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The Official Halo 3 Thread
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While I don't hate Relic, they initially called it a spiritual successor to Death Island, which along with Sidewinder, ties for my all-time favorite map. Needless to say, I was pretty disappointed with the utter lack of vertical gameplay. Still, it's a pretty good map in its own right.Dax01 said:
xxjuicesxx
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GhaleonEB said:
Only via Flamethrower, ala Missing In Action 2: The Beginning.
Mr Vociferous
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Everyone's made some good points that I hadn't seriously considered.
For the most part, I like the idea for players to have a genuine risk/reward situation created by a specific gameplay element in the environment. I think an energy bridge over a chasm and controlled by a switch, not only does this well, but is inherently Halo for a variety of reasons.
I guess with the geometry on the platform the way it is in Halo 2's Relic, we have a hard time thinking about a Warthog being able to turn about and go the opposite direction if they wanted to take the longer, but less risky route. If the lip of the relic was a tad larger, perhaps a turn-about of sorts could be there for spinning a Warthog around to go in the opposite direction easily and maybe if there was a klaxon (like in Containment) which went off indicating a few second period of time before the bridge was going to collapse that would better facilitate that decision.
Other than moving the defenders away from the bridge switch a tad to prevent overt camping, I think the idea of having a switch as the key to an entire strategy is important to the overall concept. Maybe if the switch was in a more neutral location it would work on a differently shaped map. In a Relic remake, the switch would have to be defender-focused because of the layout of the flag. If the flag was recessed in the defender's base (as in most maps), yeah, absolutely, the switch could be more neutral...on Relic, it would have to be near the defensive teams spawn.
Obviously I'm using Relic as an example here (I too dig "flag inching" on most maps). It'd be easier to build a map which was energy bridge-centric from the ground up, but that being said, it would be harder to explain to everyone how and why it might work without having something tangible, like an existing map.
For the most part, I like the idea for players to have a genuine risk/reward situation created by a specific gameplay element in the environment. I think an energy bridge over a chasm and controlled by a switch, not only does this well, but is inherently Halo for a variety of reasons.
I guess with the geometry on the platform the way it is in Halo 2's Relic, we have a hard time thinking about a Warthog being able to turn about and go the opposite direction if they wanted to take the longer, but less risky route. If the lip of the relic was a tad larger, perhaps a turn-about of sorts could be there for spinning a Warthog around to go in the opposite direction easily and maybe if there was a klaxon (like in Containment) which went off indicating a few second period of time before the bridge was going to collapse that would better facilitate that decision.
Other than moving the defenders away from the bridge switch a tad to prevent overt camping, I think the idea of having a switch as the key to an entire strategy is important to the overall concept. Maybe if the switch was in a more neutral location it would work on a differently shaped map. In a Relic remake, the switch would have to be defender-focused because of the layout of the flag. If the flag was recessed in the defender's base (as in most maps), yeah, absolutely, the switch could be more neutral...on Relic, it would have to be near the defensive teams spawn.
Obviously I'm using Relic as an example here (I too dig "flag inching" on most maps). It'd be easier to build a map which was energy bridge-centric from the ground up, but that being said, it would be harder to explain to everyone how and why it might work without having something tangible, like an existing map.
I remember you joined us in Halo 2 for Team Snipers. Players would go behind the broken down ship at the offensive base and sit slightly behind the top point.Ramirez said:
I loved that map for Team Snipers, aside from spawning and getting shot in my face. :lol
More maps also need Covenant Towers, which is near the Beam Rifle spawn.
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I want Gemini to be remade more so than Relic, though.
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Yea, most of my hate for Relic & Headlong stem from my time in Team Snipers, it was just so easy to make the maps seem broken playing Snipers, or hell, the sniper in general could make most maps broken under certain circumstances. People flying a Banshee to the top of Headlong & Water Works with the sniper was so frustrating.
Actually, they do. On Last Resort, if you unlock the gate, you can drive the warthog through there and tear a team up. Or use other vehicles to do said thing. High Ground is the perfect example of how to center a map around a toggled object. The bridge really doesn't change a whole lot. The quickest and easiest way to do it is to still ramp the warthog off the spire. That's the way the overall map was designed.xxjuicesxx said:
The Lamonster
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So what's the latest? Are we getting Cold Storage for free on Bungie Day?
If not, what are we getting on Bungie Day?
If not, what are we getting on Bungie Day?
The Lamonster
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Agreed. That was one of the first maps I got out of.Chinner said:
The invisible staircase is surreal and amazing.
The Lamonster
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So if not for Bungie Day, when are we getting Cold Storage? Have there been any new details on new maps in the last few weeks?
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My 7-year-old brother told me it was called "The Stairway to Heaven." He showed it to me one time and it was pretty cool.The Lamonster said:
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I remember in 2004 Marty had this huge blog post about how George W. Bush is a great man and we should all vote for him.kylej said:
My idol and musical inspiriation was forever tainted. My perception of him has never been the same.
I mean who still liked Bush in 2004? Oh wait, tons of Americans still liked Bush in 2004. Shit.
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Lamonster, that's like a death sentence for an already on-the-edge thread.
Captain Blood
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Dax01 said:
Gemini may be the worst map every to see a Spartan or an Elite.
Edit: Is Trasher dead or are the rumors True that he will be attending PAX with us?
xxjuicesxx
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The coolest thing in Burial Mounds was to smash a guy near the plasma pistol/ghost rock and he would like fly up and get all blown up into the sky...
First time I saw that I was like woh.
First time I saw that I was like woh.
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Wow, haha. Yeah, the first time I saw that, my jaw dropped. It was unreal.xxjuicesxx said:
I think it would be fun to have a completely wacky map. One that's not constrained by fitting it neatly into the Halo universe. The environment doesn't have to be believable but simply set up for maximum playability and fun.
I shall see make some concept screens once I get home
I shall see make some concept screens once I get home
Forgot to mention I finally finished the campaign. The warthog run needed more checkpoints, seriously :/
Also, 4 Halo Wars gamepro screens have been released in glorious HD!
Also, 4 Halo Wars gamepro screens have been released in glorious HD!
The Librarian
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I am playing Halo CE right now, and I would have to say the best cutscene in the entire game would have to be the one in 343 Guilty Spark in which we see what happened to Captain Keyes' mission to retrieve the "cache of covenant weapons" through Private Jenkin's helmet video recordings.
xxjuicesxx
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I've just been playing through Sierra 117 and Crows Nest on easy to get my kill count up and those two levels are fun.
At one point a group of those bugger flying things come flying past you trying to escape the nest and you can just stick one and all of them die including the grunts on the ground. I must have killed 20 enemies just with one stick.
At one point a group of those bugger flying things come flying past you trying to escape the nest and you can just stick one and all of them die including the grunts on the ground. I must have killed 20 enemies just with one stick.
xxjuicesxx
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The Librarian
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About 140 million kills to go, there is still a chance we can make it, though the odds aren't good.
Not sure why I just now realized this - from this week's Update:
Their independence wasn't announced until October 31. While we were staring at new wallpaper and gamerpics last year, Bungie was celebrating their Independence from Microsoft. So perfect that they made it happen on 7/7.
Which makes this year the first anniversary of course.
Their independence wasn't announced until October 31. While we were staring at new wallpaper and gamerpics last year, Bungie was celebrating their Independence from Microsoft. So perfect that they made it happen on 7/7.
Which makes this year the first anniversary of course.
The Librarian
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BELIEVEHootie said:
xxjuicesxx
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It's not unless all these people I see in these playlists get off MM and get some campaign going.
I expect the biggest pushes to be in the next few days though. I set a 14,000 kill goal for my contribution.
I expect the biggest pushes to be in the next few days though. I set a 14,000 kill goal for my contribution.
Yeah, I remember reading that and thinking that 7/7/07 seemed like a much earlier date than when I remembered hearing they became independent. Should've clicked because they didn't announce it until after the release of Halo 3.GhaleonEB said:
If Dax grinds and we get to 7b by the end of Bungie day then Dax gets your recon.GhaleonEB said:
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