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Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition | Hype Thread | We're Really Feeling It

D.Final

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Touch fuzZy. get BizZay said:
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Smiles and Cries

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OutrageousFacts said:
The mines, Satorl Marsh, Sword Valley, the fallen arm/hand, Agniratha, prison island, bionis inside - these are all lengthy areas where nothing much happens for the story until reaching their respective end point. Instead you spend hours fighting the same monsters. And if you didn't need to grind for some of the bosses, your playstyle is probably not representative for those who don't like grinding.

I like Xenoblade 1 a lot, but saying it's not grindy is massively deceptive. It could be said, however, that the game is so good that the grind doesn't feel like one most of the time.
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Like I said what I consider a grind in this game is the Gems system.

It is an opinion not a deception if that is what you feel when you play, it is what it is to you, someone else might feel differently. Saying a JRPG does not have grind would be deceptive I did not say it had no grind I said it is not grindy.

A large game does not equal grindy, since when did having lots of large areas to explore mean nothing is happening? If grindy means you have to fight a lot then yes you are correct I guess it is grindy. I think of grindy as you reached an area where you can no longer progress without spending hours grinding your levels to a needed point to progress. A level is required to advance forward so you must go fight monsters until you can progress. When you have to do this it is not a bad thing but a very grindy game is a game that is very stingy with levels it puts a massive number of EXP requirements between levels so it feels tedious and time wasting.

A game is not a JRPG without some level of grind but the game I call grindy are those stingy games where leveling up is very slow and difficult. This game is not that at all. But I guess I play with guides anyway and I know I should seek out EXP Up Gems if I want to use my time wisely. I'm going to be trying to wear an EXP UP Gem as early as I can. I remember looking for EXP UP VI gems late game. If you pretend these don't exist or never heard of them it is not the end of the world you'll get less EXP for your time fighting but I rather get everything I can out of a fight. My playstyle is go prepared, I hoard the best items that cap my Attributes.

It would be more reasonalble to say you'll hit some very hard boss fights that you'll lose and die to often without grinding your levels. Still I think those difficult bosses require Gems more than levels.

I consider chasing down gems and resources more grindy than fighting in Xendoblade. In X2 or XCX I felt the grind more than X1. Like I said many times before it has been many years since I played X1 I could be misremembering the experience differently. I do tend to complain about grind even though I still go out and max out my levels. I like to be overpowered rather than having difficult bosses ahead of me.

More VI Gems please. I complain about Gem slots not the grind.
 
OutrageousFacts

OutrageousFacts

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Smiles and Cries said:
Like I said what I consider a grind in this game is the Gems system.

It is an opinion not a deception if that is what you feel when you play, it is what it is to you, someone else might feel differently. Saying a JRPG does not have grind would be deceptive I did not say it had no grind I said it is not grindy.

A large game does not equal grindy, since when did having lots of large areas to explore mean nothing is happening? If grindy means you have to fight a lot then yes you are correct I guess it is grindy. I think of grindy as you reached an area where you can no longer progress without spending hours grinding your levels to a needed point to progress. A level is required to advance forward so you must go fight monsters until you can progress. When you have to do this it is not a bad thing but a very grindy game is a game that is very stingy with levels it puts a massive number of EXP requirements between levels so it feels tedious and time wasting.

A game is not a JRPG without some level of grind but the game I call grindy are those stingy games where leveling up is very slow and difficult. This game is not that at all. But I guess I play with guides anyway and I know I should seek out EXP Up Gems if I want to use my time wisely. I'm going to be trying to wear an EXP UP Gem as early as I can. I remember looking for EXP UP VI gems late game. If you pretend these don't exist or never heard of them it is not the end of the world you'll get less EXP for your time fighting but I rather get everything I can out of a fight. My playstyle is go prepared, I hoard the best items that cap my Attributes.

It would be more reasonalble to say you'll hit some very hard boss fights that you'll lose and die to often without grinding your levels. Still I think those difficult bosses require Gems more than levels.

I consider chasing down gems and resources more grindy than fighting in Xendoblade. In X2 or XCX I felt the grind more than X1. Like I said many times before it has been many years since I played X1 I could be misremembering the experience differently. I do tend to complain about grind even though I still go out and max out my levels. I like to be overpowered rather than having difficult bosses ahead of me.

More VI Gems please. I complain about Gem slots not the grind.
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I apologize if my use of 'deceptive' came off as an attack. Not my intention. I just think from the perspective of someone who doesn't know the game, has no special feelings, and reaches
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Indeed, my definition of grind involves more than 'you have to level up by fighting monsters to overcome a situation'.

Being forced to fight lots of same(y) enemies for several hours at a time without any story events is a grind, too, imo. That's where the game can feel feel like a cheap mmorpg, because you just keep repeating the same and same and same battle commands, which due to the very simple combat system can get tired soon.

None of which is much of an issue if you love the game, of course! :]
 
Smiles and Cries

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OutrageousFacts said:
I apologize if my use of 'deceptive' came off as an attack. Not my intention. I just think from the perspective of someone who doesn't know the game, has no special feelings, and reaches
Agniratha
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Indeed, my definition of grind involves more than 'you have to level up by fighting monsters to overcome a situation'.

Being forced to fight lots of same(y) enemies for several hours at a time without any story events is a grind, too, imo. That's where the game can feel feel like a cheap mmorpg, because you just keep repeating the same and same and same battle commands, which due to the very simple combat system can get tired soon.

None of which is much of an issue if you love the game, of course! :]
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no need to apologize. A JRPG without a grind is not a thing I want to see so I am glad someone thinks X1 is grindy, that stuff makes it better for someone with my taste.

I think it has less to do with loving the game than it is to loving the grind. I love being OP where nothing can touch me. But I don't respect a game that does not make me work for it to become OP. Being overpowered without having to grind for it feels like I gave my money away for a freepass. It is in that way I love a grind, a grind has to reward me for my time, it has to give me power make me powerful make me badass in the end. I want something for all that work.

I love the grind in that aspect. (It reminds me of the training you see in Kung Fu movies where the character has to train hard to face the bad dude at the end)

I don't recommend anyone playing JRPGs that don't enjoy the grind. The grind and grindy just have different meaning for me. What you are referring to is what I would call The Grind. That is something I enjoy.

Grindy is such a yucky word, grindy is that stingy game that brings you to near tears and you are not so badass at the end of it just a little meh. LOL

In this case it is not the game I love so much, it is the grind.
 
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Smiles and Cries

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NOA has been slow on hype in recent months, I know we live in strange times but it has been weird without Reggie hype in Directs.
Without knowing this game is coming soon I would be looking into what my PS4 has coming.

I don't really need hype for this game, nothing will un-glue me from it once they launch (unlock my digital copy)
 
jshackles

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Smiles and Cries said:
NOA has been slow on hype in recent months, I know we live in strange times but it has been weird without Reggie hype in Directs.
Without knowing this game is coming soon I would be looking into what my PS4 has coming.

I don't really need hype for this game, nothing will un-glue me from it once they launch (unlock my digital copy)
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Same here - I finished Final Fantasy VIIR and Trials of Mana, clearing my slate for Xenoblade. Wondering what I should try to tackle in the remaining 2.5 weeks. Tentatively thinking of finishing up Dragon Quest XI S.
 
Smiles and Cries

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jshackles said:
Same here - I finished Final Fantasy VIIR and Trials of Mana, clearing my slate for Xenoblade. Wondering what I should try to tackle in the remaining 2.5 weeks. Tentatively thinking of finishing up Dragon Quest XI S.
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Good stuff

DQXIS was so good I still could go back and try to 100% it but I think I'm satisfied.
 
Smiles and Cries

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oh man I wish I could ask my old self what was my GEMs build, I want to plan my character builds early

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Gems (Japanese: ジェム, Jemu) are a type of equipment in the Xenoblade Chronicles series. In Xenoblade Chronicles, Gems provide a mechanical bonus of some sort, such as increasing Strength by 20, or resisting 50% of Spike Damage. They are activated by equipping them on Weapons or Armour which have...
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can't remember anything all I know is I want EXP UP
I hope they added new gear with much more gem slots as a bonus
 
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JORMBO

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Danjin44 said:
Now we are coming closer to release date, I'm dreading if Amazon can deliver my copy in time.
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I did Best Buy store pickup. Since it’s sold out it won’t let me change to shipping instead now. I hope the store gets it in time since I took off release day. I was thinking retail would be open here by the end of May when placing my order but we are still locked down with limited curbside pickup.
 
Smiles and Cries

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Wunray said:
I wish this game would hurry go on sale, I'm playing through the demo and its great but I paid 60 dollars already on PC can't do that again.
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Square Enix had a huge sale on eShop a month ago and DQXI S was not on sale, they really don't put the last DQ title on sale often unless a new one is being promoted.
With a 2D mode. and full orchestrated music I think they want to milk all the money they can out of this version.
 
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Saint Boot

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My Body is ready. I liked the FF7 remake, but this is going to be so much better, imo. if only because it will be one full complete story that does not need multiple parts to get where it needs to go. Big Xenofan, and I wish that they would all end up on the Switch, no matter how unrealistic that is. Everything from Gears to Saga to Chronicles X.
 
Smiles and Cries

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I wonder if I turn on the lights how many hours it would take me to look for all of my Wii U components and wires to see what still works.

People got me thirsty for XCX

look at this poor guy took a 2 year old story about an X port and made a video about it today


thirsty!

but not as thirsty of S Saint Boot wanting Gears and Saga on the Switch
 
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay

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Smiles and Cries said:
People got me thirsty for XCX

look at this poor guy took a 2 year old story about an X port and made a video about it today
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I'm thirsty for that XCX port too, but I'm not gonna boot up the wiiu cause I just played through XCX last year and we got a great Xenoblade game coming out in 17 days. Watching the video does make me wonder about how realistic that hope is. The online features and general hugeness of the game probably do make it harder to port than some other forgotten gems that get their moment to shine on the switch. The wiiu gamepad integration could pose problems too, but games get around that. He says it sold poorly on wiiu but didn't everything? I wonder how different XCX's 380,000 lifetime sales are to Wonderful 101, Tropical Freeze, Tokyo Mirage Sessions and similar titles. Maybe good sales of XCDE will make a XCX port seem like a good move.

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Touch fuzZy. get BizZay Touch fuzZy. get BizZay gorgeous picture!!
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Thanks Danjin...Want me to post the much higher resolution version? I shrunk and cropped it for optimal forum browsing.
 
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Wunray

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Touch fuzZy. get BizZay said:
I'm thirsty for that XCX port too, but I'm not gonna boot up the wiiu cause I just played through XCX last year and we got a great Xenoblade game coming out in 17 days. Watching the video does make me wonder about how realistic that hope is. The online features and general hugeness of the game probably do make it harder to port than some other forgotten gems that get their moment to shine on the switch. The wiiu gamepad integration could pose problems too, but games get around that. He says it sold poorly on wiiu but didn't everything? I wonder how different XCX's 380,000 lifetime sales are to Wonderful 101, Tropical Freeze, Tokyo Mirage Sessions and similar titles. Maybe good sales of XCDE will make a XCX port seem like a good move.



Thanks Danjin...Want me to post the much higher resolution version? I shrunk and cropped it for optimal forum browsing.
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Yes please
 
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Smiles and Cries said:
I wonder if I turn on the lights how many hours it would take me to look for all of my Wii U components and wires to see what still works.

People got me thirsty for XCX

look at this poor guy took a 2 year old story about an X port and made a video about it today


thirsty!

but not as thirsty of S Saint Boot wanting Gears and Saga on the Switch
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chronicle x is wii u game.
plz don't remaster it this soon and do a 2 !
 
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Zenaku

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martino said:
chronicle x is wii u game.
plz don't remaster it this soon and do a 2 !
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Xenoblade DE isn't being done by the main team, although hopefully they helped with the epilogue. We could see this team head over to X next while the main team works on the sequel.

I have hope.
 
Smiles and Cries

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Zenaku said:
Xenoblade DE isn't being done by the main team, although hopefully they helped with the epilogue. We could see this team head over to X next while the main team works on the sequel.

I have hope.
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practice makes perfect. Give them more work!

I wish Monolith did not have a Zelda team as bad as that sounds I love me some Breath of the Wild but I'm still jealous of the time spent
 
OutrageousFacts

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Smiles and Cries said:
practice makes perfect. Give them more work!

I wish Monolith did not have a Zelda team as bad as that sounds I love me some Breath of the Wild but I'm still jealous of the time spent
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Mind you, I wrote that article before corona hit the world, but I'm confident that Monolith Soft is more efficient than many give them credit.

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Corona might have caused delays, but I don't think supporting BotW2 impacts their other releases too much.
 
Smiles and Cries

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OutrageousFacts said:
Mind you, I wrote that article before corona hit the world, but I'm confident that Monolith Soft is more efficient than many give them credit.

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Monolith Soft Megaton 2020 – Why their New IP is Ready

Disclaimer from May 12th: This article was written before the Corona breakout. Corona might have caused delays. But let’s stay positive – and healthy. (A couple of words before I go int…
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Corona might have caused delays, but I don't think supporting BotW2 impacts their other releases too much.
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don't

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Zenaku

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Kos Mos said:
Devastated, because I still have not unlocked her yet... :(
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Going into my 3rd playthrough I still didn't have her, so I used cloud saves to save scum my cores. Ended up getting T-elos and KOS-MOS after a few tries.

Not a fan of cheating but I play enough gacha games to know I can't trust rng. Although, I have been pretty lucky with them lately...
 
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Saint Boot

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Zenaku said:
Going into my 3rd playthrough I still didn't have her, so I used cloud saves to save scum my cores. Ended up getting T-elos and KOS-MOS after a few tries.

Not a fan of cheating but I play enough gacha games to know I can't trust rng. Although, I have been pretty lucky with them lately...
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Meh. I dont' consider it cheating if it's a offline single player game. I miss the days of gameshark.
 
Zenaku

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Kos Mos said:
Meh. I dont' consider it cheating if it's a offline single player game. I miss the days of gameshark.
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Well it's one option then.

I spent hours farming rare cores and boosters with no luck, and would've carried on if I hadn't given in to temptation.
 
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