why don’t you both go make games and I give a review?
This is a thread about Elden Ring vs Ubisoft type games. Not sure why you feel so persecuted.I said fans. It's funny seeing many Xbox fans show up in a thread. These are the same guys who ask you to leave a thread if you're critical of an Xbox game. lol
For this kind of games smooth fps is must(30 or 60 fps) and they need to correct that. Several times I died to bosses or mobs because that last second dodge or parry what I need to execute perfectly when fighting are disrupted by bad frame passings.The review score thing is outside my wheelhouse because I don't give any weight whatsoever to reviews. Game wasn't even on my radar until the day it released, got it to play coop with my buddy.
As for the performance issue. If that's all PC, I'm clueless on that too. I played Demon's Souls/Dark Souls on PS3 and they were fine for me. I played Bloodborne on PS4 and it was fine too. My eyes aren't attuned to locked 60fps and I honestly don't really care if a game fluctuates. I'm playing ER on a base PS4 and it's fine. I haven't come across any game breaking issues and the only time I see slowdown is when there is a specific type of enemy in the distance that does cartwheels, it's actually more funny than anything.
That's not me giving the game a pass, it's me saying I'm ignorant to whatever benefits a locked framerate would give because I've never had issues with an unstable framerate. I just feel like people are nit picking in a way, like really, the FPS occasionally dipping on PS3 or base PS4 is going to render the game unplayable? No.
I've even said some of the praise this game is getting is pretty overblown but at the end of the day, I cannot deny how much fun it is and it's 100% absorbed me. It's seriously one of the best games I've ever played and outside of PC performance issues, I just don't think any of the other complaints hold water. The game is a blast.
I don’t know about PC but I’m playing on PS5 and it runs pretty decent, not flawless but much better than Bloodborne and Sekiro on PS4.
It's running fine for me on PC. Slight fps drop now and again but smooth mostly. Performance is the thing that most haters seem to be latching on to with this game since they have nothing else, but it's way over exaggerated.They haven't patched shit, the console versions (and the PC version from what I hear) still run like garbage. What are you talking about?
But sure, losing progress is even worse. Both issues are unacceptable.
It's not.It's running fine for me on PC. Slight fps drop now and again but smooth mostly. Performance is the thing that most haters seem to be latching on to with this game since they have nothing else, but it's way over exaggerated.
It's just funny how members of XBoxGAF are now being critical of open-world designs.This is a thread about Elden Ring vs Ubisoft type games. Not sure why you feel so persecuted.
It's running fine for me on PC. Slight fps drop now and again but smooth mostly. Performance is the thing that most haters seem to be latching on to with this game since they have nothing else, but it's way over exaggerated.
Ubisoft games have been a meme for 5+ years now. It's not a new thing.It's just funny how members of XBoxGAF are now being critical of open-world designs.
Halo Infinite was released last year and any time someone was critical of the game, XboxGAF was accusing them of being salty and angry about Halo Infinite's success.
Now I keep seeing the same people roaming Horizon related threads and acting like one of the worst games out there. These points were barely brought up when Ghost of Tsushima, Assassins Creed, and Spider-Man was released within the past several years.
Where was this during the review thread?Ubisoft games have been a meme for 5+ years now. It's not a new thing.
You can beat er as a wretch dude, you already have multiple videos of people fucking up some bosses with a gstring and a wood mace, does it mean that everything you find in er is optional\useless??I mean, I've ignored most weapons, traps, Aloy advice on what to do and just shot the shit out of the Dinos and won every time. The systems they've built up, while cool, all seem optional. Note that I'm only 30 or so hours in so they could ramp up the scenarios or difficulty soon.
I like open world games!
Horizon Forbidden West is a great game. It perfected the Ubi-formular and is a blast. I mean, it has robot dinosaurs.
It is somehow unfair to release such a good game and have Elden Ring on your heels. But it is what it is, Elden Ring is a different beast.
It´s what I wanted before I knew I wanted it.
I`m sure I have to check out Demon Souls but right now I`m struggling to get job, family and Elden Ring in my short 24 hour day.This was pretty much my reaction. I did not think I would be shelving Horizon for Elden Ring but here we are. It actually makes me want to go and try the Dark Souls games.
It's unprofessional.So for you developers are sort of divinity without human feelings?
Notice how you went from saying that Aloy tells you what to do every single step of the way and now it's, "for everything you need to do."
It's a lie. The most basic hints she will give you is that you need to find out how to release something or that you need to get high enough to reach a certain option. She will often talk if you discovered or see an objective such as a door, relic, key, or crate.
I might be.Why should I read your posts? You might be fake.
pc is fine brah...4 patches i think already. lol, consoles.They haven't patched shit, the console versions (and the PC version from what I hear) still run like garbage. What are you talking about?
But sure, losing progress is even worse. Both issues are unacceptable.
There you go Ubi.....problems solved
BOTW. And stop moving goalposts.What game has more to inspire other developers? HFW or ER.
I’m not saying the issues weren’t there, but I think the review score is making it more of an issue than it would normally be. I’ve played games with worse performance for sure.I don't think it's exaggerated at all. The performance is absolutely pathetic and unacceptable given how the game looks (on a technical level - artistically it's good obviously).
BotW was years ago. It inspired in it's time. there is no question about that. it moved the bar. After that, what game moved the bar further? HFW or ER?BOTW. And stop moving goalposts.
BOTW is still influencing games, and it influenced ER.BotW was years ago. It inspired in it's time. there is no question about that. it moved the bar. After that, what game moved the bar further? HFW or ER?
You mean a quest that actually forces you to think and explore, to discover the next piece of the puzzle?The guerrilla dev aint wrong the quest design is shit. You literally talk to an NPC then hope to randomly stumble apon them in another area, theyre also completely missable.
Say what you want about HFW but it is clearly a labor of love from the devs. I just finished it and you can see the passion they put into it.
BOTW is still influencing games
Shit, shit design.
And they wonder why Elden Ring gets better reviews.
Turn off the Hud and quest tracker options.The game points out every good spot to go to on the map, it tells you via GPS exactly where to go, Aloy tells you exactly what you need to do in any given situation, etc, etc. The game never lets you fail, it wants you to see the story to the end.
What a shock the YouTuber with the worst takes on PC hardware also has shit takes on games.
Dark Souls already did this. It's not a small franchise and i bet it's more successful than Horizon.I'm hoping the sales of elden will be a wakeup call that even casual gamers prefer the botw/elden experience.
Lore in Souls games shits on vast majority Western AAA games, including Horizon. Or you think 'dino robots' and 'advanced civilization adversaries' with obligatory 'malicious AI' is a good story? Lol no. It's AAA typical Hollywood cookie-cutter entertainment.Story, side quest lore, graphics, sound, particle effects, character models and acting are far, far, way far more superior in HFW, so in this regard, HFW.
It's not a financial decision but a conceptual one - wanting the players to see the end and 'not miss on the content'. If it was what you described this can be easily solved by what - cannot believe I am using this example - Forza Horizon did (where the games proposes you to increase some difficulty settings if you come first on a consistent basis).All AAA western sudios hand hold. It's embarassing but I guess considering the money it takes to make these games, they are risk averse and as such treat gamers like babies.
I see this recommendation for many games.Turn off the Hud and quest tracker options.
Glad you took the L.K, I'm done
Souls games have trash and cryptic lore that no one but dying hard fanboys care about. Whenever I research it I always find crap edgy and boring.Lore in Souls games shits on vast majority Western AAA games, including Horizon. Or you think 'dino robots' and 'advanced civilization adversaries' with obligatory 'malicious AI' is a good story? Lol no. It's AAA typical Hollywood cookie-cutter entertainment.
As for the BotW formula - considering Zelda was probably influenced by Soulsborne sense of discovery - who is copying whom?
It's not a financial decision but a conceptual one - wanting the players to see the end and 'not miss on the content'. If it was what you described this can be easily solved by what - cannot believe I am using this example - Forza Horizon did (where the games proposes you to increase some difficulty settings if you come first on a consistent basis).
You start with no map markers, journal, log, etc. However maybe based on pre-determined triggers you will get a pop-up:
"Hey, are you lost by any chance or would you like more guidance? Check these options to make experience more streamlined".
From doesn't even give you that option, but people don't expect that from From games. But the other games will NEVER approach it from the other side I described, it's always everything ON by default.