Support NeoGAF

[asdasdasdbb]

They should have gone with a little more generic SSD in the beginning. But they didn't so it's on them.

Isn't the problem the number of memory chips because of the goofy bus? The S isn't so bad since it's 5 chips but the X would be 16, unless they are somehow doing one portion of it 64-bit wide per chip, which I don't think GDDR supports...

 

[Alebrije]

"Buy now Pay later
Interest free finance"

Those are terms never expect to hear to get a console, crazy times.

 

[deriks]

Steam Machine really changed the industry

 

[kaizenkko]

Sony have to just do nothing with the PS5 pricing for as long as they can, and Xbox will be dead.

Xbox is already dead. After all, Phil was doing one thing right: giving up on consoles. At this point, they'd be better off stopping console production altogether. They don't sell enough units to justify the investment, and there's nothing Microsoft can realistically do to change that.

 

[prinz_valium]

At this point in time, who would even buy an xbox and why? Buy a switch 2 if you already have a playstation. It will probably be supported for a long time.

People who want to play GTA VI and don't have a PS5 or Xbox Series S.

But the potential audience gets smaller.
Multi console ownership (especially between PS and Xbox) will plummet with next gen. Only very few will buy two 1k+ machines

 

[RPS37]

Next gen def isn't starting tilll 2028.

 

[outsida]

This has been a really shitty generation.

 

[mckmas8808]

I see the PS5 DE for $599

Series S is $100 cheaper.

The 1TB Series S is $599, too.

 

[Bojji]

I wonder what the change of the climate could be attributed to? Hmmmm.......

Personally I stopped giving a shit what is causing it, maybe it's the human activity but there is exactly 0% chance that humans will stop doing what they are doing. Climate change is real and we need to adapt to it.

Recent spike is visible but there were times when Europe was warmer.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Xbox is already dead. After all, Phil was doing one thing right: giving up on consoles. At this point, they'd be better off stopping console production altogether. They don't sell enough units to justify the investment, and there's nothing Microsoft can realistically do to change that.

Takes likes this are always so stupid. There are too many current people with big libraries still buying software and paying for subscriptions to kill it yet.

 

[MCH2024]

? Where did I say Xbox prices wouldn't increase?

I am referring to Microsoft saying console memory and storage are expected to double from now to fall 2027. AKA everything you said about pricing = BS.

Dread it, run from it, bozo commodity maxing is over yet the same.

 

[twilo99]

Some people are winning

 

[SEGAvangelist]

The 1TB Series S is $599, too.

Yeah, duh. The 512GB will be $499, though.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

my theory is these prices will get so stupid to the point most people sell thinking they in profit and then will have to sub for a cloud compute solution, this is all planned.

generation of renters and wage slaves. to stream the big city simulator (GTA) where like feels better than reality.

 

[Zathalus]

#sonytoo. they just had a price increase so they're probably safe for six months.

Yes? I didn't say it's going to happen tomorrow, but Xbox raised prices last year and Sony inevitably followed. Switch 2 as well.

None of the console manufacturers can negotiate cheap prices any more because memory manufacturers look at them, laugh, and say take it or leave it.

This goes for PC components as well. Nothing to console war over here, laughing at X raising prices is silly because Y is going to do the exact fucking same.

 

[Steve Holt]

#literallyeveryone

Yep,

I'm sure there will be a dedicated Sony thread when those price increases are announced.

 

[kaizenkko]

Takes likes this are always so stupid. There are too many current people with big libraries still buying software and paying for subscriptions to kill it yet.

Not enough to justify the investment. The longer Microsoft keeps Xbox "alive", the more money it loses for nothing.

 

[Brucey]

Just saw Apple increased their prices too. If even Apple are being forced, you can bet Sony are a couple days/weeks away from doing it too. Everything is cooked even more than before.

Sony just increased their prices in March 2026 with $100 bump on digital and disc drive models and $150 on Pro.

After a previous $50 bump on all models in August 2025. I'd be surprised if they adjust again prior to GTA 6 in November but anything is possible.

 

[mckmas8808]

Very likely (and Switch 2 also)

I find the Switch 2 going up in price twice in 2026 hard to believe.

Yeah, duh. The 512GB will be $499, though.

True, but comparing a like for like in SSD space is important now.

 

[Darsxx82]

Its always been like that. Xbox LONG ago pulled out of other markets...which is probably a big reason their growth has been so damn bad this gen.

Well, it's differentb on this. Yes, Xbox has always been a brand that primarily focused on the tastes and interests of US and Anglo-Saxon users, but when it came to support, logistics, and having consoles available in other markets, it always more than delivered.

The current situation has a lot to do, firstly, with the sky-high production and manufacturing costs, which continue to rise. Secondly, with the effects of the Bond/Spencer strategy of "you don't need an Xbox console", console is not the center and reducing Xbox console production to cut costs.
Destining the consoles that are produced for the strongest markets with the longest tradition for the brand makes sense, as at current prices, these are the only places where even minimal demand would exist.

Clearly, Xbox considers XS gen amortized and isn't willing to lose $300+ per console sold. The solution? Produce fewer consoles, Up price and avoid losses... which is precisely the idea (on a different scale, of course) that Sony has hinted it will do with the PS5: manufacture fewer, avoid price reductions, and perhaps raise the price.

The industry is screwed. Fucking AI

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Not enough to justify the investment. The longer Microsoft keeps Xbox "alive", the more money it loses for nothing.

Xbox as a platform isn't going anywhere yet. Offloading people to PC seems to be the intent with Helix, though. Just killing consoles altogether right away is retarded, though.

True, but comparing a like for like in SSD space is important now.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

Very likely (and Switch 2 also)

 

[MCH2024]

JFC get Jensen's dick off your mouth

93% marketshare it's only natural that GeForce has fans.

Reminder that Microsoft is a tier 1 memory customer and memory / storage prices for them are expected to double from now till 2027 fall.

How do you think a much smaller fry like sony (so small volume no point in mentioning the tier) is going to manage it? Why would the cartel allow the PS6 to exist in high quantity and/or below 999$? In 2027 no less.

 

[Deerock71]

Asha outdoing Phil in record time

She's just cleaning up Phil's mess.

Phil's tenure:

 

[mckmas8808]

Xbox as a platform isn't going anywhere yet. Offloading people to PC seems to be the intent with Helix, though. Just killing consoles altogether right away is retarded, though.

Have you been paying attention to SSD prices? That's not moving the goal post. That's reality!

 

[jm89]

 

[SEGAvangelist]

93% marketshare it's only natural that GeForce has fans.

Reminder that Microsoft is a tier 1 memory customer and memory / storage prices for them are expected to double from now till 2027 fall.

How do you think a much smaller fry like sony (so small volume no point in mentioning the tier) is going to manage it? Why would the cartel allow the PS6 to exist in high quantity and/or below 999$? In 2027 no less.

For PS6, Sony is probably in trouble. I assume they worked out longer storage contracts than Microsoft, though, since their consoles have sold better. I guess we'll find out soon enough, though.

Have you been paying attention to SSD prices? That's not moving the goal post. That's reality!

You pretended that the 512GB option didn't exist. Don't play dumb.

 

[rodrigolfp]

If you have a ps5 pro, give it a kiss

Soon will be $1000+

 

[Z O N E]

Sony just increased their prices in March 2026 with $100 bump on digital and disc drive models and $150 on Pro.

After a previous $50 bump on all models in August 2025. I'd be surprised if they adjust again prior to GTA 6 in November but anything is possible.

True, however now that Apple has increased their price, that can only mean 1 thing that they longer have supply at the nice price as before, so we're going to have all these companies fighting for RAM and it'll just increase prices even more because everyone wants some. We as consumers are screwed even more than before.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Soon will be $1000+

$699 is feeling SOOOOOOO good.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

MLID...

 

[mckmas8808]

You pretended that the 512GB option didn't exist. Don't play dumb.

I didn't. I knew it existed. There's no reason for you to act as if the Xbox Series S 1TB model doesn't exist. What happens if GTA6 is over 250 GBs in size?

 

[Zacfoldor]

Is that even a standard SSD? Da fuq?

Reminiscent of their memory expansion cards.

It's shit like this is the reason you don't buy a prebuilt.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Soon will be $1000+

I'm happy with my $500 trade-in deal in November 2024

Thanks

 

[DKPOWPOW]

Well, at least maybe we will start seeing games optimized better. All this tech was not being used right.

This current gen might stick around for a long time. Maybe we will see a greater focus on efficiency and maxing out what is available.

 

[mckmas8808]

Now this is interesting. Not sure if it's true though.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

I didn't. I knew it existed. There's no reason for you to act as if the Xbox Series S 1TB model doesn't exist. What happens if GTA6 is over 250 GBs in size?

OK. You're just not worth responding to now. LOL

 

[LostDonkey]

"Buy now Pay later
Interest free finance"

Those are terms never expect to hear to get a console, crazy times.

I used the All Access method to get my series X. Think it was like £28 a month for 24 months, included the console, and game pass ultimate. I'd definitely do it again for the new one.

 

[yogaflame]

We will have a longer Ps5 generation and thats not an issue to me.

 

[SpokkX]

So series with 512GB (370 usable) is more or less the same cost as Series X 1TB - from 5 years ago



Seriously - who will buy this? What is dead may never die i guess

 

[SEGAvangelist]

So series with 512GB (370 usable) is more or less the same cost as Series X 1TB - from 5 years ago



Seriously - who will buy this? What is dead may never die i guess

People looking for the cheapest way to play GTA6? I doubt MS moves many consoles starting in Aug., and I'm sure that's part of the pricing choice, TBH.

 

[meech]

Bad news for now, but eventually a bunch of factories will be built in China producing a ridiculous amout of ram modules for cheap, but it will take time for that to happen.

So next 2 - 3 yrs will be pretty bad, but eventually it will reverse course for the better. It will be interesting to see which tech companies survives at that point.

Would not help much with tariffs

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Would not help much with tariffs

Oh... I long for the days of tariffs.

 

[MCH2024]

For PS6, Sony is probably in trouble. I assume they worked out longer storage contracts than Microsoft, though, since their consoles have sold better. I guess we'll find out soon enough, though.

There is no such thing as long storage contracts today. Even Apple is getting quarterly agreements.

Guys you DONT GET IT, the party is over. And Sony is below Microsoft in the memory pecking order.

 

[yogaflame]

Just bring back Hard disk drive and floppy disk. Altman is the new Soros, sabotager of economy around the world.

 

[demigod]

Didn't Sony just increased the prices like 3 months ago? they were the first ones if I remember correctly. I really doubt we are going to get another increase this year.
Microsoft just held off as much as they could

Are you serious right now. This is the THIRD time xbox has increased their prices.

 

[intheinbetween]

Steam machine looks like good value right now lol.

Genuinely asking, isn't a Series X more powerful?

 

[Fake]

Nintendo Switch 2 for $500 or Xbox Series S for $499?

Decisions...

 

[HYDE]

R.I.P In Peace Macroslop.

 

[yogaflame]

Next gen def isn't starting tilll 2028.

Might be even 2029.