Yeah. I've being hearing ms needs to bring the big guns at e3 or else. And nothing changedThen we wait? Games take time, can't expect Xbox Game studios to bang out a bunch of 90+ metacritic darlings right out the gate with new teams/studios on the first go. Look at all the failed projects, games sony has made with their studios.
Shit takes time. So I'm willing to wait for Fable by Playground. I think the issue is XBox promoters and mouth pieces like Greenberg need to shut their mouths if they know they dont have stuff ready to show. Under Promise over deliver is still a thing. Thats why PS5 is so positive in how people talk about it.
They didn't make a ad campaign saying " power your dreams" " Most powerful console ever built". They made ads really about features that they were able to show in their games like no load times, like dual sense features in games. Their ads had to do with 3D audio, triggers, things like that.
So when they launched and had games using these to show what they were talking about, it delivered. They didn't over promise anything like in a way MS did.
Now MS because they waited late this past gen to make a big investment in the area that needed the investment the most, they now are playing catch up. And that catch up might take more than one gen to get to the level of studio Synergy Sony has with Insomniac, Santa Monic GG ect.
It was made by Asobo which isn't a part of XGS. But yeah, it is a technical marvel, but not really a "game" per se.Flight sim is first party. But I dont count that as game either
MICROSOFT Flight Simulator.Neither are first-party games though. It'll be the equivalent of Sony using Deathloop to prove how high-quality PlayStation Studios games are.
Yeah they are just a contractor but ms owning the IP makes it first partyIt was made by Asobo which isn't a part of XGS. But yeah, it is a technical marvel, but not really a "game" per se.
Cars and planes is probably my bet, I think it might reasonable to make FH5 looks extremely pretty even if it's cross-gen and also I want to hope the Flight Sim is ready as well.I think, more than the things you mentioned, MS needs to have at least 1 (ideally, 2) big graphical showcases.
I don’t ask for Xbox exclusivity (which doesn’t exist anymore anyway), but at least make them available on the literal XBOX consoles when you flash XBOX across the beginning and end of trailers. Nah, “it‘s an PC exclusive, Xbox is just a brand now!”. I’m looking at things like Age of Empire or Flight Simulator. Don‘t say ”Play Anywhere” when the “anywhere“ is just PCs
Neither are first-party games though. It'll be the equivalent of Sony using Deathloop to prove how high-quality PlayStation Studios games are.
Ok? The guy asked for Xbox IP specifically. They’re both Xbox IP.Neither are first-party games though. It'll be the equivalent of Sony using Deathloop to prove how high-quality PlayStation Studios games are.
I may have misunderstood, but I think the conversation was about the pedigree and capabilities of Microsoft's first-party studios to gauge how good their games can be in the future.Ori is Microsoft's IP.
Yeah, they're reacting to Hulst's statement.
Ok? The guy asked for Xbox IP specifically. They’re both Xbox IP.
90+ metacritic Xbox IP
And not to say ‘well what about’ but I constantly see games like Final Fantasy, Persona, Demon’s Souls & Bloodborne held up as an indicator of PS quality on here, despite them all being third party games.
I may have misunderstood, but I think the conversation was about the pedigree and capabilities of Microsoft's first-party studios to gauge how good their games can be in the future.
Ori is produced by an external studio that is no longer working with Microsoft exclusively.
On PC, was talking about Xbox exclusives...oh yea my bad I forgot, that doesn't exist anymore.
edit: and lol at the examples posted. A racing game, a flight simulator and a glorified 2d sidescrolling indie...Lol.
Not disagreeing, but it is a very partial truth. Miyazaki directed both games, and they are his children, although as you rightly point out Nippon Studio did support. I definitely classify both as purely From games, despite their PS exclusivity, although I suppose that’s just like, my opinion man.My response to the other guy related to your first point:
And as for your second, I disagree if anyone points out Persona and FF to point out PlayStation Studios' games' quality. BB and Demon's Souls could be partially true because Japan Studios also worked directly on that game. Demon's Souls Creative Director was also from Japan Studios, not Bluepoint Studios.
But having said that, PlayStation Studios' quality of games (present and future/expected) should be judged on Horizon, TLOU, God of War, Ratchet, etc. not FF, Persona, etc. That's just my opinion though.
I have no doubt that FH5 will look and play extremely well. But at this time, it is also about perception and optics for MS.Cars and planes is probably my bet, I think it might reasonable to make FH5 looks extremely pretty even if it's cross-gen and also I want to hope the Flight Sim is ready as well.
No I'm not. I read that as they are trying to get those 4 nextgen games out the door and have everyone helping get it done . But it does not address them wotking on their own IP's as wellBeing sarcastic?
and what it is? a bus?Flight sim is first party. But I dont count that as game either
I have no doubt that FH5 will look and play extremely well. But at this time, it is also about perception and optics for MS.
In my opinion, MS needs to prove that they can make great games -- on part with Sony and Nintendo -- other than Gears, Halo, and Forza. And a car racing game is one of the easiest game types to make it pretty; they don't take much resources. Besides, MS also needs to make the "world's most powerful console" slogan relevant again (notice how quite they have been with it when pre-launch we could see that everywhere). They can't do that with Forza, and MFS won't be a new game.
That's why I listed those 3 games: Everwild, Perfect Dark, and Hellblade II. Fable would also be in this list, but it's too soon for that.
My point is that they created The Initiative for Perfect Dark. That is XGS's A-team -- handpicked veteran developers to create the best possible team. They were billing it as the industry's first AAAA game. So we have the best team, full freedom, full financial and creative backing of MS, the most-powerful* console: here is what we came up with.
That'd make the difference for MS. If that game looks and feels better Ratchet & Clank does at the moment, for example, that will be a massive statement by Xbox. They need a showstopper like that this E3.
No I'm not
I may have misunderstood, but I think the conversation was about the pedigree and capabilities of Microsoft's first-party studios to gauge how good their games can be in the future.
Flight Simulator is not a Xbox IP. Only on Windows.Ok? The guy asked for Xbox IP specifically. They’re both Xbox IP.
90+ metacritic Xbox IP
And not to say ‘well what about’ but I constantly see games like Final Fantasy, Persona, Demon’s Souls & Bloodborne held up as an indicator of PS quality on here, despite them all being third party games.
Perhaps level of excitement is somehow correlated with receipts.
A simulation. Its on the nameand what it is? a bus?
is an arcade simulator at best. Flight Sim is a game . period.A simulation. Its on the name
Can we not get back into the definition of Xbox? It's too tiring.Flight Simulator is not a Xbox IP. Only on Windows.
Have you even "play it"?is an arcade simulator at best. Flight Sim is a game . period.
Can we not get back into the definition of Xbox? It's too tiring.
It's a Xbox IP not currently available on Xbox console hardware but that doesn't make it not a Xbox IP.
It's a Microsoft IP. Xbox has nothing to do with the game.Can we not get back into the definition of Xbox? It's too tiring.
It's a Xbox IP not currently available on Xbox console hardware but that doesn't make it not a Xbox IP.
Thoughts on AoE? Xbox is Microsoft's gaming division, sales of Flight Sim goes into the Xbox division.It's a Microsoft IP. Xbox has nothing to do with the game.
Sorry there is an sad Apple vs Epic joke in here but does it have a start, end and some challenges? then it's a game.Have you even "play it"?
The fact that this needs to be explained everytime is tiresome
AoE and FS existed before Xbox was a thing. If MS really counts their profits on the xbox division for whatever reasons, still doesn´t make them Xbox games.Thoughts on AoE? Xbox is Microsoft's gaming division, sales of Flight Sim goes into the Xbox division.
Yes and all of those IP's are now under Xbox. Xbox isn't the console anymore. If you want to believe it is, then go on.AoE and FS existed before Xbox was a thing. If MS really counts their profits on the xbox division for whatever reasons, still doesn´t make them Xbox games.
Xbox is only the console yet. If you want to believe that is not, then go on.Yes and all of those IP's are now under Xbox. Xbox isn't the console anymore. If you want to believe it is, then go on.
Uh....Halo Infinite.....MS Flight Simulator....are the first.....they aren't on PS or Switch. I'm talking about new games that will release on Xbox (I'm only talking consoles not PC)MS won't have any console exclusives going forward. Xbox is a platform and the games will be exclusive to those platforms or pc
I really do hope soIt's Kojima's cloud horror game.