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The Official Halo 3 Thread
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GhaleonEB said:
Sorry Ghal. I should have known better to place the spawn points on the floor.
I'll look to updating the crypt canvas at some point in time as I realized that the objects are still largely in the way even though I stacked them against the wall.I finally found some spare time last night to try and make a map I've been wanting to do for a while now and realize that I pretty much suck at Forge and am already down to $75 in budget just laying down the basic geometry of what I'm after. :lol
Does anyone have any tips on how to make large flat floor areas in Forge using the least amount of objects? I'm thinking of merging the Y intersection tubes but wasn't quite sure if there was an easier way.
Edit: Spell check...
Nah, don't worry about it. It was my (unforced) error. Rebuilding is going pretty quick, so far at least. I got the top level of the red base done in just over an hour last night.FourDoor said:Sorry Ghal. I should have known better to place the spawn points on the floor.
The time consuming parts of my map are the top levels, since I have to do lots and lots of precise stacking to build them. The chandelier - I liked it so it's coming back - and the central platform are several double blocks high. Which means I need to build a perfectly lined up column of every double block. Building that and the central platforms took me three hours last time, though part of that was laying it all out on the ground to test before I built it up. That's the only part that will be a slog. The rest, I think, will go fairly quickly.
To avoid issues with the default objects, I'm not using them on any areas where I am merging objects.
I use a mix of double wide blocks, "block, huge" (1/2 as tall but just as wide and long) and double walls. All three of those cover a 2x4 section of grid, and there's at least 30 of each.FourDoor said:
The Librarian
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The multitiered forgehub level looks grand.
i feel like tubes are a fine alternate route to a base but i just don't think they work well as the main component. i forget which map it was but i played a map consisting mostly tubes with 2 bases and it just didn't work because everyone just camped and threw grenades.Sai-kun said:
GM Bullfrog
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Dax01 said:
I am very interested to hear how it plays. I think pulling of a multi-tiered environment that plays effectively will be very hard to accomplish.
vhfive said:
Yep, just imagine Orbital ... but even more cramped.
GM Bullfrog
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Grimm Fandango
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alisdair said:
I've had ideas like this. Kinda like outrunning turrets spanning all levels with linking teleporters.
A few people will spawn on a track while others spawn near turrets. They will always be separated. The runners have to make it to the sky bubble to win and the turret guys will try to stop them.
Kinda like
sixthsubset
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Grimm Fandango said:I've had ideas like this. Kinda like outrunning turrets spanning all levels with linking teleporters.
A few people will spawn on a track while others spawn near turrets. They will always be separated. The runners have to make it to the sky bubble to win and the turret guys will try to stop them.
Kinda like
maybe with lasers or rockets, too? (depending how far away the shooters are from the runners. or do i not understand your idea?
basically im imagining a couple of guys on a couple platforms (some that they can teleport between to get a different angle) with turrets/lasers/rockets, and somewhere below is the track, or maze, where there are places of cover and after them a open areas where they can be killed. (maybe some fusion coils in there too) the gametype is vip escort and the people in the maze are running around going to the destinations, either working as team or against eachother, trying to avoid getting killed by the shooters.
reminds me of some warcraft 3 custom maps i played once, except the hazards were triggers on the map.
sounds like an amazing idea to me, but alot of things do and then they arent later
GhaleonEB said:
Ahhh ok, good tips. I'll use the "block huge" to fill in some of the floor gaps I was running into.
Forge is pretty fun but at the same time very frustrating. I have a tendancy to over rotate the blocks and I end up with pieces not lined up. I need to figure out how to line things up using guide blocks but I need to figure out how to line up the guide blocks first. :lol
Hopefully the map comes out decent that I won't be ashamed to post it here for feedback.
Grimm Fandango
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sixthsubset said:maybe with lasers or rockets, too? (depending how far away the shooters are from the runners. or do i not understand your idea?
basically im imagining a couple of guys on a couple platforms (some that they can teleport between to get a different angle) with turrets/lasers/rockets, and somewhere below is the track, or maze, where there are places of cover and after them a open areas where they can be killed. (maybe some fusion coils in there too) the gametype is vip escort and the people in the maze are running around going to the destinations, either working as team or against eachother, trying to avoid getting killed by the shooters.
reminds me of some warcraft 3 custom maps i played once, except the hazards were triggers on the map.
sounds like an amazing idea to me, but alot of things do and then they arent later
Yeah just heavy weapons in general. Maybe give the runners things like overshields and bubble shields.
That's the last thing anyone should be discouraged from doing. For most it's their first time really creating a level and we shouldn't expect greatness all the time. Constructive criticism (e.g. Vh's look at Gemenie) is what forgers should expect, anyone shitting on another person's effort deserves to be stabbed in the dickhole.FourDoor said:
backflip10019
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Can anybody tell me why the Bungie MM system has such a hard time with parties of 3? It's ridiculous how often I've been split up lately. Just add one person to each team, not that fucking hard...
The Librarian
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I saw the words "AotCR" and that got me thinking: what do people think of a map consisting of the Ziggurat from that level? Sure some modifications will have to be made, but I think it could work as a Zombie at the very least.
Can anyone else think of any campaign situations/areas that could make for great MM maps?
Can anyone else think of any campaign situations/areas that could make for great MM maps?
Domino Theory
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Captain Blood said:
BWAHA :lol
Digital Limit
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backflip10019 said:
Splitting up parties almost guarantees a ruined match. The smaller group will almost always resign themselves to fucking with their team as to benefit the larger party, effectively unbalancing the match and inspiring betrayals. I think I always prefer longer wait times relative to getting stuck playing against friends, or better yet against my own team as is often the case.
Bungle needs to fix that shit.
backflip10019
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Agreed. Plus it sucks playing against your friends that are better than youDigital Limit said:
ie Bladed, but not by that much... 
Yup, whenever we get split up like that we just find the quickest way to end the game.Digital Limit said:
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Heh - just to toss in a counterexample...Digital Limit said:
This weekend, four of us jumped into the Team Mythic list - and weren't paying close enough attention when we'd been stuck with just two extras after a while. We got split, two and two, with one random on each team. To make matters worse, we had two good people and two crappy people, and the split put each of those pairs on opposite teams.
In the pregame lobby, one of our party said "Applegate is gonna LOVE me by the end of this game." (Applegate was the third person on our team - my friend was saying he was going to spend all of his time targeting the poor guy.)
I took advantage of his honorable intentions by killing him as often as I possibly could, while he did his best to wipe Applegate off the map. We all had a blast.
After the game was over, Applegate partied up with us, and proceeded to play with us for the rest of the night.
(That said, getting split up usually SUCKS, and I hate going into matchmaking with three people, because we ALWAYS get split up.)
just a few i can think ofDax01 said:
the lowest room on The Silent Cartographer
the Hangar in Keyes - you would have to shorten the hallways that go up to the second and third levels
first courtyard on Outskirts
Seraph Starfighter hangar on The Arbiter
big flood fight room, or cable room on Oracle
bridge structure on Delta Halo, but with symmetrical buildings on each side of the bridge
central structure on Delta Halo ("They're all pouring out of the middle!" area)
gondola platform at the beginning of Regret, but with symmetrical buildings
under-water area on Regret (with the giant hologram) where you fight the Hunters
boss-battle room on Regret
human and covie gondolas on Quarantine Zone, side by side so you can jump across
Gravemind ... to many areas to mention but the bridge-type structures could be done, or the prison, or the Arbiter (Breakin' Benjamin) chamber...
the last area of High Charity (reminds me of Midship), although no one would recognize it
Tartarus battle area of The Great Journey (hmmmmm...)
the dam on Sierra 117
anyone else want to continue with H3?
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Getting the first block down is the most crucial part of doing a level section. I can spend 10+ minutes working on getting one put down just perfectly - so I can see the grid outline around all four sides - and then start slapping guide blocks up against that and building out really fast.FourDoor said:
I haven't seen anyone really be a dick here about other people's maps, which is partly why I enjoy posting stuff I'm working on. I'm *not* a good designer, but I still enjoy making stuff and I'm learning a tremendous amount about map design as I do so. If this was some kind of superiority contest I don't think I'd participate. (Still build of course - just not share.)
BladedExpert
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backflip10019 said:Agreed. Plus it sucks playing against your friends that are better than youie Bladed, but not by that much...
It's even worse when its Grifball and your friend is across the pond
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PedroLumpy
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Tashi0106 said:
Is he moving faster because of that goofy weapon/flag switching?
BladedExpert
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Tashi0106 said:
Nicely done indeed!
xxjuicesxx
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Tashi0106 said:
Thats not a flag cap, THIS is a flag cap!
Also glad to see it works I had no such luck with that thing on Vista64x. One of the first things I've had Vista compatibility problems with. (Anyone know a cap card that works with Vista? and is ridiculously awesome? (HD) will spend tons of money)
Digital Limit
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PedroLumpy said:
I wonder how hard that is to do on Bumper Jumper relative to default. I've recently switched over and haven't really tried it.
Captain Blood
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Trasher said:
Except for when you back stab me because I am holding a hammer.....then I am coming for you
sixthsubset
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Digital Limit said:
its not too difficult
the problem is in order to pick the flag back up you need to hit b, so you have to take your thumb off the control stick, but it's not really that big of a deal
BladedExpert
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Digital Limit said:
Its super easy on BJ to "juggle" the objective. I go Left Trigger, B, LT, B, LT, B.....easy life!
Y works instead of LT too but means taking a thumb off the right stick twice instead of once.
NOKYARD said:
There was a period early in Desolation's life where we didn't know "where" it was going to be. I had once pitched Desolation as being a space like this, with a large central cable tether going off into stormy, cloudy skies. This was before Chris Wood created the jungle concept piece that inevitably drove the direction of Desolation into being moody greens and blues.
I still have the concept I did for that somewhere. I forget where I put it.
CrazedArabMan
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BladedExpert said:
I'm a default kind of guy and my RB is sorta broke, you can press down on one side and not the other, so flag juggling doesn't work out that well, so I have to run it the old fashion way.
Yeah, usually the long tosses don't even work for me. I must look like a complete idiot when I'm tossing the thing, running by the flag, and then having to turn around to go back and pick it up. :lolTashi0106 said:
I wish they could have found a way to eliminate this exploit from the game entirely.
backflip10019
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I feel that long tosses are the way to go all the time. For me, it's just easier to control and you don't have as big a chance of fucking the run up. But what do I know? I'm just a pro flag runner...Tashi0106 said:
And for BJ, I just use B, Y, B, Y, etc. Works like a charm.
Stormtrooper30
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Trasher said:
It was sort of a larger Warlock. I thought it was great for Team BRs, but playing with 5v5 is a lot better than playing 4v4 on that map. The extra player makes the map seem a bit less big and more competitive.
Shishka said:
If you find it, is it at all possible for you to post it? I would like to see how it could have been in a more... desolate setting.
your original idea would have made more sense - i liked playing on Desolation, but the space's original function was not readily apparent in the designShishka said:
i still remember Cody's original response to that segment (and mentioned it in the commentary) "Louis Wu can fly a Banshee like nobody's business"EazyB said:
we had originally planned on having 2 other 'guest' runners (Ducain and Frankie, i think?) but Wu was the only one who ended up completing a segment
Self Induced
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Hmmm... is this campaign-specific? Or should I ask? I know a few people here who's Warthog driving skills are certainly campaign-specificNOKYARD said:
Holy shit, that sounds pretty awesome. I'd like to see the concept for that if you could find it. There's still a chance for that locale being used in one of the remaining three mythic maps, right?Shishka said:
I can just picture an exploding bomb in an assault gametype blowing up the tether at the end of the round, plummeting the whole level to the gas giant below.
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