge for the Gears 5 thread? I have no clue. Fanboy nonsense in general is beyond me, let people play the games they wanna play and enjoy on the platforms of their choice. 🤷‍♂️

The bickering and negativity is pretty ridiculous, lmao.

You don't like it, not a problem, but why get toxic (especially so much so) with those looking forward to it?
 

Ribi

Member
this is why you dont get hyped over a game where they literally showed only walking for the past couple of years. Seriously people were trying to give it GOTY before the year ever started. Come on guys get in touch or should i say reconnect with reality.
 

DarkBatman

SBI’s Employee of the Year
this is why you dont get hyped over a game where they literally showed only walking for the past couple of years. Seriously people were trying to give it GOTY before the year ever started. Come on guys get in touch or should i say reconnect with reality.

While it may not be the GOTY - you don't know, I don't know, we haven't played it yet, although I already read some reviews calling it that -, 84 on Metacritic for "only walking" is pretty impressive, I'd say.
Many tend to forget that in the last couple of hours.
 

Ribi

Member
While it may not be the GOTY - you don't know, I don't know, we haven't played it yet, although I already read some reviews calling it that -, 84 on Metacritic for "only walking" is pretty impressive, I'd say.
Many tend to forget that in the last couple of hours.
you and I both know that that 84 isnt based on "walking only" there is a bias there. And from the sound of the reviews the walking is one if not the biggest issue with the game. Just so happens it takes up the vast majority of the game. So when the worst part of the game is taking up that much time you'd think the score would be below what it is.
 

DarkBatman

SBI’s Employee of the Year
you and I both know that that 84 isnt based on "walking only" there is a bias there. And from the sound of the reviews the walking is one if not the biggest issue with the game. Just so happens it takes up the vast majority of the game. So when the worst part of the game is taking up that much time you'd think the score would be below what it is.

No, I don't know that, I haven't played it yet. You neither.
So what are we talking about? Assumptions, making you sound like a sore hater, who can't accept the (large) amount of positive reviews.
I don't say you are one. But reading your post made you look like one.
 

Jtibh

Banned
instead of investing in creative project we had this piece of shit game that has been shown in E3s , events, tours you name it. since 2016. we made a huge deal of the Kojima thing. man this legend hideo Kojima. brings the console exclusive, Sony murdered the competition.

almost 4 years later. the game is apparently not an exclusive so if you bought a ps4 long time ago for it. well good for you now you get the shitty version of it. and oh. its only above 80 on metacritic because of no name reviewers probably fanboys or getting them good reviews to keep getting copies. nobody talked about this game more than IGN and they gave it below a 70. below a 70 is jack shit on IGN scale

congratulations Sony and Kojima found the perfect group for each other. someone that shovels cash onto Kojima's non-games. and Sony gets to have "games" aka movies in their blown up events. so we can see the same shit every year.

I never seen a trailer of a game. that many times in a row. big budget, probably why Konami stopped working with him. and then he lays a walking climbing simulator with ladders

just how beyond stupid and useless consoles are . you have a handful of games come out every 3 years exclusively for a console. you have to invest in online. system. controller games that cost more. etc. and the big deal about consoles in the past is those yearly events where you were shown new shit and thats why you kept buying it. you didn't buy a console to play some generic crap that you could play on a PC in the past. platforms were different and honestly each had a different kind of games. I just see no reason to ever buy a console anymore when with PS NOW/ XBOX Cloud. you can play virtually 100% of console games on PC. the cool exciting little things about consoles died at this point, its just a PC box with a controller. when we got a PS1/N64 it was the new cool save ability. the rumble controllers. or the joystick controller. PS2/GAMECUBE/XBOX. mastering of 3d games, intro to online play. PS3/XBOX360 mastering online play but still somewhat still a console platform

PS4/XBOX ONE. PC boxes that have like 1-2% of their games as exclusives. most games are photorealistic crap that is homogenized for the platforms. that just plays worse on some of them.

absolutely never been less excited about console gaming. its dead. if you think a game like god of war once every 2 years is good enough for you well I don't think it is. I still remember when we bought god of war on PS2 and a year later we got an even better GOW2. now a toddler is almost in school before a sequel to a game comes out. because of "cinematic experience" naughty dog is literally like 70% animators and like 5-8% gameplay designers
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Da-Kid

Member
Easy Allies literally called the game boring and somehow tried to spin it as a good thing..... Also said the combat was garbage but gave it an 8.0 lol.

Any game that's defined as boring is not a game that should be played.
 

DanielsM

Banned
Easy Allies literally called the game boring and somehow tried to spin it as a good thing..... Also said the combat was garbage but gave it an 8.0 lol.

Any game that's defined as boring is not a game that should be played.

Depends.

I think one of my favorite movies is boring - The Shining. Very little goes on, I can say its boring but a joy to watch. My better half has probably watched it 200+ times, yet she will say its a slow burn.

Even games like Silent Hill can be slow burns.
 
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Petrae

Member
Any game that's defined as boring is not a game that should be played.

There are people in modern gaming culture— players and “journalists”— who profess that video games don’t even have to be fun anymore, let alone be exciting. Boring and emo are signs of true art, which is what these people so desperately want video games to be.

I’ll never waste time and money on boring and/or not-fun video games and believe that this industry is sadly tilting into pretentious “loves smelling its own farts” territory.
 

Da-Kid

Member
Depends.

I think one of my favorite movies is boring - The Shining. Very little goes on, I can say its boring but a joy to watch. My better half has probably watched it 200+ times, yet she will say its a slow burn.

Even games like Silent Hill can be slow burns.
Movies can have a slow burn because there's different elements to movies where it can work. Nothing has to go on for a movie to peak interest. That can be entirely done just by characterisation, acting, and dialogue alone.

A game however is all about interactive engagement. If a game is boring that means it's not engaging which means it fails to be even a good game. You can't compare a movie to a game. There's too many factors. A game should be fun to play, not the total opposite.
 
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When Yoshida said Death Stranding was like a superior quality Netflix series..... Yeah, thats when my fears started to truly take shape..
 

nkarafo

Member
I want to live in the alternate universe where Kojima was let to make Silent Hill instead of this game.
 

Ribi

Member
No, I don't know that, I haven't played it yet. You neither.
So what are we talking about? Assumptions, making you sound like a sore hater, who can't accept the (large) amount of positive reviews.
I don't say you are one. But reading your post made you look like one.
Assumptions? More like an educated guess on reading and watching the reviews coming in? Have you even seen or read the reviews? It sounds like youre just looking at the scores and not actually reading why the score turned out the way it did. Thats what reviews are supposed to do, tell you about the game so you dont have to play it. It makes it sound like youre a fanboi here for Kojima (not saying you are) but it sounds that way.
 

nkarafo

Member
Depends.

I think one of my favorite movies is boring - The Shining. Very little goes on, I can say its boring but a joy to watch. My better half has probably watched it 200+ times, yet she will say its a slow burn.

Even games like Silent Hill can be slow burns.
Don't confuse "boring" with "slow"

You said the movie is a joy to watch. That means it wasn't boring for you.

Slow building tension is awesome.
 

DarkBatman

SBI’s Employee of the Year
Assumptions? More like an educated guess on reading and watching the reviews coming in? Have you even seen or read the reviews? It sounds like youre just looking at the scores and not actually reading why the score turned out the way it did. Thats what reviews are supposed to do, tell you about the game so you dont have to play it. It makes it sound like youre a fanboi here for Kojima (not saying you are) but it sounds that way.

Rest assured, I've seen many reviews and until now the majority was very positive. Not "masterpiece positive" but "good game positive".
And yeah, I did read the IGN one as well, followed by several others. But with many in this and others thread the IGN one seems to have been the first and last one they read.
 

DanielsM

Banned
Movies can have a slow burn because there's different elements to movies where it can work. Nothing has to go on for a movie to peak interest. That can be entirely done just by characterisation, acting, and dialogue alone.

A game however is all about interactive engagement. If a game is boring that means it's not engaging which means it fails to be even a good game. You can't compare a movie to a game. There's too many factors. A game should be fun to play, not the total opposite.

Well, there is ton more you are doing in a game vs. movie, heck I consider games like Until Dawn boring, but I actually really like it.... less interaction can mean boring to some. I find button mashers boring, yet the whole time your fingers are going crazy... still boring to me.

Nothing has to go on for a movie to peak interest.

Nothing has to really go on in a game to peak interest, fucking Minecraft is a brain numbing experience, imo.
 
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