ShadowNate
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Didn't all this happen already months ago?
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Xbox Series's Retail mode no longer allowing emulators, Xbox starts banning users (15 day suspension warnings)
- Thread starter Bernoulli
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Team Andromeda
Member
Pathetic.
Team Andromeda
Member
I use Windows every day. Zero jank.
And the computer is always on. Steam up. Takes seconds to start gaming.
On Xbox I first have to go into a menu to reboot in dev mode, I clocked it when dev mode was new but can’t remember the time now, was a couple minutes, it’s not like a normal reboot.
So why even use the Xbox for development mode? Just steam up.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
the series S was perfect
you can get it very cheap used at $150 et run everything on it
systemr123
Member
It would if they ever would have left. Microsoft’s problem is that it’s still arrogant all the way from Mattrick, until now, and lets see until when.
Team Andromeda
Member
That's what I did and then I use my Series X for gaming.
GHG
Member
Fixed.
Not sure why people are faffing about with emulation on consoles when it's easily done on relatively low spec'd PC's and you're not beholden to the restrictions and rules that inevitably come with consoles.
Guilty_AI
Member
Just make a thread focusing on setting up a PC, with specifications for what you want to do with it. Leave out the Xbox-to-PC part and you'll be less likely to attract warring (though every time a PC thread pops up there are still some 'special' people who like chiming in with pointless comments)
I think you should try starting with a mid-low range PC/notebook. Use the PS5/XSX for the new games, use the PC for emulators as well as the games that don't come out for the consoles. You can familiarize yourself with gaming on pc more easily without spending too much money, nor worrying about stuff like coolers, overclocking, etc; and without having to commit to a full jump.
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systemr123
Member
YeulEmeralda
Member
Everything up to and including PS2 runs on a toaster so get a laptop, an HDMI cable and a controller. I've done it.
The whole point of PC gaming is freedom from restrictions.
GHG
Member
The mistake is that people view the console as some sort of emulation box when it's not advertised as such (nor is it the purpose of the machine).
If you want to use it for emulation then everything you've stated regarding form factor, price, etc goes out the window when they forbid the use of emulators on the machine.
So yeh, you can be cheap (that's literally the only benefit here because you can build a SFF APU PC that will perform similarly for emulation purposes and be silent if paired with the right cooling solution) but being cheap also comes with a ton of caveats and constantly changing restrictions that can ultimately result in you wasting your money entirely.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
FTFY
Schmick
Member
I've always bought cheap computer parts from eBay.
keefged4
Member
I mean, this is pretty much why I sold my series X, there's no point in having it when you have a decent PC.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Bummer. Series S was a good bang for buck emu machine. The retail mode emulators were always a gray area, at best, so it’s not a surprise they nuked them. There’s still dev mode, but that does take 2-3min to switch each way.
These days Steam Deck is my go-to for emulation.
These days Steam Deck is my go-to for emulation.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Completely disagree and always find this argument disingenuous. I have both and still play more on my console. It's simply the more convenient way to play on my couch and TV. PC stays in the office where it belongs.
GHG
Member
Speaking of being disingenuous...
Roberts
Member
Maybe Ms should have been more strict with what ends up on their store or be more hasty with deleting retail emulators when they popped up. I was initially super happy about emulators but when they started deleting them, it was clearly the matter of time when they are totally banned. It was good while it lasted but I don't understand the outrage.
go for it, i just recently did after series x started to get 30 fps only first party games.
i’m extremely happy with it.
pc experience on tv is leagues ahead of what i remember it to be from the past.
just get ready to spend some, sff+power isn’t necessarily a cheap combo
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Badlucktroll
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MikeM
Member
I sold my Series X and built a PC that is attached to my LG C1. No regrets at all.
keefged4
Member
Just because you choose not to hook your PC up to a TV for a "Couch experience" does not make the argument "disingenuous". It's easy nowadays to use a PC in a similar manner as a console. Why would I bother to have both an XSX and PC when the PC can do everything the Xbox does, but better? Not really missing out on much, if anything at all by going PC only.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Besides the fact that every major pc release in the past years have had major issues and games are scattered across multiple launchers and then there is the basic windows update headaches.
I prefer to have both since all ms first party are play anywhere I can buy once and play on both and not have to have a big pc in my family room.
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
No, but is A bad news
I liked a lot my emulation machine, and now I need to exclude it. Fucking Microsoft...
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
They’re already here. Well the ones that work for the competition.
nemiroff
Gold Member
It's rather "fucking Nintendo". What exactly is MS supposed to do here? Please indulge us.
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keefged4
Member
Fair point, However all of the series X games I had I can now play on PC without issues, this is just my personal experience though, not trying to console war or anything like that. I have a set up that allows me to use both a monitor and the living space TV, so when it comes to gaming its seamless. But I can see why this wouldn't suit some. In the context of this discussion - If you are getting an Xbox purely for emulation and playing older titles you are much, much better going down the PC route. even the Steam Deck is a better option. It's frustrating that MS are starting to ban people for retail mode emulators, but really what did people expect at the end of the day.
ToTTenTranz
Banned
I don't remember Valve banning people from steam.
Before they revoked dev mode for a short time and people were saying just use retail mode. They also removed it from the store for retail mode before but now it seems they are handing out bans for those using it. Personally I don't think it's worth all the hoops they make you jump through just to emulate some games you already could do on a cheap PC or mobile. It's clear they don't want people doing it.
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deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
If you do something good that doesn't lead to any problem, why stopping?! Wanna know what they need to do? NOTHING
If, and that a big "if", they do something like the Nintendo Switch Online with a lot of classics, I'm kinda ok. Kinda. I'm not changing my first opinion
ManaByte
Gold Member
Fuck Microsoft for not wanting to be sued by Nintendo and Sony.
nemiroff
Gold Member
Are you for real? You think it's perfectly fine to demand MS to nothing about a potential billions of dollars lawsuit? That's utterly ridiculous.
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Not this shit again. Why is it always deflection of blame even though MS themselves have said it has nothing to do with Nintendo?
Microsoft Addresses Xbox Emulator Ban, Says It's Based on 'Long-Standing Policy' - IGN
Microsoft has finally cracked down on a loophole in the Xbox Store that allowed emulators to be downloaded and used on Xbox consoles to play older games, including many unavailable on Xbox consoles. And while rumors are flying as to the impetus for the sudden change, Microsoft is pointing to a...
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Sure buddy.
Do you have your PC hooked up to your TV? I know no one that actually does this.
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GreatnessRD
Member
Wrong thread. Got dammit
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Mr Moose
Member
I do.
keefged4
Member
I have it hooked up to a monitor and the TV. I can switch between both at will.
reinking
Gold Member
I’m not sure why the defense force is out on this topic. There is a 20+ page thread here discussing this loophole and how great it was. It is well within Microsoft’s rights to close the loophole but as expected many are disappointed. If MS received the praise for being the cool kids that let this happen they deserve the complaints for taking it away. I think they can handle the criticism
GHG
Member
I do and have done for over 15 years. There are plenty of people here who do and I also personally know other people who do. I have 2 hooked up to 2 separate TV's in my home.
The desperation to push Xbox hardware is palpable, so much so that it's now being pushed for uses it wasn't even designed/intended for.
If you want to do emulation then the best option has always been (and will always be) on PC. Whether thats a full ATX build, a SFF build, a HTPC or a handheld PC and whether said PC is hooked up to a monitor or TV is up to the individual. Because that's what PC gaming is all about, flexibility and options.
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Yes? In fact it's only hooked up to the TV.
reinking
Gold Member
It’s not my main gaming rig but I’ve had a PC hooked to my main TV for over 10 years. My older TVs had a VGA input. With HDMI it is even easier/more common.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
All good things come to an end. It was good while it lasted.....
Oh well, PC and Ally it is...I never even got chance to try the Xbox series S emulation becuase I just used my PC.
Sucks for those using it though.
Oh well, PC and Ally it is...I never even got chance to try the Xbox series S emulation becuase I just used my PC.
Sucks for those using it though.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
ChorizoPicozo
Member
buy?!
