The dad doesn't deserve to be screwed over because of something his immature son did. For a lot of people $8000 is no joke.
Classy move by Microsoft. Can't read the article at work but I hope they ban/wipe his Fifa/Microsoft account at least, otherwise he just got away with $8k worth of digital goods.
Pretty much.
I'm completely ok with that scenario. Maybe they can go back to trying to design games that you buy cause you want to play them cause they are fun rather than games that try to use gambling psychology to get you to spend more. I mean even in pay games with MT you can see small influences of that (GTA V online is my favorite example. You can definitely see where being designed to encourage you to spend more has its influences in it).
I don't see how this would be a bad thing.
There is nothing wrong with it except that it is not a realistic solution.
How much of their overall revenue/profits is made up from these IAP/micro transactions? Do you really think that these multi-billion dollar institutions are going to just give up a piece of the pie without a fight? A disclaimer is about the best we can hope for state-side.
Nobody deserves to be screwed out of 8000 dollars just because their son's an idiot, even if they're irresponsible. That's absolutely an abnormal amount even by microtransactions standards.
fuck fifa ffs
kill it with fire
microsoft and sony should tell EA to fuck off with that shit
"He thought it was a one-time fee for the game," Perkins said earlier this month. "He's just as sick as I am."
That doesnt address my prior post. Why is the onus on the companies to create policies that govern people from their own stupidity? You can't accidentally make these charges, there's checkpoints in place during these transactions. The 17 year bypassed those checkpoints to the tune of 8k worth of transactions. Thats the long and short of it.
You say nobody deserves to be screwed out of 8k. Except thats what MS is right now, but I guess that's ok because they're the big bad corporation, so whats 8k to them, right? And before I get labelled a corporate apologist, I dont care about any of these companies and I have more than my share of issues with many of them, including MS. But I dont agree that MS should be the loser here.
why did they get a refund?
It is right.
I do not see how on one side having someone face potential ruin compares in any way to a multi billion dollar company not getting 8k $.
But sure argue for equal punishment in all cases ignoring all circumstances.
While we're at ridiculous equivalencies everyone killing even in self defense should get life time sentences. Killing is killing.
Unless you mean limiting microtransactions to $100 per 24 hours instead of all digital that's worse than the disease. Very few people go down the microtransaction rabbithole while there will be more and more people that buy games digitally that could spend more than $100 on steam/psn/xbox marketplace etc...
why did they get a refund?
straight up fuckin lies lmao
- 17 year olds should know better
- Video games you can spend $8000 on shouldn't exist
- You should be able to turn off micro transactions at the account and game level for every service/title
- His credit card should have stopped or called to confirm the charges
Am i forgetting anything?
And yet you have them regulating gambling which is effectively how F2P games work to get money. If it is impossible to get them to regulate it like they do gambling, how did they manage to get regulations on gambling (such as making it illegal for minors)? You think the gambling industry liked them putting those regulations on them (and they aren't small companies either) and didn't fight against it as well?
Exactly, if I was that boy's father is make him get a job and work off the $8000 he carelessly spent. That way he would know how hard it is to actually earn that money.You covered them all other then kid needs his ass beatgrounded for lifea job to learn the value of money etc...
The problem is while the behavior is akin to gambling it is not gambling. Black's Law Dictionary defines gambling as a "betting or wagering". "Betting or Wagering" means the staking or risking by any person of something of value upon the outcome of a contest of others, a sporting event, or a game subject to chance, upon an agreement or understanding that the person or another person will receive something of value in the event of a certain outcome. That is not what's happening here.
IMO F2P games/IAP/micro Transactions are more akin to trading cards.
You are right it should be case by case. And the liability should be on the one at fault.....is it MS in your eyes?
The damn kid is 17 years he should already well know by now the consequences of misusing money. His father needs to give him a serious talk or else this is only going to repeat in the future
Yeah, that kid was definitely an age that he should know better.
That doesnt address my prior post. Why is the onus on the companies to create policies that govern people from their own stupidity? You can't accidentally make these charges, there's checkpoints in place during these transactions. The 17 year bypassed those checkpoints to the tune of 8k worth of transactions. Thats the long and short of it.
You say nobody deserves to be screwed out of 8k. Except thats what MS is right now, but I guess that's ok because they're the big bad corporation, so whats 8k to them, right? And before I get labelled a corporate apologist, I dont care about any of these companies and I have more than my share of issues with many of them, including MS. But I dont agree that MS should be the loser here.
You say nobody deserves to be screwed out of 8k. Except thats what MS is right now, but I guess that's ok because they're the big bad corporation, so whats 8k to them, right? And before I get labelled a corporate apologist, I dont care about any of these companies and I have more than my share of issues with many of them, including MS. But I dont agree that MS should be the loser here.
What on earth can you spend that much money on in FIFA? (I've never played, genuinely curious)
Even if they did that, it wouldn't have stopped this from happening somewhere else with this kid
And now whats to stop him from getting his own credit card when he is 18 and doing the same shit. He must have an addictive personalty if he can spend $8K on micro transactions.
You obviously didn't read the article. The father gave his son a CC card 'for emergencies'.Good question. Because he was underage? Well, FIFA can be accessed by under ages. CC's shouldn't, but he did get a hold of it. Which means the dad wasn't paying attention. A CC shouldn't be in reach of minors, unless he stole it. Which isn't MS fault but something between the parents and kids.
Meanwhile thousands of gamers are throwing hundreds of dollars into the FIFA microtransaction slot machine.
This $8,000 refund is just a band-aid slapped on for good PR.