pr0cs
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Well I was told you shouldn't be worried about that.Eight months till launch and nothing shown. I wonder what problems they are having.
Just buy their products.
Well I was told you shouldn't be worried about that.Eight months till launch and nothing shown. I wonder what problems they are having.
Last time they showed the box at E3, however their initial announcement was more convincing (it has briefs tech demos).Eight months till launch and nothing shown. I wonder what problems they are having.
DF is hardly objective, their analysis work is generally full of PR non-sense and hyperbole.MS has shown us an actual working product, has handed it over to DF for objective testing, and has explained their cooling.
Include journalists and developers into the mix as well. The amount of people that have come out to defend PS5 in reaction to actual positive Xbox news is eye opening. I have nothing against Sony, but what have they done to gain such loyalty? Better yet, what has MS done to become so hated? It feels like everything I read is sensationalist or glaringly biased.Sony is really smart, since all the damage control is done by paying customers, it's like Apple cult really.
Include journalists and developers into the mix as well. The amount of people that have come out to defend PS5 in reaction to actual positive Xbox news is eye opening. I have nothing against Sony, but what have they done to gain such loyalty? Better yet, what has MS done to become so hated? It feels like everything I read is sensationalist or glaringly biased.
As companies, I am not a fan of either. I am a huge fan of Game Pass however, and services in general, and here is where Xbox has won me over.
What hogwash how did he fail developers with the PS4 cooling and how did it affect developers? Also he didn't even work on the cooling solution he only had a given TDP and others worked on a cooling solution.Because you’re explaining the console’s capabilities and none of the performance numbers being quoted will hold without proper cooling.
If Cerny was not going to present a working box with a power cord and an on-switch, he could at least present a complete plan for one.
This is a particular issue for him as well because the cooling solution he engineered for PS4 failed. He had a second bite at the apple with Pro and failed again.
So if I were a dev I’d want more than lofty power point slides before I wrap my project plan around his unproven promises.
This and all the DirectX functions they are recreating are going to impact 3rd party game development negatively.One must be throttled in service to the other. It’s essentially a misdirection campaign at this point.
Your post history along with your obvious trolling explains the above response. Welcome to my ignore listYou're high.
Stop being facetious.Well I was told you shouldn't be worried about that.
Just buy their products.
Just buy the productStop being facetious.
The situation was the same with the PS4 and XB1. Nothing shown till E3 for either. Why was that not an issue, but all of a sudden this generation its a huge problem.
Include journalists and developers into the mix as well. The amount of people that have come out to defend PS5 in reaction to actual positive Xbox news is eye opening. I have nothing against Sony, but what have they done to gain such loyalty? Better yet, what has MS done to become so hated? It feels like everything I read is sensationalist or glaringly biased.
As companies, I am not a fan of either. I am a huge fan of Game Pass however, and services in general, and here is where Xbox has won me over.
These were my exact thoughts, also they probably are having trouble with the form factor.they are probably still trying to figure out how to cool it lol
Cool. I guess you don't need to actually address the salient points of the discussion.Just buy the product
What hogwash how did he fail developers with the PS4 cooling and how did it affect developers? Also he didn't even work on the cooling solution he only had a given TDP and others worked on a cooling solution.
He said sustained clocks and there is no reason for him to show how cooling works when he described how the system works for devs already.
With the situation right now (AND THE ECONOMY), I suspect the ps5 to be postponed to the end of 2021.
You're shifting the argument. What has this got to do with the cooling solution?Cerny could have told us that PS5’s clock speeds will vary between point X and point Y but he failed to do that didn’t he?
He only gave the top end number and a half explanation about it down clocking under certain workloads.
Well Cerny can’t possibly know the max workload of every next gen game so he cannot know how low those clocks will drop unless there is a floor beneath which the clocks cannot drop.
Is there a floor? I don’t know.You don’t know.
But that’s precisely why DF poses the question below I’m guessing so to pretend he gave a full explanation is nonsense.
You're shifting the argument. What has this got to do with the cooling solution?
Ever heard of smartshift? Constant power to the APU would not change that.
Th caps are upper limits. There are no lower limits and there would be no reason to even care. That would be on the devkits anyhow and the dev sets the performance profile on PS5 smartshift. You're making it like they pulled the wool over devs eyes.
They keep using the top clock speeds to calculate the gap.
Most aren’t reporting the speeds are variable and almost none are reporting that the CPU and GPU clocks cannot run at max speed simultaneously.
One must be throttled in service to the other. It’s essentially a misdirection campaign at this point.
I’m guessing that was the point of coming out with a half finished system with no box, no demos, no details, etc.
Doesn’t appear to be working to well however so the question is what will they try next?
Cerny could have told us that PS5’s clock speeds will vary between point X and point Y but he failed to do that didn’t he?
He only gave the top end number and a half explanation about it down clocking under certain workloads.
Well Cerny can’t possibly know the max workload of every next gen game so he cannot know how low those clocks will drop unless there is a floor beneath which the clocks cannot drop.
Is there a floor? I don’t know.You don’t know.
Your post history along with your obvious trolling explains the above response. Welcome to my ignore list
This makes sense. Sony hasn't shown the PS5 because they are shocked by the SSD that they put in the system themselves, but didn't know was good until they read posts on neogaf, which has kept them from showing the console ever since due to their shock of how good it is confirmed to be by the posts they read here.Because they're still shocked of how revolutionary (according to Gaf) the SSD is
well most people with common sense understand this panic (and virus) would have run its course by June, as every model has shown. why would they delay?