Gamerguy84
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Yes they could put some distance between them and series s.
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Would releasing the next gen xbox 2 years earlier be a good strategy for xbox?
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Aion002
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Yes. If they make buying games on Xcloud a thing and makes the service better.
Imagine playing every next gen Xbox game on xcloud.
They could drop the Series X, sell the S for 150 usd or less and push every game with higher tech from the new console which they could charge for like 800 usd or more to make it really high end.
For sure the Series X and S owners would be pissed, but in the long run it could work... As long as Xcloud is able to work well enough.
I dunno if it's profitable, but it would sure make Gamepass a must.
Imagine playing every next gen Xbox game on xcloud.
They could drop the Series X, sell the S for 150 usd or less and push every game with higher tech from the new console which they could charge for like 800 usd or more to make it really high end.
For sure the Series X and S owners would be pissed, but in the long run it could work... As long as Xcloud is able to work well enough.
I dunno if it's profitable, but it would sure make Gamepass a must.
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StereoVsn
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People keep saying that and yet we have games on PC with significant graphics design that can scale from Steam Deck to latest and greatest 4090/Intel i9.
Most publishers already have a port for PC. What MS needs to do is drop feature parity.
Freelance Yakuza
Member
And they would have even better graphics if they did not have to run on weaker hardware.
Jinzo Prime
Member
They absolutely should! The "Xbox Series" brand is as dead as the "Wii U" and needs to go as soon as possible!
The next Xbox should have a Call of Duty special edition available day one. They need to associate COD with the Xbox brand as soon as possible, and having an exclusive branded console is a cheap way of doing so.
They need to use this to their advantage. Switching over to Windows 11 at the press of a button would give the next Xbox way more functionality than any console we have currently. Make a portable version while you at it to take on the Steam Deck as well.
The next Xbox should have a Call of Duty special edition available day one. They need to associate COD with the Xbox brand as soon as possible, and having an exclusive branded console is a cheap way of doing so.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Yep. Series S holds Series X back the way older cards are holding PC gaming back, which is really not at all.
Robb
Gold Member
Not sure how much it’d help, at least not if they keep calling it Xbox. The current hardware is fine, but they need to get some excitement around the brand.
Will be interesting to see if StarField etc. can get the ball rolling again. Not to mention CoD on GamePass alongside Xbox being in all the CoD marketing.
Will be interesting to see if StarField etc. can get the ball rolling again. Not to mention CoD on GamePass alongside Xbox being in all the CoD marketing.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Best strategy would be to hold off and release their next console after Sony does so they can outdo it in every way.
Bonfires Down
Member
It would make the most sense for them to deliver something that can match the PS5 Pro in 2024. The issue is whether they can do so at a reasonable production cost.
trent_the_gent
Banned
They should release some decent exclusives first.
Having the most powerful console doesn't matter when Nintendo is murdering everyone with ancient tablet tech by simply making better games than anyone else.
Having the most powerful console doesn't matter when Nintendo is murdering everyone with ancient tablet tech by simply making better games than anyone else.
balls of snow
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Yes yes do a Sega please. Starfield will be on playstation within a year of ms becoming a third party publisher.
StereoVsn
Member
That's immaterial and won't happen since devs will scale down.
The current situation though absolutely would allow for XSX Pro or XSX 2 games that can still run on XSX and XSS hardware as long as the devs don't have to have feature parity. BG3 co-op is a good example.
Lol. These dumb hyperbolic takes are always amusing.
DenchDeckard
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I'd prefer if they ended up releasing consoles every couple of years between each other so like 4 to 5 years between consoles each. Then I'd have an extra reason to keep buying each.
ByWatterson
Member
Hardware is irrelevant. They need to make some good games.
93xfan
Banned
Way to purposely misread and be disingenuous about Xbox as a whole- based on a single post.
93xfan
Banned
In regards to the OP, Id rather they wait and get more use out of the current system.
I don’t like the idea of Pro models this gen and beyond. These people will whine 2 that the PS5 Pro is underpowered in 2026 and they’ll whine that the PS6 is underpowered and not a big leap in 2028.
I don’t like the idea of Pro models this gen and beyond. These people will whine 2 that the PS5 Pro is underpowered in 2026 and they’ll whine that the PS6 is underpowered and not a big leap in 2028.
Syphon Filter
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xbox would do better if they stopped lame pass.
Killjoy-NL
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No, but going 3rd party would be a good alternative...
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
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No. If they're buying Activision, with this 10yr COD deal with PS, they will wait till that runs out and then launch with COD exclusive to their new platform.
They need time to fix their FP publishing issues. No amount of studio or publisher acquisitions seem to address the core systemic issues within MGS.
They need to get their house in order. Fix Halo. Renew gamer trust in their current leadership's ability to deliver with their current Series X/S platform, before worrying about next-gen.
Virtually no one outside of the most ardent Xbox fanboys will buy an Xbox next-gen if they don't provide a compelling enough reason to own an XSS/XSX by the end of this gen.
They need time to fix their FP publishing issues. No amount of studio or publisher acquisitions seem to address the core systemic issues within MGS.
They need to get their house in order. Fix Halo. Renew gamer trust in their current leadership's ability to deliver with their current Series X/S platform, before worrying about next-gen.
Virtually no one outside of the most ardent Xbox fanboys will buy an Xbox next-gen if they don't provide a compelling enough reason to own an XSS/XSX by the end of this gen.
Fredrik
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Yeah it would be a ”It’s more like a Xbox Series X1.5” scenario.
I don’t really like Pro consoles tbh, just makes the hobby more expensive, but if one does it then the other needs to do it as well. MS has planned it all extremely badly if they truly don’t have anything cooking.
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ShadowkillXNA
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Way to draw your sword and shield and jump to the defense of the trillion dollar company who happens to make your favorite plastic box of video game playing electronics.
DenchDeckard
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I just hope they take their time. I've got my pc to tide me over.
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
They need to focus on the software side. I don't know if they have this already or not, but they need the engineering of the hardware to go along with the software. First they need to figure out the software experience they want to bring, and then integrante the hardware development with it. Fuck what Sony is doing, or Nintendo. Show us why it is you want to stay in this business.
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93xfan
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How familiar are you with videogames? A lot of us just call them consoles, but it was a really good attempt to describe them.
So you think I’m defending MS and not calling into question his illogical claim that no one is interested in xbox? Or is English just not your first, or even second language?
Seems you’re both on offense, not me. Why don’t we take a break and get back to playing a plastic box of video game playing electronics.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Why so many no? Sure as hell worked for the 360.
Fredrik
Member
It released 1 year earlier, not 2, and they had to endure the ”more like Xbox 1.5” period before PS3 launched at a surprisingly high price with a too complex architecture that made Xbox 360 the preferred choice among devs.
That scenario will not happen again.
For the shorter generation to work they need 100% backwards compatibility but no demands on devs to make Series S versions if they don’t want to which result in the Baldur’s Gate 3 scenario, devs need to be able to just write ”minimum requirement: Xbox Series X Gen 2” on the box.
But do the consumers want that? Not sure.
The Fuzz damn you!
Gold Member
This will never, ever happen.
MS don’t want an open platform. They’ve been trying (very unsuccessfully) to move away from that towards a more walled garden for a while. In the console space, this is even more imperative - a Window machine would be open to jailbreaking, piracy and 3rd party app stores / home brew. None of these make money for MS, so why would they allow it? To sell consoles that cost them money? Sony tried this with Linux on the PS3 - to the surprise of everyone - and the consequences but them in the arse real hard, to the point where they ended up eating a class-action lawsuit in order to reverse course.
Plus, of course, why would they do it? No-one wants to look at Word document on the family TV, so what is the profitable use case for MS?
Jinzo Prime
Member
Firstly, this is something that I want. I want a box that can do it all, and an Xbox/Windows hybrid would be that. Secondly, it would be a unique feature that Nintendo or Sony could not copy. Xbox desperately needs to differentiate itself from its competition instead of being the 'lesser' PlayStation.
Thirdly, people don't pirate Xbox games. Look at the state of original Xbox and 360 emulation compared to GameCube or PS3 emulation. If anything, emulating games on an Xbox would be seen as a feature, look at the Steam Deck for example with marketing material including Yuzu screenshots before being removed.
The Fuzz damn you!
Gold Member
Okay, cool. It's still not gonna happen. A PC is already the "box that can do it all."
Yep. There are many features they could implement that Sony and Nintendo can't or won't. Doesn't mean they'll do them. This is one that they will never, ever do.
Lol.
What are you even trying to prove here? MS have been able to put Windows on Xbox since at least the Xbox One, and they could have released a loss-leading home PC box at just about any point in their 40+ year existence. They haven't, and they won't. You can want it all you want, that's fine, but these "arguments" are just plain idiocy.
Torrent of Pork
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I still think MS should stick to their guns marketing-wise, and release new hardware every 5 years or so under the 'Series' line. Mandate that games work on the previous iteration, allowing gamers to skip every other hardware release if they need to, and we're already there with crossgen lasting as long as it did.
As an example, when the Xbox Series (blank) comes out in '25 the Series S mandate drops, but the Series S would still obviously work for cloud. When the Series (blank) releases in '30 the Series X mandate drops.
As an example, when the Xbox Series (blank) comes out in '25 the Series S mandate drops, but the Series S would still obviously work for cloud. When the Series (blank) releases in '30 the Series X mandate drops.
cash_longfellow
Gold Member
They gotta do something, and quick……………………oh sorry, they bought my brain and are now trying to buy the video game industry.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
PS5 Pro 2024 vs XBSXX 2026?
Sounds good to me.
Sounds good to me.
BlackTron
Member
Any new hardware from MS has to be concurrent with a total change in strategy/marketing to make any difference, the same way Wii U to Switch's completely changed with the branding, image, online strategy, etc.
I know Xbox had always been seen as "Dreamcast 2" but they start to seem like Sega just for being unable to stop trying to solve a problem with more and more hardware designs. Feel kinda bad for anyone who bought a One X
I know Xbox had always been seen as "Dreamcast 2" but they start to seem like Sega just for being unable to stop trying to solve a problem with more and more hardware designs. Feel kinda bad for anyone who bought a One X
MarkMe2525
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MS should shoot for a higher price point and find a niche in the "high end" console space. $699-$799 price range. Allow it to play PC Titles on MS store. I'm really just throwing shit at the wall.
PendekarRajawali
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All xbox needs is games. High quality first party games.
skit_data
Member
Imagine buying the One X thinking
"here come the crazy ass showpiece games!"
then having to upgrade to Series X thinking
"here come the crazy ass showpiece games!"
Gets one real showpiece game in Starfield and then they start marketing another console.
No I don't think they will, but I wouldn't put it past them to do such a thing.
"here come the crazy ass showpiece games!"
then having to upgrade to Series X thinking
"here come the crazy ass showpiece games!"
Gets one real showpiece game in Starfield and then they start marketing another console.
No I don't think they will, but I wouldn't put it past them to do such a thing.
Ainem Enamas
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Gaming situations that brings happiness.
the_master
Member
If they have te hardware for that and they are far behind in market share, then it would be a chance to turn things around with a fresher start
DenchDeckard
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Launch a well designed system early but do it with big key titles ready to go. If they can get ahead of Sony by a year and launch with big AAA exclusives they should see it pay off.
Pedro Motta
Member
No, it's not. The Pro is 100% optional, and you're not locked away from new games just because it's available. Is Nvidia lacking optics when released a 4090 when I already bought a 3090Ti? NOPE.
fart town usa
Gold Member
I don't think it'd make a difference and like others say, I wouldn't be surprised if MS stopped releasing consoles all together and just made games available via the cloud or for other platforms. I don't think that's controversial either. It seems to be what they are gearing up for.
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SkylineRKR
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I wonder if MS will enter the next generation with a console. They made their games playable on nearly every device. And the Xbox sales aren't growing. They could cut all the costs that go into the creation and marketing of a system and just rake in cash with software and subscriptions. Not to mention Xcloud functions reasonably well.
The Series is objectively better than the Xbox One but this time they dropped the ball on software. They bought some major publishers and you won't see the fruits of that right away.
The Series is objectively better than the Xbox One but this time they dropped the ball on software. They bought some major publishers and you won't see the fruits of that right away.