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True Detective - McConaughey/Harrelson crime series - S2 starts June 21st
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Nice hook HBP. We cool.
I did laugh a little when the Segways appeared. It was too time-establishing for me.
The ties they wear are what stands out to me, spot on.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Time is a flat circle.
Marty of all people should know better than to be fucking a piece of ass that used to be prostitute in some backwoods bunny ranch.
Served his ass right to get cuckolded.
Plus, every has been right under his nose and he's been blind to see it. /Paraphrasing of his own words.
Yep, yep. The Segways are sign of money. You have to wonder about the donations these Church organizations get. But that's a discussion for another time.
TrumanBurbank
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Anyone have a link to the song that played at the end of episode 6?
It was to show that he was trying to be a good family man, but wound up at a bar and ended up fucking some chick.
This
Rust is a prophet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtQ_4WzTCXw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtQ_4WzTCXw
Of course he is. Even he says he won't just opt out because its his programming. A man has his needs, he's not a saint or bastion of morality. He's just really honest with himself.
BadAss2961
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Can't wait to bring my next date to my unfurnished, creepy ass apartment chock full of pictures of dead people and thorn figures everywhere.
#inrustwetrust
TrumanBurbank
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She would have screwed him even if there were dead kids bodies in the apartment.
Your best bet is to find women who are looking to get back at their husbands by sleeping with other guys. Good luck
JCreasy
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I choked on my drink when he said that. The delivery was so ruthless, it took my breath away. That shit cut like an x-acto knife.
So we finally come to the end of Act 2. That was pretty good stuff, and I love how the show continues to focus far more on the characters and who they are, rather than just the "case". In fact, almost nothing happened this week in terms of building on the case meaningfully but goddamn Rust and Marty are so compelling. I'm glad they're going to be together again for the final Act, and that last shot of the broken light at the back of Rust's truck was a pretty great idea thematically.
Sadly, Shea Whigham continues to ruin scenes for me again. It's really not his fault I think, but it's unfortunate. I can't unsee Eli. It's even worse here when he's down on his luck now and reduced to an alcoholic. The entire scene between him and Rust felt like a weird True Detective/Boardwalk Empire crossover where Rust is questioning Eli about bad things Nucky has been doing or covering up. Lol.
Another thing that's bothering me a little is that I'm starting to dislike the way that women are portrayed on the show. It's obvious they're being written as examples of the consequences of what men in authority can do to others. That's fine. But as characters it's starting to feel a little too obvious that the story is written by a guy who thinks very much like a guy and is writing a story about guys. Every notable female character on the show is either used as a form of temptation or a commentary on how bad men treat women and sometimes the price men pay when they wrong "their" women. It's one part of the hard boiled masculine narrative which I think would benefit from being toned down or balanced out in a more meaningful way.
Sadly, Shea Whigham continues to ruin scenes for me again. It's really not his fault I think, but it's unfortunate. I can't unsee Eli. It's even worse here when he's down on his luck now and reduced to an alcoholic. The entire scene between him and Rust felt like a weird True Detective/Boardwalk Empire crossover where Rust is questioning Eli about bad things Nucky has been doing or covering up. Lol.
Another thing that's bothering me a little is that I'm starting to dislike the way that women are portrayed on the show. It's obvious they're being written as examples of the consequences of what men in authority can do to others. That's fine. But as characters it's starting to feel a little too obvious that the story is written by a guy who thinks very much like a guy and is writing a story about guys. Every notable female character on the show is either used as a form of temptation or a commentary on how bad men treat women and sometimes the price men pay when they wrong "their" women. It's one part of the hard boiled masculine narrative which I think would benefit from being toned down or balanced out in a more meaningful way.
Gaf_SentMe
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I don't know about you guys, but I nearly chubbed up twice during this episode. Once when Beth was riding that lucky mofo Marty and the other time when Rust cuffed Marty's wife ass. The fucking in this show is so primal. Great episode by the way. Nice change of pace.
The show is about masculinity, thematically. It is a show about guys (and how guys treat women like shit.) The women aren't "temptation" - the scene today with the girl he knew a decade ago sort of put an exclamation mark on that. The problem is the guys, not the girls. To tone it down would be to miss the point.
Just two more.
When a character exists for no reason other than to show the bad decisions that a man can make when presented with an option to transgress, that is temptation. The problem is not with the girls or the guys. The problem to me is that it is increasingly clear that the women exists on the show only to show how bad the men can be. I know that's the point. But it's also a pretty shallow way of making that point for a show this intelligently written and with that much attention to character development.
I was wondering about that as well. Maybe it was a casserole with lays chips as a baked topping?
Looked like there was ground beef, noodle and a crunchy top.
She could've put anything in there...
Someone earlier thought that it was a video of his daughter. I thought that was a pretty good theory until I started typing this, and it makes me wonder, if true, why Rust wouldn't have contacted Marty immediately? I know they had their falling out, but I think Rust would recognize that evidence like that trumps any disagreements between them.
The thing I loved about that scene is the feeling that at any point, Rust could have completely fucked him up if he had wanted to. To me, it felt that Rust knew he kind of deserved what he had coming to him, and it almost appears that he let Marty land a few on him, and all he was trying to do was stop the fight.
Buba Big Guns
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This makes so much sense.
Rabbit Lord
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Somethings up with Maggie I think or maybe even Marty's whole family(lets not forget his father in law). If you saw the Ep 7 preview you know
Sucks that here is only two episodes to go, show is really good so far.
Rust shows Marty something he definitely does not want to see, one or both of his daughters getting raped/molested maybe?
Sucks that here is only two episodes to go, show is really good so far.
I don't think so. Remember, she said she didn't like that Marty became religious after the first time he got caught.
2 week wait ffs
What do you mean? The next episode is still next sunday.
EDIT: Showtime is taking the week off, if that's what you're thinking.
2 week wait? Next episode is March 2, which is over one week.2 week wait ffs
So we finally come to the end of Act 2. That was pretty good stuff, and I love how the show continues to focus far more on the characters and who they are, rather than just the "case". In fact, almost nothing happened this week in terms of building on the case meaningfully but goddamn Rust and Marty are so compelling. I'm glad they're going to be together again for the final Act, and that last shot of the broken light at the back of Rust's truck was a pretty great idea thematically.
Sadly, Shea Whigham continues to ruin scenes for me again. It's really not his fault I think, but it's unfortunate. I can't unsee Eli. It's even worse here when he's down on his luck now and reduced to an alcoholic. The entire scene between him and Rust felt like a weird True Detective/Boardwalk Empire crossover where Rust is questioning Eli about bad things Nucky has been doing or covering up. Lol.
Another thing that's bothering me a little is that I'm starting to dislike the way that women are portrayed on the show. It's obvious they're being written as examples of the consequences of what men in authority can do to others. That's fine. But as characters it's starting to feel a little too obvious that the story is written by a guy who thinks very much like a guy and is writing a story about guys. Every notable female character on the show is either used as a form of temptation or a commentary on how bad men treat women and sometimes the price men pay when they wrong "their" women. It's one part of the hard boiled masculine narrative which I think would benefit from being toned down or balanced out in a more meaningful way.
I got that from that from the first episode. Every female character was either a victim, murdered, raped, cheated on, abused, molested, prostitute, wife, daughter or girlfriend.
They're defined by their relation to men. But it was happening so frequently, I've come to think the writer is either completely unawares or wholly deliberate.
This episode diverged a bit though. We had a murderess mother who killed her children and an adulteress who went out to deliberately hurt her cheating husband by having sex with his partner. To be clear, the plot was instigated by them, rather than just include them.
But it's not temptation. Marty wholeheartedly does not truly give a fuck about his wife or kids other to have them as decorations around the house. (At least, in 1995-2002.) He's not being tempted, he's just deciding to say "f it, I'm tired of doing what I'm supposed to, I'm going to do what I want." Marty is a shitty person who treats women like objects. This isn't being done in a Breaking Bad/Sopranos way where it's masquerading as power fantasy/wish fulfillment to a segment of the audience. (Although, yeah, the tits are being used to keep the asses in the seats.) It's being done in a "this guy is a self-centered lecherous hypocrite way." And we spend half of or time on the show with him, forcing us to confront this behavior head-on without blinking. When you hear about abusive relationships/domestic violence, the principal character is almost always the victim. The abused party. Here, we're getting inside the head of the abuser. It's not pretty, but it's making its point loud and clear.
Great episode. I can't believe Maggie
Notice how she said
Edit: Oh and
basically forced her vagina onto him while he was drunk and then outed him. Way to really ruin everything 
It wasn't enough for her that her marriage should end; She needed to ruin him professionally as well, even if it meant taking Rust down in the process.
It wasn't enough for her that her marriage should end; She needed to ruin him professionally as well, even if it meant taking Rust down in the process.Notice how she said
that Marty had found religion? The gun he loads at the very end...maybe I was onto something with the whole "Tuttle got to him and bought his loyalty" thing.
Edit: Oh and
no Maggie boobs? What is this world coming to?
BadAss2961
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But really, Maggie's the only major female role in this series. In fact, she's the only other point of view we get outside of Rust's and Marty's. I think her character's arc was fair. Neglected wife, cheating husband, eventually had enough and hit her husband where she knew it would hurt most. Plus she had temptation of her own... Fucking Rust wasn't completely out of the blue for her. I always got the feeling she was attracted to him. Especially when she was hurt by his "it's not supposed to work" monologue at the diner -- hoping he was different. I'd even say the temptation was equal, if not stronger on her side in this thing.
All the rest of the women are just Rust's flings, victims involved in the case, and women that Marty's fucking.
BBQMan
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oh woops YAY
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I don't think its his daughter, its all too convenient and dues ex machina for true detectives.
I think its gonna just be a video of some torture/molestation of a random person that will show more than two assailants, proving not all of then died on the farm.
We've seen Marty lose himself to compassion before at the sight of torture victims I would not be surprised he would turn a TV of in disgust at the sight of any torture.
I think its gonna just be a video of some torture/molestation of a random person that will show more than two assailants, proving not all of then died on the farm.
We've seen Marty lose himself to compassion before at the sight of torture victims I would not be surprised he would turn a TV of in disgust at the sight of any torture.
Artakartel
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End scene directed by Vince Gilligan.
Artakartel
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I KNEW he was coming back since that episode. He got a wierd level of attention by Marty, plus he was sticking up for Tuttle and his task force.
So we finally come to the end of Act 2. That was pretty good stuff, and I love how the show continues to focus far more on the characters and who they are, rather than just the "case". In fact, almost nothing happened this week in terms of building on the case meaningfully but goddamn Rust and Marty are so compelling. I'm glad they're going to be together again for the final Act, and that last shot of the broken light at the back of Rust's truck was a pretty great idea thematically.
Sadly, Shea Whigham continues to ruin scenes for me again. It's really not his fault I think, but it's unfortunate. I can't unsee Eli. It's even worse here when he's down on his luck now and reduced to an alcoholic. The entire scene between him and Rust felt like a weird True Detective/Boardwalk Empire crossover where Rust is questioning Eli about bad things Nucky has been doing or covering up. Lol.
Another thing that's bothering me a little is that I'm starting to dislike the way that women are portrayed on the show. It's obvious they're being written as examples of the consequences of what men in authority can do to others. That's fine. But as characters it's starting to feel a little too obvious that the story is written by a guy who thinks very much like a guy and is writing a story about guys. Every notable female character on the show is either used as a form of temptation or a commentary on how bad men treat women and sometimes the price men pay when they wrong "their" women. It's one part of the hard boiled masculine narrative which I think would benefit from being toned down or balanced out in a more meaningful way.
These two posts one after the other crack me up.
And it may be a lucky thing I haven't seen Boardwalk Empire yet, I'm really enjoy Shea Wigham.
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