I love this man. Talk about triggering snowflakes.
And that he has, he knew the snowflakes, "leave MS alone types" would come rushing in with their insults and vitriol.....Hardly anything substantive and factual to debate against Jim's points, but rather going straight to insults, he's a fat snob, go to the Gym, he wants clicks, he hates MS.....Anybody who says anything about MS hates MS, it's definitely snowflake country.....
As to arguing a point....
Looking back at the last few pages, I realize some people are amnesiacs when It comes to how "pay for online" came to be......The only people to blame for online pay on consoles is MS and especially it's fans. I swear MS has people trying to inject forums with one liners for marketing purposes "LIVE is the best online service", Gamepass is a gamechanger", "Sony is holding the industry back with its stance on crossplay", "Sony is anti-consumer, where is my EA access"...Yet, Nobody talks about EA Access anymore, I bet you most PS fans didn't even bat an eyelid when EA Access debuted on PS...How can I not play with my friends in Fortnite on a competing console? Sony owes us this. Many lines to try and push an MS angle, suspiciously...…..Yet LIVE was different.......It was the biggest push I've seen...
LIVE has to be one of the most marketed services through internet channels everywhere, especially by hardcore MS fans......I remember in the 360/PS3 days, there was a LIVE vs PSN thread almost every week and it was inundated with persons who swore on LIVE, making people believe PSN was the equivalent of being connected on a 28.8 baud Modem in Alaska...….MS fans went in so hard, some even said they were willing to pay more for the excellent service that LIVE was....Lines like; you get what you pay for, the two services are not even in the same stratosphere, LIVE shits all over PSN, NO one talks on PSN, I guess, so we could hear more racism and insults......but yes, people pretended that the PSN was drab shit with no functionality near LIVE...….
So here I was playing SF, Tekken, Soul Calibur Online on PSN, I was having a blast, so I was saying, but it works well, I'm getting lots of salty replies, connections are stable, not bad...….Then I bought a 360, I wanted to try this LIVE and see what all the hubbub was about? I bought SF, Tekken and Soul Calibur there, I mainly played SF on that system and apart from the 1ms deficit on the PS3 version in SF, which was the fault of Capcom and not the network, the experience in playing online was the same......So when I was on 360, I knew everybody I played was on 360 was on the same code, with the same applying to PS3...…..On the PSN, I played a bit of COD online, Battlefield, RFOM, they all run well......I run some Ninja Gaiden Sigma online, that run smoothly...So what was all the hubbub......Of course some SF games lagged, depending on your opponent and location, but there was lag on 360 too. Not saying MS didn't have some extra features, but it was on the same P2P as PSN. No dedicated servers, nothing great enough to justify paying for this over PSN. Yet LIVE fans drove that supposed gargantuan service over PSN....like it was a diamond sink vs a paper sink.....I guess trying their best to justify paying for live or defending MS. PS fans said they were satisfied with their free online, but since 360 had some momentum Xbox fans wasn't hearing any of it...…
So why didn't Sony say no to Payed online? XBOX fans declared war, said Sony had to make an investment, LIVE was like gold and PSN was like river dust......That time Sony was in financial trouble, MS was making a killing on LIVE, so many Xfans subbing to LIVE as if their lives depended on it......Remember, Live at that time only offered you online play, that's it. Yet Sony was in trouble, the whole company, PS3 launched at $600.00 trying to do the best for gamers, full backwards compatibility running back two generations, you think people would sing the praise of BC, they said get the eff outta here with that $600 foreman grill......Bluray on board, people said it was forced down their throats, but now they are the biggest proponent of UHD Bluray when it doesn't matter, because everybody is on netflix etc streaming and the like. Sony Offered the best and most varied way to connect a console, best audio, best graphics that gen, best games, best media console....
So they offered BC, two gens back PS1+PS2, Free Online (which people shitted on because LIVE), best Games, motion control games, 3D, they tried to push things forward and give gamers a great package....They got sullied online, Look at Amirox's famous post......
Yet a struggling Sony seeing that the people were not interested in BC or free online, started cutting features on the future slim consoles, like Linux, which nobody really cared for till then, but pitchforks had to be raised...Damned if you do, damned if you remove it or didn't put it in the first place. So Sony said, we need some cash, we've invested in many triple AAA titles, we're in bad shape, we're selling buildings.....Yet, we won't just charge for online, that would be too effed up, lets do something more...…..We can give them some free games and give them heavy discounts on very regular weekly sales, we'll give them some free videos and shows, avatars, early access to betas, surely we can't just ask persons to pay just for online play, even though MS was doing it all this time.....And we won't put Netflix behind a paywall, or demos or betas.....That's just outrageous....Remember when Sony gave gamers free online last gen, the competition's fans shit on it and said they wanted a paid service, even if it was the same P2P as the paid one....Sony was in a hard place for money or else they would be in further trouble, almost going bankrupt, they said well lets get on this train, if that's what gamers want, but regardless of our troubles we will still do our best to give a service with the gamers in mind......Free games, heavy discounts, no paywall etc etc etc......